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International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V12

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San Marino said:
Well, the video was very good in explaining the current Russian defenses. Did you watch it?
My question still remains open to anyone. How exactly is Ukraine going to breach those defenses.
The general assumption by some of these idiots is that if you claim Russian defenses are good, they automatically assume you are on Russia's side. They ridicule you and don't address the breaching of said defenses. It is a complex question, so, it is easier to kill the messenger.
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There's literally hundreds, if not thousands, of videos of Ukraine forces attacking these defenses on telegram, reddit, YouTube, etc. You can go watch and see which tactics work and which don't. Which defensive positions work and which got flanked. Attacking defended positions is nothing new in warfare. Ukraine is clearly not going to fight a NATO style of maneuvering warfare because they don't have full NATO support. So what we are seeing is Ukraine fight the way they know how to, mostly with artillery. Western precision and cluster munitions can greatly increase the effectiveness of Ukraine's artillery and help them win something closer to a war of attrition. Unless Ukraine suddenly enjoys air superiority, it will be unlikely to see major swaths of territory regained like last summer. There's too many minefields and dug in positions for them to move that quickly without taking unsustainable losses.
 
Cid said:
I doubt it's going to happen.

It's not the Lancet that's effective, it's the weapon type.

From a financial perspective loitering munitions are OP. We see 2000-10000 munitions taking out not just multi million dollar systems but the multi million dollar systems designed to shoot the loitering munition down.

Their success rate can be 1% and they'll still pay themselves off. Some American military honcho dismayed that it's the first time in his military career he's had to look up. I know war inspires some crazy ingenuity but I doubt anyone is going to crack this problem before America.

Honestly think the "solution" to drones in this war for either side is manufacturing (or receiving) more than the opposing side.



Also.

I'm going to take a stab in the dark here... the footage is from a cheap quad drone.

Best feature of Lancet is flight time but the footage tells me they're too valuable to be sent out without an already acquired target. Which means some at least are getting shot down.


Big question RE loitering munitions is what happened with the American equivalent Phoenix Ghost?
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Phoenix ghost was listed in the latest arms package from USA.
 
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San Marino said:
Well, the video was very good in explaining the current Russian defenses. Did you watch it?
My question still remains open to anyone. How exactly is Ukraine going to breach those defenses.
The general assumption by some of these idiots is that if you claim Russian defenses are good, they automatically assume you are on Russia's side. They ridicule you and don't address the breaching of said defenses. It is a complex question, so, it is easier to kill the messenger.
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Not seen that particular video, but i know Russian defenses are well built, that being said i was responding to your "How is Ukraine getting past them".

My guess is similar to how they pushed Russians out of Kherson, by attacking their rearguard while doing probing attacks continuosly.

Russia just did a massive attack neark Krasnohorivka and they seem to be making the exact same mistakes as in Vulhedar.
 
AWilder said:
There's literally hundreds, if not thousands, of videos of Ukraine forces attacking these defenses on telegram, reddit, YouTube, etc. You can go watch and see which tactics work and which don't. Which defensive positions work and which got flanked. Attacking defended positions is nothing new in warfare. Ukraine is clearly not going to fight a NATO style of maneuvering warfare because they don't have full NATO support. So what we are seeing is Ukraine fight the way they know how to, mostly with artillery. Western precision and cluster munitions can greatly increase the effectiveness of Ukraine's artillery and help them win something closer to a war of attrition. Unless Ukraine suddenly enjoys air superiority, it will be unlikely to see major swaths of territory regained like last summer. There's too many minefields and dug in positions for them to move that quickly without taking unsustainable losses.
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You are wasting time with russian rat.
 
Boxiana said:
Your turn:
. Branch of service
. MOS
. Units
. Deployments
. Rank
. Time in service
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. Branch of service: U.S. Army
. MOS: 11B Infantry, 38A Civil Affairs
. Units: Various, to include assignments in Brazil and USSOUTHCOM.
. Deployments: Iraq 2003, 2004.
. Rank: Major, O-4
. Time in service: 20 years (enlisted and officer)
 
Rholk said:
No ATACMS?
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Ofc in order not to worry long term business partners in russia.

