International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V12

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Imo Rus isn't pushed hard enough economically. Those annexed oligarchs bank accounts, yachts, properties should of been long time ago sold out and cash given to Ukr, don't understand why they keeping it for. Relations between Rus and West should never ever recover and only left to deteriorate further to the lowest levels. Citizens barred from travelling to West, total isolation.

Western leaders are soft af when handling Rus. And just as Iran provides drones to Rus, the Ukr should have been provided drones from NATO to pound Rus cities just like Rus does it to them. No remorse.

Also Medvedev and all other barking dogs should have been banned and removed from western social media.

Very true, what kind of country talks about nuking other countries on a regular basis???, Their state media and also talks about nuking countries one after the other and wiping entire cities off the map. These are barbarians and need to be stomped out. That why I 'm hoping for a complete Russian collapse and potential reset otherwise this will be rinse and repeat should another soviet end up in charge post Putler.
 
Gawd damn, makes me proud to be a dutchman.
And the fuckers murdered a plane full of our countrymen, one of them i knew personally.
Fuck 'm.
And this is one thing the critisists dont get , these F16's are about to be replaced with f35's. The cost is practically 0

This is a fantastic start. And hopefully open the floodgates. Ukraine needs about 300 western fighters to have any chance at establishing air superiority. A rough estimate.
 
Meduza/bbc joint operation is better for russian casualty rate(ukrainian is a mystery) since they actually use russian records and explain how they conduct their study.

Confirmed 27kia, estimated about 50k kia 125k overall casualties, news from last month

https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/07/10/bring-out-your-dead
Russian MoD doesn't have LPR and DLPR and mercenaries corporations KIA list.
It is btw according to law and there they were fair. While russian KIA lists are state secret under NDA.
Like for Ukr too.
 
Rutte did not offer any specific numbers.

“At this moment, the Netherlands still owns 42 F-16s,” he said, according to CNN. “Out of these 42, we need planes to help training in Denmark and later on in Romania,” Rutte said. He added that the Netherlands would look into whether all of the remaining planes could be supplied but stated that he could not yet give a definitive number.

But while Rutte didn’t commit to a specific figure, the 42 number could also mean the Netherlands would be furnishing 23, for a total of 42 between the Netherlands and Denmark. Although, based on the 42 figure being discussed in regards to just the Netherlands, the total could be 61 between both countries. You can read our analysis of all the sources and inventories of F-16s that could potentially supply Ukraine here.

"It makes me proud that Denmark, together with the Netherlands, will donate F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine's fight for freedom against Russia and their senseless aggression," said Defense Minister Jakob Ellemann-Jensen. "Denmark's support for Ukraine is unwavering, and with the donation of F-16 aircraft, Denmark is now leading the way."
“In May the Netherlands announced that it would train Ukrainian military personnel for the deployment of F-16 aircraft,” Rutte said. “Today we can announce that the Netherlands and Denmark commit to transfer those F-16s to Ukraine as soon as the necessary conditions have been met. We are working in close cooperation with the U.S. and our other international partners. This is a next step in our support for Ukraine.”
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/dozens-of-f-16s-were-just-officially-pledged-to-ukraine

yep, these will be Aim-9X capable
 
If Ukraine merely existing constitutes victory then they should have no problem negotiating away territory. After all they still won;)

That would be civilian perspective. They are also orcs in our pissing contest to fuck with Russia
 
If Ukraine merely existing constitutes victory then they should have no problem negotiating away territory. After all they still won;)

And the fight won't be over until either...

A: Pres. Putin stops his attacks against Ukraine and withdraws back to Russian territory.

or

B: Ukraine says it is.
 
If Ukraine merely existing constitutes victory then they should have no problem negotiating away territory. After all they still won;)

You have to be stupid if you think Rus would just calm down and return to business as usual if Ukr gives them 'some territory'. Rus wants territory (and people more importantly) four times more than what they already have taken plus Moldova. Not parades of Boris Johnson in Kyiv.
 
You have to be stupid if you think Rus would just calm down and return to business as usual if Ukr gives them 'some territory'. Rus wants territory (and people more importantly) four times more than what they already have taken plus Moldova. Not parades of Boris Johnson in Kyiv.

Russia already unoffically has the part of Moldova it wants and has had it for 30 years before the US installed the Yelstin/Putin regime.
 
Russia already unoffically has the part of Moldova it wants and has had it for 30 years before the US installed the Yelstin/Putin regime.

So let me guess, the US is aiding a US installed regime to fight against another US installed regime.
 
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