Crime Riot+Looting in Ferguson, MO

[nixkid]

He was 18 (adult), he just assaulted and robbed someone and there were witnesses. That kid was going to jail. He knew it. He decided he didn't want to go. He was huge (look at the video). He probably said to himself, fuck this, I can beat up/kill this cop and avoid jail. In for a penny, in for a pound. Do I know this for a fact? Not at all. Just a guess on my part.

Why are you so certain he would go to jail? In this case, "robbed" is actually petty theft and "assault" is pushing. He didn't run up into the store, pistol whip the clerk and then ran off with thousands of dollars from the cash register. In all likelihood, he would've gotten a slap on the wrist.

 

[Matt]

lol, dude you don't know his motivation here. you don't read minds.

if i were him and was thinking clearly, i'd have gotten out of the street. according to what the cops are saying brown ignored the cop like a dumb ass, so the cop reversed and confronted him. all he had to do was get on the side walk.

i think he was drunk or something, and that's how the whole thing went down like it did. drunk and listening to rap lol.

but none of that matters, if he's 20 feet away with his hands up, you cant shoot him. even if he sucks as a person.

He was first shot in the cop's car though.

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

Who are the credible witnesses in this case? This is the crux of the issue. Did the cop shoot him with cause or did he lose his cool. It all depends on whether he knew whether or not Brown was armed and whether or not Brown was raising his hands and surrendering at a decent distance.

I don't believe either side at this point because cops tend to protect their own and folks in the hood tend to say "fuck the police".

they have been interviewed daily, and they are credible, they are not ghetto, they are not gangster, they are pretty rational, they are well spoken. they are not ghetto at all. not the 2-3 i've seen interviewed.

the cop lost his cool man, which hey, this can happen when under pressure. i don't think he's a bad person, i just think he blew it and he shouldn't have killed brown.

 

[CableandThanos]

I won't even get into a pissing match with you over who grew up most ghetto lol.

I know how to settle this

which one of you likes the biggest booty girls?

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

He was first shot in the cop's car though.

we don't know that, we only know that a gun shot happened. then he runs i guess.

one witness who i found credible said she saw him run and the cop started shooting and then his body jerked, which she thinks was a bullet hitting him, and he stopped, put his hands up and turned around. then the cop gunned him down.

you really should see these witnesses interviewed, i think you might feel differently. they are not "hood" folks, they are pretty much normal people.

the chick who testified in the martin case was ghetto, these people are not her, they are intelligent and well spoken.

 

[CableandThanos]

I just read on aol where the family is mad because they feel like the police chief is doing a character assassination.

Can your character be assassinated after robbing a store assaulting someone and resisting arrest?

Isn't your reputation already dead?

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

I won't even get into a pissing match with you over who grew up most ghetto lol.

i lost my viginity to my cousin janet, saw my best friend gabriel steal a watch off a dead man's wrist, and boned a heroin addict hooker on my 21st b day (birthday gift from gabriel btw), i agree you do not want to have a ghetto pissing match with me. lol.

 

[AviatorShades]

I just read on aol where the family is mad because they feel like the police chief is doing a character assassination.

Can your character be assassinated after robbing a store assaulting someone and resisting arrest?

Isn't your reputation already dead?

I'm sure by now a lawyer is telling them what to say by now.

Before a lawyer got in contact with Trayvon's family they admitted he was probably at fault and just said they were sad he died (radio show interview right after the shooting I believe).

Once they were picked up by a firm he became a victim of white supremacy.

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

Why are you so certain he would go to jail? In this case, "robbed" is actually petty theft and "assault" is pushing. He didn't run up into the store, pistol whip the clerk and then ran off with thousands of dollars from the cash register. In all likelihood, he would've gotten a slap on the wrist.

he didn't have a record so this is probably true.

 

[Captain Davis]

i've proven in here already where i grew up and who i grew up with, and it was only 2 people who have been confirmed for rape that i know of.

in some neighborhood the cops are completely out of control.

Yeah, you said yourself your neighborhood growing up was rough. I work closely with cops and the amount of shit they deal with daily is unbelievable! I'm sure some do lose it, but in my experience, mist show an incredible amount of restraint. I am in Montgomery, Alabama where race relations haven't always been on solid ground. Although, I find it interesting that the South is always identified as a racist wasteland, but these stories that keep popping up aren't in the South. And Central Florida doesn't count, they aren't Southern in any way besides geographically.

I'm just busting your balls about the company you keep, but my point is that I'm sure police brutality takes place, but when you compare it to the amount of interaction that doesn't result in an incident similar to this and considering what cops deal with, their conduct overall is exemplary.

Whenever a black man is involved with a white officer everyone jumps to conclusions. From my experience, I'll take the cops word first, then see how it plays out. If hes at fault, he should be dealt with accordingly. But, I have a different perspective, I guess.

