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International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V13

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For example the same Austria is talking nice talks while they always were against EU expansion.
Okey, they at least didn't had blocked weapons transit unlike Orban but their elite not likely cares will Ukraine tomorrow be under Zimbabwe, Russia, U.S or China. It is reality.

They at least are with brains in finances for long term and unlike Orban didn't had slowed down EU financial assistance to Ukr ....and for pragmatic reason.... they does know that if Ukraine will go 404 ... then they will have a lot more refugees. This reality.
Already had been confirmed with Serbian case.
Only when they had enough refugeees they ....woked up and literally begged U.S, U.K and U.N & NATO to end war in former Yugoslavia.

Westerners should forget to think that lithuanians will be next kurds No2.
Their character is more close to corsicans and jews and they aren't idiots and does know history....
Talks are for public, real life is real life.
 
All you apologists that want Ukraine to just give up are like premature ejaculators. Ukraine has all the momentum right now and it's looking like they might break through.
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Ukraine has a few advantages right now (artillery, better quality units) but its not overwhelming and Ukraine doesn't have the manpower like Russia to play the long game. The Ukrainian offensive right now is still a slog and Ukraine needs some luck with the weather to cooperate.

In your earlier post in the old thread, you linked a few videos from Info Flow. While not as bad as the Hindustani channel which is straight up bullshit fake news, the Info Flow channel is also quite bad. The videos have clickbait titles and thumbnails which do not mesh with their videos. For example the video "David Petraeus - The Catastrophic Collapse of Russia..." with the thumbnail Putin is Done Only 4 weeks - no where in the video is it say how Russia is going to catastrophically collapse much less in 4 weeks. And it sounded like an old speech or interview from Petraeus from Feb2023.
 
Ukraine has a few advantages right now (artillery, better quality units) but its not overwhelming and Ukraine doesn't have the manpower like Russia to play the long game. The Ukrainian offensive right now is still a slog and Ukraine needs some luck with the weather to cooperate.

In your earlier post in the old thread, you linked a few videos from Info Flow. While not as bad as the Hindustani channel which is straight up bullshit fake news, the Info Flow channel is also quite bad. The videos have clickbait titles and thumbnails which do not mesh with their videos. For example the video "David Petraeus - The Catastrophic Collapse of Russia..." with the thumbnail Putin is Done Only 4 weeks - no where in the video is it say how Russia is going to catastrophically collapse much less in 4 weeks. And it sounded like an old speech or interview from Petraeus from Feb2023.

Who cares? I'm just listening to the interviews.
 
BTW about Lithuanians, they never will admit that they still does have vendetta as norm and it is worse than Corsican stuff because they might do this even after decades.... also not only with physical force. They might ruin business etc even indirectly with other's hands and long years after initial shit had happened. They never will warn you about possible revenge therefore they are more dangerous than to have problems with mafia or cosa nostra.
One from most impactful boxing managers is lithuanian.
They aren't kurds and by character more close to corsicans, spanish ppl and jews + usually chatolics till some border or atheists.
 
Ukraine has a few advantages right now (artillery, better quality units) but its not overwhelming and Ukraine doesn't have the manpower like Russia to play the long game. The Ukrainian offensive right now is still a slog and Ukraine needs some luck with the weather to cooperate.

In your earlier post in the old thread, you linked a few videos from Info Flow. While not as bad as the Hindustani channel which is straight up bullshit fake news, the Info Flow channel is also quite bad. The videos have clickbait titles and thumbnails which do not mesh with their videos. For example the video "David Petraeus - The Catastrophic Collapse of Russia..." with the thumbnail Putin is Done Only 4 weeks - no where in the video is it say how Russia is going to catastrophically collapse much less in 4 weeks. And it sounded like an old speech or interview from Petraeus from Feb2023.

Small correction,ukraine does not have advantage in artillery, fire rate is completely in russias favor with 30k to 40k (at peak it reached 60k) rounds fired a day versus ukraines 5k to 10k.
 
