International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V13

[Vergilius]

I've heard second and third are absolute hell. All are within 20 km range. After the third it's basically 50 km of free land to the sea. Getting past the third is nearly impossible though in 2023.

This is true, but it's all contingent on manpower. You can have the most fearsome defensive line in the world, but it will be basically worthless without soldiers to man it. So the big question is whether Ukraine will be/has been able to lure the Russian reserves into action around the various theaters. If Russia has overcomitted in Bakhmut, Kupiansk, down by the river in Kherson or even on the first defensive line, the breakthrough could be easier to achieve than it should be. Especially because Russia cannot redploy its forces across the front with the speed that Ukraine is able to achieve.

Of course there is no way for us to know this currently, just as we have no real handle on Ukraine's losses.

 

[Yehudim]

https://archive.ph/rgsdt

This was an absolutely horrible article about that, which somehow tried to make the man's wife not look like a monster. The reality is, a lot of people are just totally mercenary. The highest per capita number of divorces in this country is still 1946 for a reason. A lot of these women won't be going back to Ukraine.

Love from Kazakhstan

 

[BlankaPresident]

What does this mean? If you commit 100% does that mean you are going to win?
That would be @Rational Poster philosophy from MMA or the UFC. As long as a fighter is 100% committed, he will win the fight. What if both fighters are 100% committed?

What the fuck are you talking about lol

Russia is a huge country, with some hostile borders and semi autonomous regions with separatist aspirations. They can't afford to deploy all their forces to the Ukraine theatre. They need soldiers elsewhere.

So the disparity of forces is not as big as the raw numbers suggest, because Russia can't use 100% of them.

English obviously is not my first language but it wasn't hard to understand, was it?

 

[Hog-train]

What the fuck are you talking about lol

Russia is a huge country, with some hostile borders and semi autonomous regions with separatist aspirations. They can't afford to deploy all their forces to the Ukraine theatre. They need soldiers elsewhere.

So the disparity of forces is not as big as the raw numbers suggest, because Russia can't use 100% of them.

English obviously is not my first language but it wasn't hard to understand, was it?

There are rumblings China is going to try to take back the outer parts of Manchuria that is still in Russian hands. That's 400,000 square miles of land that Russia took from China back in the day.

 

[Videer]

Russian drone footage shows that Ukraine has breached the Surovikin line just outside of Verbove with infantry. 47.44189, 35.95220

 

[lsa]

LOL..

Russia does not want to see an international investigation
Russia will not allow an international investigation into the plane crash that killed Wagnerian leader Yevgeny Prigozhin, Reuters reports.
That after the Brazilian Center for the Investigation and Prevention of Air Accidents (CENIPA) expressed a desire to participate in an investigation into the crash, as the plane Prigozhin and nine others were traveling in was Brazilian-made.
"They are not obligated, just recommended to do it," Marcelo Moreno, head of CENIPA, told Reuters."

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Russian drone footage shows that Ukraine has breached the Surovikin line just outside of Verbove with infantry. 47.44189, 35.95220

Kinda surprised they put so much time and resources into these massive dragons teeth lines. This things are obviously an inconvenience but at same time can be taken out from far away with todays accurate tank and artillery shots for which ever path they choose. Thought those were more WW1 stuff.

 

[Rational Poster]

What does this mean? If you commit 100% does that mean you are going to win?
That would be @Rational Poster philosophy from MMA or the UFC. As long as a fighter is 100% committed, he will win the fight. What if both fighters are 100% committed?

Nah I'll leave the stupid and useless comparisons to you kiddo.

 

[Boxiana]

EU continuing to do its bit:

“The EU is set to import record volumes of liquefied natural gas from Russia this year, despite aiming for the bloc to wean itself off Russian fossil fuels by 2027.

In the first seven months of this year, Belgium and Spain were the second and third-biggest buyers of Russian LNG behind China, according to analysis of industry data by Global Witness, a nongovernment organisation.

Overall, EU imports of the super-chilled gas were up 40 per cent between January and July this year compared with the same period in 2021, before Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.”

Source: FT

 

[SandisLL]

Ukraine found that the grenade that Russia dropping on from drones came from China no official announcement by the US that China been aiding Russia though that has to change soon.

There ofc is also possible that something manufactured in China might be sold to Iran or North Korea and these later had re sold cos nice profit to Russia.
Pakistan is to some extent China's client for weapons sales while ....they not likely will allow formally to send weapons or ammo to Russia.

 

[SandisLL]

EU continuing to do its bit:

“The EU is set to import record volumes of liquefied natural gas from Russia this year, despite aiming for the bloc to wean itself off Russian fossil fuels by 2027.

In the first seven months of this year, Belgium and Spain were the second and third-biggest buyers of Russian LNG behind China, according to analysis of industry data by Global Witness, a nongovernment organisation.

