International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[USA!USA!]

It's a shame that the west has been meddling in Ukraine for the last 10-15 years. This invasion would have never happened.

Never needed to happen.

 

[Copper Burner]

Never needed to happen.

If Texas seceded, i am sure America would let Russia build up their military in Texas. There would be no problem with that. Russia could build biolabs in Texas too. If Russia supported a violent coup so that a Russian friendly president was in Texas instead of a US friendly one that would be fine too.

Do you lack empathy or basic understanding? Why is it OK for us to do these kinds of things to Russia? I don't know if there is a better definition of direct provocation. But it's an "unprovoked" invasion.

 

[USA!USA!]

If Texas seceded, i am sure America would let Russia build up their military in Texas. There would be no problem with that. Russia could build biolabs in Texas too. If Russia supported a violent coup so that a Russian friendly president was in Texas instead of a US friendly one that would be fine too.

Do you lack empathy or basic understanding? Why is it OK for us to do these kinds of things to Russia? I don't know if there is a better definition of direct provocation. But it's an "unprovoked" invasion.

lol at asking if I lack empathy when I am saying I want people to stop dying - you truly are insane.

 

[aries]

It's a shame that the west has been meddling in Ukraine for the last 10-15 years. This invasion would have never happened.

Putin would have always invaded even if the West had nothing to do with Ukraine politics because they always wanted to join the EU. Putin could never allow a very similar next-door neighbour to experience an economic revolution similar to Poland because every day Russians would be staring hard in the face what they are missing. This has nothing to do with NATO, but everything to do with Ukraine wanting to be closer to Europe economically and by extension politically.

 

[Rational Poster]

If Texas seceded, i am sure America would let Russia build up their military in Texas. There would be no problem with that. Russia could build biolabs in Texas too. If Russia supported a violent coup so that a Russian friendly president was in Texas instead of a US friendly one that would be fine too.

Do you lack empathy or basic understanding? Why is it OK for us to do these kinds of things to Russia? I don't know if there is a better definition of direct provocation. But it's an "unprovoked" invasion.

America didn't build a single base in Ukraine then or now. They didn't even start receiving Western military aid until after Russia's first failed invasion in 2014 and even then the majority of it was non lethal military aid.

They didn't start receiving heavy and lethal military equipment until after the second invasion.

This is literally Russian bullshit you're spreading and the analogy makes no sense.

Putin invaded because the separatist movement started by Russia in 2014 failed and the conflict had ceased by 2022.

 

[Copper Burner]

lol at asking if I lack empathy when I am saying I want people to stop dying - you truly are insane.

You act as if you are the only one who wants people to stop dying.

Lol at you completely ignoring what I posted.

Don't bother responding to my posts any longer you thoughtless moron.

 

[Copper Burner]

Putin would have always invaded even if the West had nothing to do with Ukraine politics because they always wanted to join the EU. Putin could never allow a very similar next-door neighbour to experience an economic revolution similar to Poland because every day Russians would be staring hard in the face what they are missing. This has nothing to do with NATO, but everything to do with Ukraine wanting to be closer to Europe economically and by extension politically.

EU and Nato want Ukraine, not the other way around. You are a victim of propaganda. Only thing EU would do is saturate Ukraines market and take advantage of them.

 

[USA!USA!]

You act as if you are the only one who wants people to stop dying.

Lol at you completely ignoring what I posted.

Don't bother responding to my posts any longer you thoughtless moron.

You seem perfectly fine with the hundreds of thousands of casualties on both sides. All of it was unneeded. Russia was not in imminent danger. You know this. Why don’t you just block me then since you can’t handle the truth LOL

 

[SandisLL]

Landing ship: most likely it was 6 drones hit and ship is DONE ...
Russia had used this to supply Crimea with weapons and ammo...

 

[Copper Burner]

You seem perfectly fine with the hundreds of thousands of casualties on both sides. All of it was unneeded. Russia was not in imminent danger. You know this. Why don’t you just block me then since you can’t handle the truth LOL

You are unable to look at the conflict from a neutral perspective.

You also ignore the west's hostile foreign policy in countries like Iraq, afghanistan, Libya, Syria and on and on. You think this time is different. You're not thinking with a clear head.

