International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V13

[Ruthless Ryan]

I thought this was interesting, 2014 numbers:

So, just using Army (soldiers) numbers. Russia had 6 times what Ukraine had. Given that both sides are roughly down by half (killed and wounded), Ukraine would still need an Army roughly 5 to 6 times what it currently has to move Russia back to its original borders. Not going to happen. A 70,000 strong Ukrainian Army will become ineffective when it reaches 35,000 soldiers. At the current rate of Ukrainian losses, this will most likely happen in another 18 months. How will Ukraine defend itself when they reach that point?

You are making assumptions again, you already predicted long ago that UKR would be finished by now but they are still here not kissing Putlers boots. They changed their tactics after the initial loses at the beginning of the counter offensive and are striking well behind enemy lines into ammo depots and other important targets while pounding Russia troops sitting in their mine fields and trenches.
I've read many different articles about Russia is having a man power problem of their own as they continue to lose more men then UKR.

 

[Rational Poster]

I thought this was interesting, 2014 numbers:

So, just using Army (soldiers) numbers. Russia had 6 times what Ukraine had. Given that both sides are roughly down by half (killed and wounded), Ukraine would still need an Army roughly 5 to 6 times what it currently has to move Russia back to its original borders. Not going to happen. A 70,000 strong Ukrainian Army will become ineffective when it reaches 35,000 soldiers. At the current rate of Ukrainian losses, this will most likely happen in another 18 months. How will Ukraine defend itself when they reach that point?

lmao this is like mma math but more dumb.

 

[PEB]

Caterpillar wants in just showed an absolute monster of a tractor with massive shovel and huge arms in the front of the unit. It rumor weigh is over 250,000 lbs with all metal track. They kept talking about dragon teeth and russian mines though lol. It's autonomous too but can get damaged but it has been improved to better handle these large mines.
It's none of these it was just a photo when I went to look for it.

 

[SandisLL]

They already had bad demographics. Now they are rather destroyed in that way.

Where there are problems?
They really might hire mercenaries if they will use EU financial assitance properly and Ukraine might use also prisoners, to learn from Russia and ....to hire and train mercenaries from Africa.
Why not.
It is fair and honest thing, winners aren't judged etc stuff.
Reality vs waste of time for clickbaits.
Wagner had used mercenaries from Somalia too and why Ukraine can't?

 

[BlankaPresident]

I thought this was interesting, 2014 numbers:

So, just using Army (soldiers) numbers. Russia had 6 times what Ukraine had. Given that both sides are roughly down by half (killed and wounded), Ukraine would still need an Army roughly 5 to 6 times what it currently has to move Russia back to its original borders. Not going to happen. A 70,000 strong Ukrainian Army will become ineffective when it reaches 35,000 soldiers. At the current rate of Ukrainian losses, this will most likely happen in another 18 months. How will Ukraine defend itself when they reach that point?

Ukraine can commit 100% to a war in their own territory, Russia can't.

 

[Rod1]

Ukraine can commit 100% to a war in their own territory, Russia can't.

He will say Russia can because nobody wants to invade Russia, but somehow NATO aggressions provoked the war because Russia was afraid of invasion.

 

[Rod1]

Massive drone attack against Russia right now.

How the turntables.

 

[Badr Hari]

Pskov is 600 km from Ukr and close to the border with Estonia. Is Rus sure Ukr is their only enemy lately?

 

[Badr Hari]

This is Ruski Z Telegram giving an explanation:

(They show a satellite image)

An illustration of why the enemy chose the airfield in Pskov for the attack. This is how it looked on recent satellite images (photo from open sources). Apparently, due to the distance from the border with Ukraine, the object was not prepared for enemy drone strikes.

Now it is important to understand how seriously four Il-76s were damaged. For aircraft of this type, the boundary between damage after which the aircraft is subject to restoration, and those after which it is sent for scrap, is very unsteady.

 

[Badr Hari]

It seems Ukr has their own shaheed now or somebody is doing sabotage work deep inside Rus.

