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International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V12

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Cid said:
I doubt it's going to happen.

It's not the Lancet that's effective, it's the weapon type.

From a financial perspective loitering munitions are OP. We see 2000-10000 munitions taking out not just multi million dollar systems but the multi million dollar systems designed to shoot the loitering munition down.

Their success rate can be 1% and they'll still pay themselves off. Some American military honcho dismayed that it's the first time in his military career he's had to look up. I know war inspires some crazy ingenuity but I doubt anyone is going to crack this problem before America.

Honestly think the "solution" to drones in this war for either side is manufacturing (or receiving) more than the opposing side.



Also.

I'm going to take a stab in the dark here... the footage is from a cheap quad drone.

Best feature of Lancet is flight time but the footage tells me they're too valuable to be sent out without an already acquired target. Which means some at least are getting shot down.


Big question RE loitering munitions is what happened with the American equivalent Phoenix Ghost?
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US already has. This thing is sick.

 
SandisLL said:
In his dreams yeah.
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He reminds me of Lt. Dan from Forest Gump.

I imagine that Lt. San Gomer Pyle comes from a well decorated military family and that it was his turn to serve his country by giving his life for our freedom.

Only when it was his time to serve his country he was turned away due to obvious mental health related complications.

And so as his country turned its back on him in his moment of glory, so shall he turn his…
 
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Patrick Jane said:
Smart decision to both make sure he isn't arrested and make sure South Africa doesn't get in trouble for not arresting him either.


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Yikes. So they’re gonna fire on Turkey’s Navy if Ergodan decides to escort Ukrainian ships? He’s been acting out towards Putin so it’s a possibility. Guess Russia would want a real war with NATO then.
 
Rholk said:
Turkey announced they won't be escorting these ships anytime soon, unfortunately
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Old communists, drunk toxicomans in ruSSia announced that there are large mines in sea.
Therefore looks that ships owners will not agree to risk ....
More looks like this ....
 
This is definitely worrying and could even possibly be a push that could end the war? or at least use AFU’s reserves for their offensive. Russia looking to overwhelm Ukrainian defenses for a breakthrough.


https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-russia-northern-frontline-war-1813576?amp=1

Serhii Cherevatyi, spokesperson for the Eastern Group of Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, told local television that Moscow had gathered more than 100,000 troops on the Lyman-Kupiansk axis, as well as 900 tanks, 555 artillery systems and 370 multiple rocket launchers.

Ukrainian media outlet Ukrinform said that the number of Russian troops that had gathered was not far off the 120,000 troops Moscow had deployed to Afghanistan during the height of the Soviet invasion there between 1979 and 1989
 
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San Marino said:
. Branch of service: U.S. Army
. MOS: 11B Infantry, 38A Civil Affairs
. Units: Various, to include assignments in Brazil and USSOUTHCOM.
. Deployments: Iraq 2003, 2004.
. Rank: Major, O-4
. Time in service: 20 years (enlisted and officer)
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Cool, where did you stay here and how long?
 
Cole train said:
nope

Baldfather just adressed wagner in belarus today, said they will make belorussian army second best in world and that they might go to africa

But ukr is done for them for now

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I was starting to wonder if he was really alive or not, I believe he's not going back to UKR anytime soon, that was a slaughterhouse for Wagner and I doubt the MOD will be doing him any favors.
 
Ruthless Ryan said:
I was starting to wonder if he was really alive or not, I believe he's not going back to UKR anytime soon, that was a slaughterhouse for Wagner and I doubt the MOD will be doing him any favors.
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Go back to Africa
Rebuild his businesses and troops (as much as possible)
Find and train a successor…

Or Rebuild his unit and go out in a blaze of glory in Ukraine.

That is about all the time he has left to do at his age, if he is not assassinated first.
 
syct23 said:
Go back to Africa
Rebuild his businesses and troops (as much as possible)
Find and train a successor…

Or Rebuild his unit and go out in a blaze of glory in Ukraine.

That is about all the time he has left to do at his age, if he is not assassinated first.
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Yep, after the debacle in Bakhmut he will be more then happy to go to Africa for some low hanging fruit. UKR is a dead end war Wagner and he knew it....Just think he played the "no ammo" card so he could get some extra and keep it for Wagner for other purposes.
 