While 152 mm artillery is beautiful, it does have mountains with cool and nice cluster ammunition. Millions of peaceful rounds for deNazification had been produced.
West too does have more such 155 mm rounds produced than number of inhabitants in Russia.
Rats just doesn't have brains.
Russian in average does have rat level IQ not more.
 
Limbo Pete said:
Furthermore, even if that non-sequitur wasn't a retarded non-sequitur, training to fight "anywhere in the world" doesn't mean terrain is irrelevant, it means you are trained specifically because the variety of possible terrains is actually of extreme importance. That's why you train for them.
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The 'Pete' wisdom:
. Korea: Well, we didn't win there because it was too cold, and they had mountains.
. Vietnam: We didn't win there either because it had jungle and was too hot. Who fights in a jungle environment?
. Iraq: Desert? Shit, no wonder we lost there. Plus, it was hotter than Southeast Asia.
. Afghanistan: Too cold and too many mountains, we could never fight in that.
. Taiwan: Don't know, those Japanese in the Pacific were tough, plus wading through all that water to get to the island is too much work. Let the Marines handle that.
. South Korea: Fuck that. We've tried it once and failed. We are not going back there.
. Iran: Desert again? No, we have tried that and did not do well.
. Terrain has to be smooth with trees for cover and concealment. Tanks have to follow the Infantry. Nothing too hot or too cold. God forbid it rains. We would not want that; it would slow everything down. No fighting at night, we can't see anything. Portable latrines and showers are a must, or we won't fight.
 
San Marino said:
. Branch of service: U.S. Army
. MOS: 11B Infantry, 38A Civil Affairs
. Units: Various, to include assignments in Brazil and USSOUTHCOM.
. Deployments: Iraq 2003, 2004.
. Rank: Major, O-4
. Time in service: 20 years (enlisted and officer)
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Oh God civil affairs. It's where we put the special ones.
 
AWilder said:
There's literally hundreds, if not thousands, of videos of Ukraine forces attacking these defenses on telegram, reddit, YouTube, etc. You can go watch and see which tactics work and which don't. Which defensive positions work and which got flanked. Attacking defended positions is nothing new in warfare. Ukraine is clearly not going to fight a NATO style of maneuvering warfare because they don't have full NATO support. So what we are seeing is Ukraine fight the way they know how to, mostly with artillery. Western precision and cluster munitions can greatly increase the effectiveness of Ukraine's artillery and help them win something closer to a war of attrition. Unless Ukraine suddenly enjoys air superiority, it will be unlikely to see major swaths of territory regained like last summer. There's too many minefields and dug in positions for them to move that quickly without taking unsustainable losses.
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That was actually a good post mate. See, why not keep it civil like this every time? Ukraine is not getting through those Russian defensive positions without massive losses. I think your video explained that extremely well. Ukraine will not be recovering the majority of territory taken by Russia. Ukraine no longer has the Army it had in the summer of 2022. Their numbers are shrinking by the month. Will things go back to the way they were in 2021? No. I wish Russia had not invaded, but it did. It has taken vast swathes of land that Ukraine will not be able to recover.
 
San Marino said:
The 'Pete' wisdom:
. Korea: Well, we didn't win there because it was too cold, and they had mountains.
. Vietnam: We didn't win there either because it had jungle and was too hot. Who fights in a jungle environment?
. Iraq: Desert? Shit, no wonder we lost there. Plus, it was hotter than Southeast Asia.
. Afghanistan: Too cold and too many mountains, we could never fight in that.
. Taiwan: Don't know, those Japanese in the Pacific were tough, plus wading through all that water to get to the island is too much work. Let the Marines handle that.
. South Korea: Fuck that. We've tried it once and failed. We are not going back there.
. Iran: Desert again? No, we have tried that and did not do well.
. Terrain has to be smooth with trees for cover and concealment. Tanks have to follow the Infantry. Nothing too hot or too cold. God forbid it rains. We would not want that; it would slow everything down. No fighting at night, we can't see anything. Portable latrines and showers are a must, or we won't fight.
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...what in god's holy name are you blathering about?
 
San Marino said:
Indeed, special in more ways than one. It is SOF.
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Didn't you say you tried getting into special forces but washed out before?
Edit: and that's not to shit on your military track record. Tbf Rangers is more than hard enough.

That beeing said it doesn't mean there is any merit to 95% of your, in my opinion, insanely stupid statements you've made in all of these threads.
 
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