 

[Strychnine]

It seems Ukr has their own shaheed now or somebody is doing sabotage work deep inside Rus.

Both??!!?

 

[cottagecheesefan]

I posted two articles referencing polls from June 2023 ...any thoughts?

What does you article from '6 days ago' have anything to do with polls for yay or nay? Yes there's some ongoing corruption. A bunch of regional recruitment commissars got fired. What does that have to do with whether the population at large support or oppose ceding land for 'peace'? Your deflection is noted.

cannot see the wsj article due to pay. As for other, i would say the other from the kyiv institute of whatever, as if that is some completely unbiased source, but if it took them a month to poll only 1000 people, they are being overly selective and likely biased. And it does not include people who fled the country or those in controlled areas.

so I would say a problem with recruitment and after a failed spring offensive is much more relevant

 

[Hog-train]

So they got by the first line of defense. Isn't the 1st line the hardest one to get by?

 

[tramendous]

So they got by the first line of defense. Isn't the 1st line the hardest one to get by?

No. 1st line of defence is usually a screen to disrupt, slow down and damage the enemy before they hit the 2nd line. The defenders usually fallback to the 2nd, 3rd line as needed with the last line usually held the hardest by the defenders since its the last line.

 

[Badr Hari]

So they got by the first line of defense. Isn't the 1st line the hardest one to get by?

I've heard second and third are absolute hell. All are within 20 km range. After the third it's basically 50 km of free land to the sea. Getting past the third is nearly impossible though in 2023.

 

[syct23]

So they got by the first line of defense. Isn't the 1st line the hardest one to get by?

Yup,

Just like a woman…

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

This is Ruski Z Telegram giving an explanation:

(They show a satellite image)

An illustration of why the enemy chose the airfield in Pskov for the attack. This is how it looked on recent satellite images (photo from open sources). Apparently, due to the distance from the border with Ukraine, the object was not prepared for enemy drone strikes.

Now it is important to understand how seriously four Il-76s were damaged. For aircraft of this type, the boundary between damage after which the aircraft is subject to restoration, and those after which it is sent for scrap, is very unsteady.

Just seen video of the massive fires going on and also read it was 5 that got destroyed , either way that is huge, not something that can be easily replaced and a massive price tag to go with it.

 

[Rod1]

No. 1st line of defence is usually a screen to disrupt, slow down and damage the enemy before they hit the 2nd line. The defenders usually fallback to the 2nd, 3rd line as needed with the last line usually held the hardest by the defenders since its the last line.

Look at this videogame logic you are applying here.

No, the first one is the hardest because most Russian logistics are in the second one, if Ukrainians manage to reach the "main line" then virtually everything behind the line becomes within reach or artillery, which is why Russians are sending everything to try and recapture what they are losing.

They also can't mine as heavily because Russians are using the roads to supply the front, so there are clear paths once those lines are breached as opposed to currently where everything is mined.

 

[tramendous]

Look at this videogame logic you are applying here.

No, the first one is the hardest because most Russian logistics are in the second one, if Ukrainians manage to reach the "main line" then virtually everything behind the line becomes within reach or artillery, which is why Russians are sending everything to try and recapture what they are losing.

They also can't mine as heavily because Russians are using the roads to supply the front, so there are clear paths once those lines are breached as opposed to currently where everything is mined.

It is sound logic. Its called defence in depth. The idea is to degrade the attackers as much as possible before they reach the last line or weaken them enough so that they're vulnerable to a counterattack. If they reach the last line in strength and your previous lines didn't do enough damage, you're screwed anyways and would've been even if you had just 1 line. You're a notorious contrarian when it comes to things that go against your political beliefs even if its common sense and incredibly obvious so I don't expect you to be able to engage honestly.

 

[MeatWagon06]

20 yr combat vet Ryan Mcbeth absolutely shits on Kremlin mouthpiece MacGregor and Fucker Carlson for spreading misinformation.



Worth a watch to laugh at Carlson stans.