 

[USA!USA!]

You are unable to look at the conflict from a neutral perspective.

You also ignore the west's hostile foreign policy in countries like Iraq, afghanistan, Libya, Syria and on and on. You think this time is different. You're not thinking with a clear head.

Just because I comment on one thing doesn't mean I ignore another. We are talking about Russia and Ukraine.

I think it is very neutral to believe both sides shouldn't be taking hundreds of thousands of casualties. Would you rather I say I hope Ukraine murders all of those invading bastards?

 

[AWilder]

I'm baffled how Putin is still able to get normal Russians to enlist. Are they that propagandized that they have no idea?

I mean there are many stories of soldiers not even getting paid.

When the option is join for a contract or refuse, go to jail for 8 years and get forced into conscrpition anyways...

 

[AWilder]

 

[Rod1]

If Texas seceded, i am sure America would let Russia build up their military in Texas. There would be no problem with that. Russia could build biolabs in Texas too. If Russia supported a violent coup so that a Russian friendly president was in Texas instead of a US friendly one that would be fine too.

Ukraine isn't Texas, its a sovereign country.

 

[Rod1]

Putin would have always invaded even if the West had nothing to do with Ukraine politics because they always wanted to join the EU. Putin could never allow a very similar next-door neighbour to experience an economic revolution similar to Poland because every day Russians would be staring hard in the face what they are missing. This has nothing to do with NATO, but everything to do with Ukraine wanting to be closer to Europe economically and by extension politically.

An American, a Frenchman and a Russian found an antique bottle on a beach and took out the stopper. A genie came out and said, "I'm so grateful to you for releasing me that I will grant you each a wish!" The American wished for a big mansion on the coast of California, with cars, beautiful women and all the money he could ever want. Poof! He had it. The Frenchman wished for the same thing, but on the French Riviera. It was immediately granted. Then it was the Russian's turn. "My neighbor has a goat, and I don't have one," he said. "Kill my neighbor's goat".

Russians just can't accept the fact that the people they used to look down upon them are now better than them, they are mad the Baltics and Poland now have higher standards of living, Ukraine if it joined the EU and followed the Finland and Sweden neutrality model, they would not be a threat to Russia but would have a higher standard of living than Russia in a matter of one generation.

And this just breaks the Russian mind of "I don't care about misery as long as other are more miserable than me".

 

[SandisLL]

unfortunately does looks like late stages of Bakhmut in Avdiivka.
A lot of signs shows that most likely general Zelensky wants to keep Avdiivka as long as it is possible at any cost despite claims about lack of howitzers and mortars ammo and huge russian superiority in drone warfare and jammers.
Therefore more soldiers should be pushed into meat grinder for political reasons from both sides...
Wildlife is very active: fox, wolves, homeless dogs, rats, crows etc....these does have a lot of meat to consume.......it is real life.......

 

[SandisLL]

Claims about ukraine as future threat for russia are designed for alcoholics and degenerates.
Doesn't matter had been Ukr in NATO and EU or no. Who will attack large country with more than 10x superiority in tanks forces, aviation and SAM systems?
Will you run to fight 1 vs 10 males on the street ?

 

[SandisLL]

BTW there is huge risk that next beuty will be Moldova.
This also does warrants opportunity to increase EU filling with refugees.....without direct war...
" separatists " in Transistria does have. filled weapons warehouses and IF they had opted to build tunnels and bunkers networks then HAMAS if compare with them will look like kindergarden because they had 30 years and area with low salaries and high unemployment + a lot of skilled tradesmans awailable.....

Moldova simply can't kick them out.

Also in Moldova salaries are low, unemployment % high therefore to hire informators, provocators, traitors, hooligans and demonstrants and even diversants might be cheap business......

Russia wants to keep Moldova from joining EU ....therefore war in Moldova is good instrument to prevent this ....

 

[Strychnine]

Alexei Navalny has died in a Russian prison.


"LONDON (Reuters) - Alexei Navalny, reported to have died on Friday by Russia's prison service, was the fiercest domestic opponent of Vladimir Putin, whom he accused of trying to kill him and of having him jailed on bogus charges and deprived of medical care. He was 47."

MSN

 

[Cole train]

Struggle for robotyne coming up?