International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V13

[Joe]

Holy shit this must have been some attack
Thats a lot of money in flames

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

20 yr combat vet Ryan Mcbeth absolutely shits on Kremlin mouthpiece MacGregor and Fucker Carlson for spreading misinformation.



Worth a watch to laugh at Carlson stans.

Hard to believe he would go on a show and tell so may lies and exaggerations. He's obviously being paid in roubles there is no way he could be such a fan of Russia.

 

[Cid]

I thought this was interesting, 2014 numbers:

So, just using Army (soldiers) numbers. Russia had 6 times what Ukraine had. Given that both sides are roughly down by half (killed and wounded), Ukraine would still need an Army roughly 5 to 6 times what it currently has to move Russia back to its original borders. Not going to happen. A 70,000 strong Ukrainian Army will become ineffective when it reaches 35,000 soldiers. At the current rate of Ukrainian losses, this will most likely happen in another 18 months. How will Ukraine defend itself when they reach that point?

Your attempt at math has gone as well as is to be expected.

 

[Denter]

I thought this was interesting, 2014 numbers:

So, just using Army (soldiers) numbers. Russia had 6 times what Ukraine had. Given that both sides are roughly down by half (killed and wounded), Ukraine would still need an Army roughly 5 to 6 times what it currently has to move Russia back to its original borders. Not going to happen. A 70,000 strong Ukrainian Army will become ineffective when it reaches 35,000 soldiers. At the current rate of Ukrainian losses, this will most likely happen in another 18 months. How will Ukraine defend itself when they reach that point?

Honestly we have no idea what the current casualty numbers are, but we know the Russian MOD numbers are wrong and the Ukrainian numbers are wrong. I have guessed based on reported force numbers after call ups but it's just a guess. I can proffer my guess IMO it will make the Ukraine respecters upset.

 

[Strychnine]

Holy shit this must have been some attack
Thats a lot of money in flames

That is a BIG FREAKING DEAL.

 

[Strychnine]

 

[SandisLL]

That is a BIG FREAKING DEAL.

Russia does have a lot of ukr or 1/2 ukr origin ppl listed in papers as...russians and with russian passports due to USSR era rusification policy....and other policies etc.
So sabotage risk is high....

 

[Rholk]

Holy shit this must have been some attack
Thats a lot of money in flames

Seems like they used 4 grounded aircraft to succesfully intercept the drones

 

[grimballer]

it looks like kiev comedians days in the role of nato puppet president are numbered...

https://www.rt.com/russia/582057-zelensky-military-coup-cia/

apparently people don't like pointlessly dying in a war they can't win and that only serves the interests of another country, who knew?

 

[SandisLL]

Pskov is 600 km from Ukr and close to the border with Estonia. Is Rus sure Ukr is their only enemy lately?

Estonia does have closer stuff: Narva hydroelectric pover plant and Ivangorod.
Literally in distance easily to be shelled with simple mortars etc...
2 cities really close : Narva and Ivangorod.
Estonia might turn Ivangorod into Bakhmut with their own forces without NATO assistance.
Or without violence just to cut off water pipeline for Ivangorod.
While these local russians living in this city aren't aggressive.

 

[lsa]

Caterpillar wants in just showed an absolute monster of a tractor with massive shovel and huge arms in the front of the unit. It rumor weigh is over 250,000 lbs with all metal track. They kept talking about dragon teeth and russian mines though lol. It's autonomous too but can get damaged but it has been improved to better handle these large mines.
It's none of these it was just a photo when I went to look for it.

Cat is sending vehicles to Ukraine?
Do you have a source? I like to read more.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Russia does have a lot of ukr or 1/2 ukr origin ppl listed in papers as...russians and with russian passports due to USSR era rusification policy....and other policies etc.
So sabotage risk is high....

And not to mention the Wagner factor which I think will be real. I can’t see them just taking what happened to Prig and not do anything about it.

 

[chardog]

20 yr combat vet Ryan Mcbeth absolutely shits on Kremlin mouthpiece MacGregor and Fucker Carlson for spreading misinformation.



