International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[San Marino]

Dear God. Do you read what you write? Z is bit of a knob, for sure. But it certainly isn't his fault that civilians are being killed by missiles from Russia. Missiles from that massive knob, and then our own fucking knob in the USA that could have made it harder to kill said civilians.

You're a bloody knob too for insinuating that this civilian death is all Ukraine's fault.

Well, Russia did not start this conflict. NATO movement eastward did. What would happen if Canada and Mexico were to join the Warsaw Pact and place soviet missiles next to the US border? Just look at what happened to Cuba. Why can't Cuba work with the USSR and put Russian nuclear ICBMs in its island? It is a sovereign country like Ukraine. NATO can move next to Russia, but Russia can't move next to Europe? Why is that? Why the double standard?

 

[SandisLL]

Recent news about not sharing intelligence anymore affecting himars it seems



Poland probably having regrets a bit since they bought a lot of this stuff

There, yes, they might not provide sattelite imagines and maybe to switch off access to military grade GPS till some extent.

With older 165 km range missile , this stuff with 560-570 kg warhead with cluster ammo: U.S absolutely is incapable to prevent to use this. There is inertial guidance, 0 usage of GPS, and there not likely are some wundersecurity in order not to allow launch, enter coordinates etc.

Also these oldest obsolete variants of 227 mm missiles does have unguided stuff, almost like Uragan missile...

These with Inertial guidance assisted by GPS : if they will recombine chain, might be used with inertial only.

Ofc Poland does regrets a lot, for example from 520 launchers ordered they had till today only 20 supplied.
South Korea quickly delivered 90 launchers.

And ofc now does looks that we can't trust that if we will have shit they will even deliver missiles for these..this reality.
SK and Israel is question, if you will have war, will they supply stuff for launchers or no.

There are cheaper alternatives, China, India etc.
Ofc there too supplies are under question, if you will have war.
At least cheaper and maybe might be possible to negotiate to purchase production licenses for some simple models.

 

[SandisLL]

Poland does have also local Grad type MRLS, missiles range 20-40 km. 122 mm Grad type stuff.
They does produce this locally full cycle production. Launchers, missiles for them. Ofc they ASAP needs to place a lot of orders for them....immediately...

 

[SandisLL]

Well, Russia did not start this conflict. NATO movement eastward did. What would happen if Canada and Mexico were to join the Warsaw Pact and place soviet missiles next to the US border? Just look at what happened to Cuba. Why can't Cuba work with the USSR and put Russian nuclear ICBMs in its island? It is a sovereign country like Ukraine. NATO can move next to Russia, but Russia can't move next to Europe? Why is that? Why the double standard?

Well good trolling comrade.
Lavrov office mouthpeace.

We do know that it is coz they are thinking that Ukraine is their property.

Calm down here.
I had posted long ago that part of ukr will be under russsia and another part will be in debts and dreams till next war. I had posted this years ago.

Comrade, better post in open text that you do support Russia, do support Empire..

Without these mainstream excuses.

In old time ppl were simple and more open.
Now in mass media era there ofc endless parasites might earn for a living in puffy cubicles and theoretize simple plain things in order to earn for a living♡.

 

[SandisLL]

Ukraine does have neighbors like Lukashenko, Fico and Orban. There all is clear.

Now first talks about peace in Ukraine were between U.S and Russia. Without Ukraine.
Why they does need if Ukr is meal on the table.
Simple life.
Doesn't makes sense who will rule Ukraine, they will sooner or later sign stuff U.S and Russia will negotiate about. Likes or no.

They are dreaming that Europe will pay their debts and rush to invest billions.
They will see real hell exactly after war.
Oligarchs will earn, debts will increase etc. Will be for casual ppl.

 

[Cartiac]

Coming to a close and Ukraine will not be the winner. It will lose the eastern part of the country to Russia -- 20%. Maybe up to 30% by the time it is all said and done. Poked the bear over NATO membership and things did not go well.

Little guy didn't just poke the bear to start this, he spit in the face of the top lion and his cub while they were trying to save his country.

Looks like Zelensky may have finally sobered up, but still no apology and still thinks he is in a position to dictate how this goes. It is pretty safe to say Trump will not just forget or excuse that unbelievable level of disrespect and very likely Zelensky will not be a part of Ukraine's future however this ends.

 

[Rod1]

When did Zelensky abandon Ukraine?

For the US abandoning Ukraine

 

[calavera2]

Coming to a close and Ukraine will not be the winner. It will lose the eastern part of the country to Russia -- 20%. Maybe up to 30% by the time it is all said and done. Poked the bear over NATO membership and things did not go well.

Hasn't gone well for Russia either...and its still possible for it to go much worse for them...we'll see how this shakes out..