"Putin does not plan to attend Prigozhin's funeral
Vladimir Putin does not plan to attend the funeral of Wagnerian leader Yevgeny Prigozhin, the Kremlin announced, according to Reuters."

Some how I am not surprised.
Yeah but he did not have anything to do with Prigozhin's death and I hear Putin has bridges for sale lol.
 
Small correction,ukraine does not have advantage in artillery, fire rate is completely in russias favor with 30k to 40k (at peak it reached 60k) rounds fired a day versus ukraines 5k to 10k.
Yes but this I hear going to be changing soon US and German have been working on boosting production of the artillery production. US has converted a number of older factories and each rumored to be able to produce over 5,000 a week to 15,000 a week.
 
Great job guys:

“Brussels proposed the latest package of financing for Ukraine to stretch over four years, in part to insulate Kyiv from political volatility. EU ministers will restart consultations today after their summer break, with support for Ukraine top of the agenda at meetings of defence and foreign ministers.

So far, funding negotiations have been complicated by the European Commission bundling together financial support for Ukraine with top-up requirements for the EU budget, including provisions to cover debt interest costs and a salary increase for EU officials.”

source: FT (paywall)
 
Small correction,ukraine does not have advantage in artillery, fire rate is completely in russias favor with 30k to 40k (at peak it reached 60k) rounds fired a day versus ukraines 5k to 10k.
Russian shelling is down to 1/10th of is peak currently due to Ukrainian attacks on Russian logistics, better quality NATO shells vs Russian old stocks, better counter battery radars.
 
Great job guys:

“Brussels proposed the latest package of financing for Ukraine to stretch over four years, in part to insulate Kyiv from political volatility. EU ministers will restart consultations today after their summer break, with support for Ukraine top of the agenda at meetings of defence and foreign ministers.

So far, funding negotiations have been complicated by the European Commission bundling together financial support for Ukraine with top-up requirements for the EU budget, including provisions to cover debt interest costs and a salary increase for EU officials.”

source: FT (paywall)

salary increase for EU officials

I mean the poor EU officials need to eat too..
They almost work for free, and they do a great job, at least thats what they will tell you.


 
Russian shelling is down to 1/10th of is peak currently due to Ukrainian attacks on Russian logistics, better quality NATO shells vs Russian old stocks, better counter battery radars.

Fair enough

Weird though that newsweek reported russia having fire rate of 4x to ukrs (20k to 5k) three weeks before that article but who.knows

https://www.newsweek.com/why-ukraine-burning-through-ammo-war-russia-1812294

Not to mention royal united service institute says rus artillery has gotten better doctorine wise

https://rusi.org/explore-our-resear...illery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations

Lets see if artillery ammo thing comes up elsewhere
 
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Putin is not planning to attend the funeral for Wagner chief Prigozhin, the Kremlin says

ST. PETERSBURG, Russia (AP) — President Vladimir Putin is not planning to attend the funeral for Yevgeny Prigozhin, the Kremlin said, following reports that the mercenary chief who challenged the Russian leader’s authority would be buried Tuesday.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov wouldn’t say where or when the chief of the Wagner Group military company would be buried, adding that he couldn’t comment on a private family ceremony.

St. Petersburg’s Fontanka news outlet and some other media said the 62-year-old Prigozhin could be laid to rest as early as Tuesday at the city’s Serafimovskoye cemetery, which has been used for high-profile military burials. Heavy police cordons encircled the cemetery, where Putin’s parents are also buried, but no service was immediately held and increased police patrols also were seen at some other city cemeteries.

Later in the day, a funeral was held at St. Petersburg’s Northern Cemetery for Wagner’s logistics chief Valery Chekalov, who died in the Aug. 23 crash alongside Prigozin.

The tight secrecy and confusion surrounding the funeral of Prigozhin and his top lieutenants reflected a dilemma faced by the Kremlin amid swirling speculation that the crash was likely a vendetta for his mutiny.