Worth a watch to laugh at Carlson stans.

This guy is a liar, loser and fat.
He starts off with a lot of fluff, he starts off with they are both losing…. Tucker is on the money, the success of Ukr is over reported and russias flaws also over reported. Complete waste of time from a lard ass. Colonel inaccurate about the amount of Russian troops available based on tic tok, yet he doesn’t provide what the counts are

nothing more than beating neocon drums, the whole point of the video was to make it seem the war is not completely lost….. not about why are we involved….

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

it looks like kiev comedians days in the role of nato puppet president are numbered...

https://www.rt.com/russia/582057-zelensky-military-coup-cia/

apparently people don't like pointlessly dying in a war they can't win and that only serves the interests of another country, who knew?

I believe in bigfoot more then I believe that article.

 

[Devil's_Advocate]

That is a BIG FREAKING DEAL.

4D chess by Russia as usual.

 

[Rholk]

https://www.reuters.com/business/en...olled company also,of its adjusted net income.

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Russia's Gazprom says it swings to Q2 net loss as exports to Europe slump
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August 29, 20238:39 PM GMT+2Updated 10 hours ago

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MOSCOW, Aug 29 (Reuters) - Russia's Gazprom (GAZP.MM) said on Tuesday it generated a net loss of 18.6 billion roubles ($197 million) in the second quarter of 2023 after a net profit of 1.03 trillion roubles a year earlier following the collapse of gas exports to Europe.

Gazprom has suspended the disclosure of its exports data, but according to Reuters calculations, supplies to Europe, once its key source of earnings, were about 15 billion cubic metres (bcm) in January-July compared with 62 bcm for the whole 2022.

But that run hasn't continued for
"The decline in exports to Europe was partially offset by supplies to China, which continue to grow as part of contractual obligations, as well as the efficient operation of the oil business," Famil Sadygov, Gazprom's Deputy CEO, said on Telegram messaging app.

He also said the earnings were impacted by the rouble rate, which weakened 24% against the U.S. dollar in the first six months of this year.

The Kremlin-controlled company also said its net income for the first six months of the year fell to 296 billion roubles from 2.5 trillion roubles in January-June 2022, while its base for dividend payment reached 618 billion roubles for the period.

The company usually pays dividend of 50% of its adjusted net income.

($1 = 94.4250 roubles)

remember kids, sanctions dont work

 

[SandisLL]

And not to mention the Wagner factor which I think will be real. I can’t see them just taking what happened to Prig and not do anything about it.

Wagner is strange.
Some part of them are Nazi. I mean Utkin & his comrades....
The same SS letters and swastika alone aren't clear nazi symbol, while to copy paste tattoo with full official emblem approved by Hitler with eagle keeping closed circle with swastika inside is... it is clean Hitlerism symbol.

Swastika had been used by american indians, hinduists and buddhists... and in other cultures...long ago before germans had been considered as nation.

 

[grimballer]

I believe in bigfoot more then I believe that article.

you already believe in bigfoot, its called msm propaganda...

 

[SandisLL]

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russias-gazprom-says-it-swings-q2-net-loss-exports-europe-slump-2023-08-29/#:~:text=The Kremlin-controlled company also,of its adjusted net income.

remember kids, sanctions dont work

There is worse stuff.
Europe had reduced natural gas consumption therefore even sanctions remowal will not bring export potential to EU back...

 

[Rod1]

It is sound logic. Its called defence in depth. The idea is to degrade the attackers as much as possible before they reach the last line or weaken them enough so that they're vulnerable to a counterattack. If they reach the last line in strength and your previous lines didn't do enough damage, you're screwed anyways and would've been even if you had just 1 line. You're a notorious contrarian when it comes to things that go against your political beliefs even if its common sense and incredibly obvious so I don't expect you to be able to engage honestly.

Its not common sense, this isnt medieval warfare


Trenches only stop ground troops, not artillery and this is an artillery war.