 

[SoSo]

Well, Russia did not start this conflict. NATO movement eastward did. What would happen if Canada and Mexico were to join the Warsaw Pact and place soviet missiles next to the US border? Just look at what happened to Cuba. Why can't Cuba work with the USSR and put Russian nuclear ICBMs in its island? It is a sovereign country like Ukraine. NATO can move next to Russia, but Russia can't move next to Europe? Why is that? Why the double standard?

Um. A not so small area of Russia is not just next to Europe. It is a part of Europe. Before Russian incursion in Ukraine (and Finland and Sweden join Nato) - Estonia, Latvia, Norway, Poland and Lithuania (both of those last two kind of) share a border with Russia. With Norway being a founding member! And Turkey isn't that far away!

Shit, it takes an ICBM 30 minutes to hit Russia from the USA for crying out loud. A trident missile from a sub, much much less.

Ukraine (although I'm sure they'd like to) weren't ever going to be a part of Nato.

I know you know all of this, and I'm just the latest of many that have reminded you of these facts time and time again. So why do you keep parroting the same tired lines? It really is pathetic. At least come up with something a 5 year old couldn't debunk and stick to that. The "NATO on Russia's doorstep schtick" is so tired it really doesn't help your case for the very occasional times your say something pertinent or germane.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

It appears UKR are still taking more territory in Povkrovsk, Russian meatwave attacks have slowed and supplies have not been enough to cover their loses....hopefully this trend can continue...who would have thought crutch brigades wouldnt cut the mustard.

 

[PEB]

F up Clinton.

 

[Badr Hari]

Toretsk situation as of the end of the day on March 6, 2025 according to Rybar (Russia):

More and more alarming reports continue to come from the direction related to false reports on the situation. During the week, we already gave our vision of the previously developed situation, but time goes by and in conditions of extremely high intensity of military operations in urban conditions, the state of affairs and the balance of forces, as a rule, do not remain static for long.

Thus, against the backdrop of the success of Ukrainian special forces, periodically dropping into the city, the enemy felt impunity and permissiveness. Filled with confidence in their own strength, the Armed Forces of Ukraine continued to increase the contingent both in the city itself and in its environs. According to information from the ground, a significant part of the urban development remains in the gray zone, which has become a battlefield for small groups of infantry from both sides.

More about the situation in the Toretsk direction:

Most of the settlement of Krymskoye is currently in the control zone of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Ukrainian formations are not only trying to break through from there deep into Toretsk itself, but are also making regular attempts to dislodge Russian troops from the positions they have occupied near the Toretskaya mine.

To the west, probably about half of the Fomikha microdistrict is under enemy control. Moreover, Ukrainian formations quite freely reach the Avangard stadium and its environs, where they are discovered from time to time, blocked and destroyed along with the multi-story buildings they have occupied.

The most noticeable changes in control zones are observed in the Zabalka microdistrict, where footage appeared on Monday, described as an unsuccessful counterattack by Ukrainian formations. In reality, the situation is somewhat different: as sources from the field reported, the movement of the Ukrainian Armed Forces captured on the footage is nothing more than a rotation. The enemy is relatively calmly driving here from the neighboring Shcherbinovka, a considerable part of which, as it turned out, is also not under the control of Russian troops.

 

[SandisLL]

EU meeting looked nice etc but not good for zelesnky.

At first they were concerned about possible huge refugees influx from Ukraine again and that this will cost them a lot of taxpayers money.....
Then...next question how to ensure EU countries security and invest in weapons and ammo .. for EU countries ( read europe first approach in reality but between lines ofc ).

Ukraine does have a lot of different debts etc.

Then, they ofc are supporting Ukraine and later will decide how much and what stuff and when they will send to Ukr....in reality it doesn't looks good for Ukr at all.Sadly.

Countries on individual basis: Netherlands looks that had promised maybe Ukr will get 3.8b € ...with mentioning that this willbbe for 2026th not this year.

Later will see.

BTW if they will have more refugees from Ukr, they will be more generous due to fear to get even more refugees.....

 

[Strychnine]

 

[Strychnine]

Russian soldiers tortured???!?!?

By Russian police?!?!?!

 

[Strychnine]

Someone needs to tell Putin that this isn't the age of Calvary and Cannon anymore.

 

[Strychnine]

 

[curryjunkie]

Little guy didn't just poke the bear to start this, he spit in the face of the top lion and his cub while they were trying to save his country.

 

[Strychnine]

An NK soldier is probably better off in a NK gulag than on the frontlines of Ukraine.

 

[Osculater]

Someone needs to tell Putin that this isn't the age of Calvary and Cannon anymore.

WTF, literally WW1 tactics