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

I'm sure by now a lawyer is telling them what to say by now.

Before a lawyer got in contact with Trayvon's family they admitted he was probably at fault and just said they were sad he died (radio show interview right after the shooting I believe).

Once they were picked up by a firm he became a victim of white supremacy.

but that was before the evidence came out, all they knew was zim zam was beat up.

this is why the police are SUPPOSED to do an investigation.

 

[AviatorShades]

but that was before the evidence came out, all they knew was zim zam was beat up.

this is why the police are SUPPOSED to do an investigation.

It wasn't before they knew their kid was a violent wannabe gangster and assumed he went one step too far this time though, right?

They knew right off the bat he wasn't randomly gunned down while riding his tricycle around the neighborhood. That was an image the legal team and people like you whipped up, the same reason they used those old photos of him in a sweater instead of current photos of him brandishing weapons in his wifebeater.

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

I know how to settle this

which one of you likes the biggest booty girls?

shit, matt is half jewish so i know he prolly has a secret taste for the dark meat, i go for mexcian broads and asians.

he might be more ghetto than me on that one. lol.

 

[JadeOwl]

I just read on aol where the family is mad because they feel like the police chief is doing a character assassination.

Can your character be assassinated after robbing a store assaulting someone and resisting arrest?

Isn't your reputation already dead?

The fact that the cops are fighting tooth and nail any attempt to release the incident report about the actual shooting, but have no problem releasing only information and videos that paint the dead kid in a bad light would indicate that they may have a point.

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

Yeah, you said yourself your neighborhood growing up was rough. I work closely with cops and the amount of shit they deal with daily is unbelievable! I'm sure some do lose it, but in my experience, mist show an incredible amount of restraint. I am in Montgomery, Alabama where race relations haven't always been on solid ground. Although, I find it interesting that the South is always identified as a racist wasteland, but these stories that keep popping up aren't in the South. And Central Florida doesn't count, they aren't Southern in any way besides geographically.

I'm just busting your balls about the company you keep, but my point is that I'm sure police brutality takes place, but when you compare it to the amount of interaction that doesn't result in an incident similar to this and considering what cops deal with, their conduct overall is exemplary.

Whenever a black man is involved with a white officer everyone jumps to conclusions. From my experience, I'll take the cops word first, then see how it plays out. If hes at fault, he should be dealt with accordingly. But, I have a different perspective, I guess.

in the 90's oxnard was really really bad, so i know they took a LOT of shit and had to be on guard. it was a war zone, but to combat it they became a gang themselves, which was the opposite of what they should have done.

 

[v.kevin]

The fact that the cops are fighting tooth and nail any attempt to release the incident report about the actual shooting, but have no problem releasing only information and videos that paint the dead kid in a bad light would indicate that they may have a point.

I would like to see dash cam footage and hear his calls to dispatch, etc. Far too often the footage is not available or was lost blah blah. I hope there is cell phone or security camera footage of the confrontation to determine what really happened.

Cops are saying one thing and the good people of Ferguson are saying something different. Go figure.

 

[AviatorShades]

The fact that the cops are fighting tooth and nail any attempt to release the incident report about the actual shooting, but have no problem releasing only information and videos that paint the dead kid in a bad light would indicate that they may have a point.

Nice wording. Proving that he was a criminal out committing crime = "painting the dead kid in a bad light".

Black power, brother! Release that pig's info so we can rape his family!

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

It wasn't before they knew their kid was a violent wannabe gangster and assumed he went one step too far this time though, right?

They knew right off the bat he wasn't randomly gunned down while riding his tricycle around the neighborhood. That was an image the legal team and people like you whipped up, the same reason they used those old photos of him in a sweater instead of current photos of him brandishing weapons in his wifebeater.

give me a break.

yeah trayvon with no cimrinal record was a thug and zimmerman with a healthy history of violent crimes is an angel.

my point is once they listened to the audio of what zim zam was saying to dispatch, once they realized their son ran away in fear, once they realized zim zam ignored dispatch and stalked martin, they had a better understanding of what happened. a better understanding of who was probably the aggressor. initially all they knew was their son was dead and zim zam was beat up, the logical conclusion is martin beat him down, for who knows what reason.

and if you are making the claim they even said it was his fault, you need a source homie.

 

[Captain Davis]

I would like to see dash cam footage and hear his calls to dispatch, etc. Far too often the footage is not available or was lost blah blah. I hope there is cell phone or security camera footage of the confrontation to determine what really happened.

Cops are saying one thing and the good people of Ferguson are saying something different. Go figure.

Any time it involves a black man and a white officer, people jump to conclusions. Unfortunately, that's just the society we live in.

 

[CableandThanos]

The fact that the cops are fighting tooth and nail any attempt to release the incident report about the actual shooting, but have no problem releasing only information and videos that paint the dead kid in a bad light would indicate that they may have a point.

do we know that the actual report is finished?