Media Rose’s grandfather died

[NoBiasJustMMA]

From the UFC's perspective, they have a zone for a title fight booking with Weili available sometime around now and March, they want to give Rose the fight, but she won't say yes. So, saying she doesn't want the fight is correct from that perspective. She can say she wants the fight and mean it 6 months, 12 months, 4 years from now, and still be correct herself, but that's clearly not what the UFC is after. She doesn't want the fight. Fighting Weili in 2022 or whenever she finally does feel like it is a different fight.

And as mentioned, it's not apparent that the reason Rose isn't accepting is because a close relative (who apparently lived on a different continent, FWIW) died. Carla already implied she accepted the title fight on short notice in Nov/Dec, but it fell through. So clearly they've been trying to get Rose to sign for months, and were still trying (and probably still are - this is typical Dana negotiation tactics when a fighter is being difficult). I'm assuming her grandfather didn't die in October/November, so why didn't she sign then? Incidentally Rose is on record as saying she was offered Weili back in March for UFC 248 but 'I didn't feel like it'. So this is perfectly in character for her, family deaths or not.

I don't have an issue with them booking the champion for a fight. It's messed up to tell half truths though that paint your fighters in a negative light when they don't feel they can accept the date of a fight due to real life shit that anyone would reasonably get off work to take care of.

They could have just told the whole truth and said that Rose can't accept the date of the fight and the UFC isn't willing to have the champion wait for Rose to be ready due to a family emergency.

 

[teamfox223]

If she doesn't wanna fight and take some time off nothing wrong with that no hate i say take some time off title shot will be c there when she comes back is wmma not like there's that many contenders out there lol

 

[Biggamer86]

If this was any other fighter yall would be up in arms about the lack of warrior spirit. Sherdogs collective boner for "thug" rose never ceases to amaze

This here, I'm not gonna lie losing someone like your grandfather sucks on the flip side it's not normal to take off months of time from work for something like this either, a lot of companies in this day and age usually give you 5 days for the death of a close family member.

 

[1pedestrian]

Jake Shields and Khabib both fought shortly after their fathers died without hesitation, and I have more respect for them for being able to put their grief aside and carry on with their obligations.

Shields got KOed quickly and it took several months for Khabib to fight. Rose is under no contractual obligation.

 

[Mike]

Jake Shields and Khabib both fought shortly after their fathers died without hesitation, and I have more respect for them for being able to put their grief aside and carry on with their obligations.

Ok. Jake got ktfo tho just sayin

 

[nostradumbass]

Or the truth is the UFC didn't want the fight on Rose's schedule, nevermind the reasons.

So it would be correct to say the UFC didn't want the fight.

Does that logic work both ways?

Is that how any job has ever worked? The company refused to start the work day when I wanted them to?

 

[Bend NvR Break]

What the fuck is this? Fighter's jobs aren't comparable to 9-5 jobs they don't get payed the same way at all and if you are equating fighting to an oil change they don't do it nearly as often. Also most decent employers give people PTO for when you are sick or have a family emergency. Your analogy is terrible.

We were already short handed because people had scheduled vacations. It was a crap situation. It happens and you gotta make big boy decisions.

Quit my job to attend a funeral or not attend a funeral and continue to work.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

For someone trying to present their original post as logical, you sure are making a lot of assumptions.

Dana never said that they offered Namajunas a fight; and he's actually making statements based off hearsay.


You also don't know the difference between "can't" and "want".

You hooked me. What is the difference between can't and want.

 

[dildos]

Never mix family with business.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

We were already short handed because people had scheduled vacations. It was a crap situation. It happens and you gotta make big boy decisions.

Quit my job to attend a funeral or not attend a funeral and continue to work.

And in this situation she's basically doing the same thing and not signing a contract because of her grandfather dying, she will just come back later and will still most likely be in position to fight for the belt or at least a number 1 contender match up.

 

[Grill master]

Cool photos of her Grandad.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Is that how any job has ever worked? The company refused to start the work day when I wanted them to?

Are you pretending like PTO doesn't exist?

 

[Jibsta69]

Jake Shields and Khabib both fought shortly after their fathers died without hesitation, and I have more respect for them for being able to put their grief aside and carry on with their obligations.

Jake Shields has said he regretted that and his performance showed. Yeah Khabib did but everyone is different. Also you sound very entitled if you think fighters should put aside their personal life and grief to entertain you lol. These forums really believes fighters always owe them something when they don’t at all lol

 

[Bend NvR Break]

Are you pretending like PTO doesn't exist?

PTO isn't universal. And at my job currently you have to use it within the year or lose it. You get 2 weeks PTO and a week of sick leave and a week on personal time (time off but no pay). In order to get any of them you have to put in the request through HR and there's nothing that says the company can't deny it.

I put in for personal time and I was denied because they were already short at work. That's why they want things in advance so they can make sure the job is covered. Getting off isn't automatic.

 

[emit eromeno]

Poor thing, I bet she still has nightmares about a bus and a dolly, now this, she may never be the same

 

[Luvhawky]

We were already short handed because people had scheduled vacations. It was a crap situation. It happens and you gotta make big boy decisions.

Quit my job to attend a funeral or not attend a funeral and continue to work.

Lol, at big boy decisions. Saying that and then presenting the option of lose your job if you attend a funeral is an argument that doesn't hold up. Every company would die to settle after being sued for wrongful termination. Lol, you really said big boy...

 

[Beherit]

People grieve differently. She shouldn't be judged on how other people have reacted to loss.

 

[Xuh]

Or the truth is the UFC didn't want the fight on Rose's schedule, nevermind the reasons.

So it would be correct to say the UFC didn't want the fight.

Does that logic work both ways?

People are so precious over Rose we're actually seeing them claim right here that the organization that employs her, and Champion herself (Queen Zhang the First) should bend over backwards to accommodate the challenger.

It's crazy the lengths ppl will go to to justify this when it's Rose. Is there any other fighter in the UFC who gets this level of coddling from the fans?

 

[milliniar]

Jake Shields and Khabib both fought shortly after their fathers died without hesitation, and I have more respect for them for being able to put their grief aside and carry on with their obligations.

Hi Dana.

Or maybe Sean Shelby.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

Lol, at big boy decisions. Saying that and then presenting the option of lose your job if you attend a funeral is an argument that doesn't hold up. Every company would die to settle after being sued for wrongful termination. Lol, you really said big boy...

Yo dumbass. You not showing up for work during your scheduled time isn't them terminating you: it's you quitting. They are just refusing to rehire you. You go to unemployment and say you didn't go to work because you missed it to go to a funeral and you won't be getting any unemployment coverage because you quit you weren't fired.

Holy fuck if you can't understand that this whole topic is over your head.