While it tried to avoid any pomp-filled ceremony for the man branded by Putin as a traitor for his rebellion, the Kremlin couldn’t afford to denigrate Prigozhin, who was given Russia’s highest award for leading Wagner forces in Ukraine and was idolized by many of the country’s hawks.

Putin’s comments on Prigozhin’s death reflected that careful stand. He noted last week that Wagner leaders “made a significant contribution” to the fighting in Ukraine and described Prigozhin as a ”talented businessman” and “a man of difficult fate” who had “made serious mistakes in life.”

Sergei Markov, a pro-Kremlin political analyst, noted that Prigozhin has become a legendary figure for his supporters who are increasingly critical of the authorities.

“Prigozhin’s funeral raises an issue of communication between the bureaucratic Russian government system that doesn’t have much political potential and politically active patriotic segment of the Russian public,” Markov said.

The country’s top criminal investigation agency, the Investigative Committee, officially confirmed Prigozhin’s death on Sunday.

The committee didn’t say what might have caused Prigozhin’s business jet to plummet from the sky minutes after taking off from Moscow for St. Petersburg. Just before the crash, Prigozhin had returned from a trip to Africa, where he sought to expand Wagner Group’s activities.

Prigozhin’s second-in-command, Dmitry Utkin, a retired military intelligence officer who gave the mercenary group its name based on his own nom de guerre, was also among the 10 people who died in the crash.

A preliminary U.S. intelligence assessment concluded that an intentional explosion caused the plane to crash, and Western officials have pointed to a long list of Putin’s foes who have been assassinated. The Kremlin rejected Western allegations the president was behind the crash as an “absolute lie.”

The crash came exactly two months after Prigozhin launched a rebellion against the Russian military leadership. The brutal and profane leader ordered his mercenaries to take over the military headquarters in the southern city of Rostov-on-Don and then began a march on Moscow. They downed several military aircraft, killing more than a dozen pilots.

Putin denounced the revolt as “treason” and vowed to punish its perpetrators but hours later struck a deal that saw Prigozhin ending the mutiny in exchange for amnesty and permission for him and his troops to move to Belarus.

The fate of Wagner, which until recently played a prominent role in Russia’s military campaign in Ukraine and was involved in a number of African and Middle Eastern countries, is uncertain.

Putin said Wagner fighters could sign a contract with the Russian military, move to Belarus or retire from service. Several thousand have deployed to Belarus, where they are in a camp southeast of the capital, Minsk.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-wagner-prigozhin-putin-burial-dc62a2919f7cfb2d0e63321f6bc1fa1a
 
"Putin does not plan to attend Prigozhin's funeral
Vladimir Putin does not plan to attend the funeral of Wagnerian leader Yevgeny Prigozhin, the Kremlin announced, according to Reuters."

Some how I am not surprised.

- Didn't seen you posted before, me. Fellow cat-buddy!
Would be the ultimate cold move.
 
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- Didn't seen you posted before, me. Fellow cat-buddy!
Would be the ultimate cold move.

As Dana would have said "Pirogi was never my friend".
Its a cold cold world when your killer wont attend your funeral.
 
Fair enough

Weird though that newsweek reported russia having fire rate of 4x to ukrs (20k to 5k) three weeks before that article but who.knows

https://www.newsweek.com/why-ukraine-burning-through-ammo-war-russia-1812294

Not to mention royal united service institute says rus artillery has gotten better doctorine wise

https://rusi.org/explore-our-resear...illery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations

Lets see if artillery ammo thing comes up elsewhere

iirc, Ukraine has been trading artillery pieces with Russia at 3 russian for every Ukraine for a few months now. And in some locations definitely has the advantage. Of course, artillery can be moved.
 
According to news Pirogi is already buried. Private ceremony in St P.
 
Saw some tweets about wagner cemeteries getting bulldozed and cemented over. How's that play out in Russia?

 
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