Overall, EU imports of the super-chilled gas were up 40 per cent between January and July this year compared with the same period in 2021, before Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.”

Source: FT

This is biased jourlism and clickbait.
$ billions EU businesses and countries had invested in heat efficiency and insulation, these solar collectors and panels, wind stuff etc aren't listed.
Why Spain can't purchase russian natural gas if Zelensky is allowing russian natural gas, crude oil, fertilizers transit to Hungary from Mother Russia....?
So there is big question who is to be blamed here, especially cos looks that Ukraine had been shelled with missiles they had sold to Russia in 1999 th and Ukraine is helping not only finance this war, they are shelled with missiles they had sent to Russia as payment for natural gas.
Ukraine had sent to Russia also bombers in order to get cheap russian natural gas.
Zelensky even didn't had closed transit from Russia to terrorists controlled area in Moldova and IS financing Russia indirectly cos this.
And nope, I don't need natural gas.
Our local peat is bad for Angela and Urzula, while peat burned somewhere and after this electricity sold ....then cool life and 0 problems with climate change.

 

[Rholk]

Russian drone footage shows that Ukraine has breached the Surovikin line just outside of Verbove with infantry. 47.44189, 35.95220

So far for the "they took giant losses, while they haven't even reached the first defensive line, which is the first real defensive line yet"-crowd.
Hope they can exploit this.

 

[MeatWagon06]

This guy is a liar, loser and fat.
He starts off with a lot of fluff, he starts off with they are both losing…. Tucker is on the money, the success of Ukr is over reported and russias flaws also over reported. Complete waste of time from a lard ass. Colonel inaccurate about the amount of Russian troops available based on tic tok, yet he doesn’t provide what the counts are

nothing more than beating neocon drums, the whole point of the video was to make it seem the war is not completely lost….. not about why are we involved….

That’s your take from this? Haha. Dude spent 20 yrs in the military then transferred to writing code for the info sector. So what if he gained weight in retirement, I thought this was America? I’d say his input is 20x more qualified than yours.

You’re obviously one of those blind Carlson stans. He literally never “fluffs” on any of his videos, but since he was covering a popular controversial figure he felt the need to introduce himself to me viewers.

 

[chardog]

That’s your take from this? Haha. Dude spent 20 yrs in the military then transferred to writing code for the info sector. So what if he gained weight in retirement, I thought this was America? I’d say his input is 20x more qualified than yours.

You’re obviously one of those blind Carlson stans. He literally never “fluffs” on any of his videos, but since he was covering a popular controversial figure he felt the need to introduce himself to me viewers.

I broke it down, cry more neocon

 

[AWilder]

Kinda surprised they put so much time and resources into these massive dragons teeth lines. This things are obviously an inconvenience but at same time can be taken out from far away with todays accurate tank and artillery shots for which ever path they choose. Thought those were more WW1 stuff.

It's because Russia lacks the manpower to defend these lines appropriately.

 

[Blayt7hh]

I thought this was interesting, 2014 numbers:

So, just using Army (soldiers) numbers. Russia had 6 times what Ukraine had. Given that both sides are roughly down by half (killed and wounded), Ukraine would still need an Army roughly 5 to 6 times what it currently has to move Russia back to its original borders. Not going to happen. A 70,000 strong Ukrainian Army will become ineffective when it reaches 35,000 soldiers. At the current rate of Ukrainian losses, this will most likely happen in another 18 months. How will Ukraine defend itself when they reach that point?

You know there are the same charts from right before the war started right? You don’t have to use entirely outdated data

 

[lsa]

I predict a window in this mans future
Damn...

 

[Scerpi]

Sure seems like he's just saying random words or phrases he heard/read.

NATO/US has so far sent a lot of their old equipment. Ukraine is also fighting with their hands tied behind their backs by limitations on attacking Russia within Russia using long range missiles they got. Ukraine has still not been sent long range missiles to strike most parts of Russia. Ukraine has still not received planes. It took forever to gets tanks. It took forever to gets HIMARS.

If Ukraine received even what it has so far in the first month of the war, this war would have been over.

Dude... even when those planes get there. It'll at least a year, likely much longer to train Ukraine pilots how to fly them. And then they'll probably end up just getting shot down anyway by Russian planes or anti-aircraft. It takes years to learn the muscle memorty required for combat.

It's basically a giant tax write off for foreign countries to dump unwanted old planes they don't need anyway.

Supposidely, Ukraine's best pilot died in a collision during a training exercise recently.

 

[Scerpi]

There are rumblings China is going to try to take back the outer parts of Manchuria that is still in Russian hands. That's 400,000 square miles of land that Russia took from China back in the day.

Wow... if China turns on Russia.

Ok, this will get fun indeed.

 

[Nameless King]

Choke Kaliningrad oblast, shut borders. Nothing goes in and out.

Force Putler hand. Oh no. West is too weak for that, too scared. Sad reality.