Elections RFK Selected as United States Secretary of Health and Human Services

Not a lot of disagreement from me here, more so confusion about your ire directed at people who were in no way responsible for the health problems plaguing our country while tacitly (and explicitly) aligning with those who created the mess we’re in currently.




Epidemiology has its place, I agree. That said, it is a poor and inappropriate replacement for randomized placebo control studies, particularly when trying to tease out vaccine adverse events. So what we have are health authorities who didn’t conduct the right studies before introducing a medical intervention to the entire population. Then, only when outsiders raise concerns do they look into the issue using subpar methods.


I’m very familiar with this study and their previous review. You’ll notice that Cochrane didn’t explicitly rate the quality of evidence regarding safety research in the summary you posted, and that’s becuse the majority of safety research studies are subpar (you will be hard pressed to find even one high quality MMR safety study in the Cochrane review).

A previous Cochrane review from 2012 (conducted after several high profile autism/vaccine studies were already published) noted poor study quality more explicitly:

“Authors' conclusions: The design and reporting of safety outcomes in MMR vaccine studies, both pre- and post-marketing, are largely inadequate.”

I am not blaming RJK for the obesity epidemic, I'm assessing his ability to handle healthcare based on his stated beliefs. In my opinion, he is a quack. I don't believe he provides valuable solutions that can address the issue.

I don't view epidemiology as a replacement for randomised trials, it's two seperate things. It can help us ascertain a lot of things and at times infer causality, which we can then later test in some controlled studies. If it's feasible. I don't know that I understand the criticism, because the MMRV vaccines have been tested in both controlled trials and cohort studies. In regards to autism specifically, when incidence rates are so low RCT studies don't have enough power to detect differences between groups unless you include tens of thousands of participants. Cohort/epidemiological studies are more practical here and can include millions of children. Now, considering out of millions the incidence rates are identical between vaccinated and unvaccinated, I don't see how there is an argument that the vaccines cause autism.

Yes, the previous Cochrane review concluding that the reporting of safety outcomes were 'inadequate', which is one of the reasons why they updated the review almost a decade later. It's important to note here that, scientifically speaking, inedequate doesn't imply that the vaccines were unsafe only that they didn't feel the quality of evidence was strong enough. More importantly, the updated review has re-evaluated that conclusion:

Vaccines for measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella in children​

Quality of the evidence
Our certainty (confidence) in the evidence is slightly limited by the design of most of the studies. Nonetheless, we judged the certainty of the evidence for the effectiveness of the MMR vaccine to be moderate, and that for the varicella vaccine to be high. Our certainty in the evidence for autism and febrile seizures was also moderate.
 
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And I suppose you do?
Increased access to hyper-palatable junk foods and increased portion sizes both of which leads to overconsumption, deliberate advertisement and availability of calorie dense foods, lack of proper infrastructure that encourages physical activity, lack of physical education, lack of public communication.
 
Is he going to go after the corn syrup being injected into everything and over-consumption of red meat by Americans?
I would assume so. He's spoke out against seed oils and harmful food coloring.
 
But then that becomes a conspiracy paid for by drug companies... the anti-vaxxer will make it so they never have to accept reality. Just keep their own small circle of people chatting on it non-stop.
That’s fine with me- but they shouldn’t be dictating policy.

I know that birds aren’t real, they are government surveillance drones. The ones we shoot and see have bio-matter inside are plants and meant to be shot so that the robot ones can get away.

So put me in charge of the fish and wildlife department!
 
Increased access to hyper-palatable junk foods and increased portion sizes both of which leads to overconsumption, deliberate advertisement and availability of calorie dense foods, lack of proper infrastructure that encourages physical activity, lack of physical education, lack of public communication.

The decimation of comprehensive physical education at the scholastic level. Check out these studs from JFK's reform of PE in the US:



Now of course this was an effort to manufacture soldiers, but it wasnt a terrible idea. Then parents of lazy whiny brats started to complain to school boards.
 
- The absurd working hours they have in america, lack of working regulations protecting them. Certainly contributes for the bad health. How the hell ia someone that works 80 hours a week, find time to exercise?

Is this guy going against the bilionaire suplement industry? Several suplements guys have in america, cant be sould here. And isnt because they work, like some people preach. @Sinister can atest that!
That's another good point. It all ties together really. When you're overworked, underpaid, don't sleep enough and stressed out you tend to develop bad habits.

Imagine if healthy foods were subsidised to lower prices, portion sizes in fastfood places were regulated, physical education was communicated to the public, infrastructure was rebuild to include bike lanes and walking paths, wages were increased, universal healthcare was implemented and workers had 6 weeks of paid vacation and sick leave. The crazy thing is, it would hardly make a dent in the budget and rich people would still be ultra rich.

We have all that here in Scandinavia and no one thinks twice about it.
 
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what more do you want?

One of them is a pediatrician and Ivy League educated professor on the subject of health and wellness, the other one is missing portions of their brains from worm rot.
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what more do you want?

One of them is a pediatrician and Ivy League educated professor on the subject of health and wellness, the other one is missing portions of their brains from worm rot.
One of them is in great shape and looks healthy, the other one is confused about basic human anatomy and could skip the fast food stores a bit more.
 
That's another good point. It all ties together really. When you're overworked, underpaid, don't sleep enough and stressed out you tend to develop bad habits.

Imagine if healthy food were subsidised to lower prices, portion sizes in fastfood places were regulated, physical education was communicated to the public, infrastructure was rebuild to include bike lanes and walking paths, wages were increased, universal healthcare was implemented and workers had 6 weeks of paid vacation and sick leave. The crazy thing is, it would hardly make a dent in the budget and rich people would still be ultra rich.

We have all that here in Scandinavia and no one thinks twice about it.
Sounds good to me.
 
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One of them is in great shape and looks healthy, the other one is confused about basic human anatomy and could skip the fast food stores a bit more.
Right on. You can find a sexy 22 year old bartender stud at a CrossFit gym to be your physician. For an extra 10 bucks he’ll examine you shirtless.
 
I wasn’t familiar with that. Did she say that?

I haven’t been able to find that quote from her. Here is a case with a quote from her about a child that had an underlying disorder that causes symptoms similar to autism. It’s was ruled that the vaccine could have exacerbated her condition.

Julie Gerberding, who heads the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said, "The government has made absolutely no statement indicating that vaccines are a cause of autism."

"That is a complete mischaracterization of the findings of the case and a complete mischaracterization of any of the science that we have at our disposal today."


 
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One of them is in great shape and looks healthy, the other one is confused about basic human anatomy and could skip the fast food stores a bit more.
As much as I disagree with current politics, I have to say that the optics of hiring someone that is obese as the secretary of health and human services are pretty terrible. That person may or may not have the credentials and be good at their job, but it just doesn't aspire confidence to the average citizen. I don't think JFK looks healthy either though.
I would assume so. He's spoke out against seed oils and harmful food coloring.
Remove seed oils, fructose and food coloring and it would make no difference at all.
 
As much as I disagree with current politics, I have to say that the optics of hiring someone that is obese as the secretary of health and human services are pretty terrible. That person may or may not have the credentials and be good at their job, but it just doesn't aspire confidence to the average citizen.

Remove seed oils, fructose and food coloring and it would make no difference at all.
Bull fucking shit.
 
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