Okay I have the translation from the Belarus video:

Evgeny Prigogine:
“Hello guys. We are glad to welcome you all. With the arrival to the Belarusian land. We fought well. You have done a lot for Russia. Now, what is happening at the front (we are talking about the command apparatus of the RF Ministry of Defense) is a shame in which we do not need to participate. And now we need to wait for the moment when we can prove ourselves in full.

Therefore, it was decided that we would be here in Belarus for some time. During this time we will make of them, and I am sure, the second army in the world. And if necessary, he stood up for them, if necessary. I want to ask everyone to pay maximum attention to the fact that the Belarusians met us not only as Heroes, but also as brothers. They say that local girls in shops whisper that the Wagners have arrived. Therefore, we will also treat the Belarusians in a brotherly way.

Then we prepare, raise our level and set off on a new path - to Africa. But perhaps we will return to the war in Ukraine, at the moment when we are sure that we will not be forced to shame ourselves and our experience. We brought a flag from the base in Molkino, which we will hand over to the senior here in Belarus. And also two ribbons of the Russian and Belarusian flags, so that no one would think that we are fighting without a Flag and without a Motherland, as some people write. And now I will give the floor to the Commander, who gave us the name "Wagner Group".

Then the speech begins the commander of the "Wagner" Dmitry Utkin:
“Yes, if anyone does not know, I am that very Wagner. Most of you know me, most of you I know personally. Thanks for the work you've done. Thanks to this work, the name of the "Wagner Group" thundered throughout the world. Thanks to all! Guys thank you very much! This is not the end, this is just the beginning of the biggest work in the world that will be done very soon. Well, WELCOME TO HELL (Welcome to Hell)."

@grey_zone
 
We have number of casualties from Prigozhim himself.

Marks, the chief of staff of the Wagner PMC, commented on the personnel who took part in the NVO, as well as how many moved to the Republic of Belarus:

• 78,000 people in various positions passed through the SVO as part of the Wagner PMC.

• 49 thousand got into the ranks of "Wagner" from places of deprivation of liberty.

• On May 20, that is, on the day of the capture of Bakhmut, the number of deaths since March 19, 2022 was 22 thousand people.

• Number of wounded on the same date - 40 thousand.

• As of May 20, there were 25,000 "bayonets" in service, plus a number of 300ths who were in the process of recovering from injuries.

• 10 thousand fighters moved to the Republic of Belarus
15 thousand people are on vacation.


Thus, less than 50% of the PMC staff went to Belarus, while the majority went on vacation. Apparently, vacations can last more than one month, and employees are in reserve, and if Wagner starts active operations, the entire reserve of 15,000 will quickly enter the staff of assault squads and other PMC units. But again, this is just a guess.

In addition, it is necessary to rotate personnel in Africa, who sit there for 1-2 years. What we already see on the news from the Central African Republic.
 
So according to Prigozhin Ukr killed 30% of his mercenaries. He says Ukr know how to fight and fight for real but also says most of the blame for the big losses goes to RF ministry of defense for lack of supplies.

And when you consider the overall size of the front compared to the small section in which Wagner has operated, Wagner likely isn't the biggest loser in this war, Rus army probably has 200k+ killed soldiers not counting dpr/lpr
 
Since it's a sports forum too, my number one favorite rus athlete has always been Yelena Isinbaeva. I hear she is living in Tenerife, Spain. She has been pretty silent the whole time since the war began. A couple of days ago she made a post in Facebook in which among other things she said "I am a citizen of the globe". Part of the regime's horde in Moscow has been a little bit mad since.
 


I like how he spells ICC lol

And lol at RF declaring war to SA. SA could arrest Putin and all Rus could do to SA is eat ass.
 
Badr Hari said:
So according to Prigozhin Ukr killed 30% of his mercenaries. He says Ukr know how to fight and fight for real but also says most of the blame for the big losses goes to RF ministry of defense for lack of supplies.

And when you consider the overall size of the front compared to the small section in which Wagner has operated, Wagner likely isn't the biggest loser in this war, Rus army probably has 200k+ killed soldiers not counting dpr/lpr
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He keeps blaming Russian MOD for his loses but yet he was the one who sent meat wave after meat wave in Bakhmut, he needs to take some responsibility himself. And ofc there is rumors about Wagner taking ammunition and stockpiling it for other purposes.
 
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