"Revolution possible when whites become minority"

[Amerikuracana]

And they have shown they can make ome of the most unjust laws on earth, maybe its not genetics but culture that needs to be preserved.

Culture is a representation of a groups genetic disposition when left alone. If you think Africans are going to move to Japan, and maintain that system after a couple generations without any Japanese people, you are literally retarded. Oh, and what you said is racist.

And "unjust laws?" Yeah, Boko Haram doesn't make "laws" to harm other people, they just hack through with machetes and rape and kidnap. Native American Tribes didn't make "laws" to take land from other tribes, they just hacked at each other with weapons.

Preserving race isn't the most important thing to me, personally. Hell, I might have a kid with black girl someday, I find many of them attractive enough to have sex with. But if you like European culture, you are going to have to have Europeans. Let's check out South Africa in 20 years.

 

[Rod1]

Culture is a representation of a groups genetic disposition when left alone. If you think Africans are going to move to Japan, and maintain that system after a couple generations without any Japanese people, you are literally retarded. Oh, and what you said is racist. And "unjust laws." Yeh, Boko Haram doesn't make "laws" to harm other people, they just hack through with machetes and rape and kidnap. Native American Tribes didn't make "laws" to take land from other tribes, they just hacked at each other with weapons.

Preserving race isn't the most important thing to me, personally. Hell, I might have a kid with black girl someday, I find many of them attractive enough to have sex with. But if you like European culture, you are going to have to have Europeans. Let's check out South Africa in 20 years.

Culture is not something carried in the genes, dont be that kind of guy.

I dont see what the whole move africans to europe exercise means, its not carried by genes or geography either.

Similar geography and similar genetics have produced completely different outcomes in all parts of the world, the whole "when left alone" clutch you point out also kills any debate. We would basically degenerate in an argument where white people are naturally good but X influence made them bad and black people are naturally bad but X influence made them good when pointing out different scenarios.

 

[IDL]

Culture is not something carried in the genes, dont be that kind of guy.

I dont see what the whole move africans to europe exercise means, its not carried by genes or culture either.

Similar geography and similar genetics have produced completely different outcomes in all parts of the world, the whole "when left alone" clutch you point out also kills any debate.

We would basically degenerate in an argument where white people are naturally good by X influence made them bad and black people are naturally bad but X influence made them good when pointing out different scenarios.

It isn't necessarily in the genetic code, but ancestry and connection to past experiences and history creates a sort of 'carrying the torch' effect.

If you replace population A with population B, it will change things because population B is less likely to want to carry the torch of population A. They will want to carry their own moreso.

 

[Islam Imamate]

It isn't necessarily in the genetic code, but ancestry and connection to past experiences and history creates a sort of 'carrying the torch' effect.

If you replace population A with population B, it will change things because population B is less likely to want to carry the torch of population A. They will want to carry their own moreso.

I see what you're saying but you can assimilate foreign populations, the US has a decent track record there. Obviously we still have distinct groups here but over time some have generally faded. You almost never hear about German Americans nowadays but they were a pretty distinct community back in the day and they were in the spotlight during the World Wars. There were a bunch of German language newspapers and a consciousness of German ancestry that I don't think exists today.

 

[IDL]

I see what you're saying but you can assimilate foreign populations, the US has a decent track record there. Obviously we still have distinct groups here but over time some have generally faded. You almost never hear about German Americans nowadays but they were a pretty distinct community back in the day and they were in the spotlight during the World Wars. There were a bunch of German language newspapers and a consciousness of German ancestry that I don't think exists today.

Yeah I agree with that, although the process of assimilation produces a more universalized outcome. The end result is a change to all populations as they merge together.

But of course the volume and speed of change affects the degree. Also the level of accommodation provided by the host population.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Yeah I agree with that, although the process of assimilation produces a more universalized outcome. The end result is a change to all populations as they merge together.

But of course the volume and speed of change affects the degree. Also the level of accommodation provided by the host population.

Its easier if the culture that's being assimilate into is based around a more universal, civic identity instead of an ethnic one. This is where I think the US has a big advantage over the Europeans. Its true that the WASPs thought themselves the true Americans for a time but this country had a diverse group of Europeans from the get go and the core identity wasn't inherently tied to that ethnic identity the way Germany is to ethnic Germans or the French are to ethnic Frenchman. It seems the Europeans realized this and decided the best course of action was to allow immigrants to retain their cultures while having access to citizenship and to me that was a mistake. All of your citizens need to be committed to a common community, or at least that should be the ideal. This notion that housing separate and completely different communities together and expecting everyone to get along or agree on fundamental values was a mistake.

If you're not going to push for integration and assimilation then don't let the immigrants become citizens in the first place. Use some temporary workers program like the Gulf states do. Their foreign worker population composes the vast majority of their population but because they define citizenship so rigidly along religious and ethnic lines it helps those countries retain their core identity. Europe is having trouble doing the same with a much smaller population of foreigners. Part of this is, well, Europeans actually care about human rights and justice and equality. But I don't think those values necessarily meant ending up in the mess they are in now.

 

[Metusalemi]

You make it sound like white people are being taken to the slaughter house.

That's the only way you understand genocide?

 

[Rod1]

It isn't necessarily in the genetic code, but ancestry and connection to past experiences and history creates a sort of 'carrying the torch' effect.

If you replace population A with population B, it will change things because population B is less likely to want to carry the torch of population A. They will want to carry their own moreso.

Thats why cultural supremacy is very important.

I dont believe in racial supremacy, but i certainly believe about cultural supremacy.

 

[Rod1]

That's the only way you understand genocide?

Genocide

1.

the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial,political, or cultural group.

Adding coffee to your milk is not genocide.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Thats why cultural supremacy is very important.

I dont believe in racial supremacy, but i certainly believe about cultural supremacy.

I agree with you but I draw the line at cultural imperialism. If you're an immigrant coming to the UK or France then you have to assimilate. But I don't think imposing cultural values on other nations and peoples is the right thing to do even from a pragmatic POV since it can lead to a nativist reaction that ultimately leads to the exact opposite of what you wanted. Which is what I believe was a big reason behind the rise of movements like Salafism or the Muslim Brotherhood.

Which is not to say that cultural exchange can't or shouldn't happen because it can, it will, and in many cases should. But it should happen more organically. Through academia or through diaspora or through trade and commerce, not directly top down from governments foreign or domestic or at the barrel of a gun.

 

[RespectableDenizen]

It's not because of culture though, we share the same culture. I mean technically the religion is different, but most people are only nominally religious. The conflict isn't about different religious teachings, I would bet 95% Serbs and Croats don't even know the difference between Orthodoxy and Catholicism.

You guys have a culture that doesn't get along with other cultures, no matter how similar, I guess. I had a Croatian friend that would insult Serbs and when I asked why, he couldn't explain why.

 

[Rod1]

I agree with you but I draw the line at cultural imperialism. If you're an immigrant coming to the UK or France then you have to assimilate. But I don't think imposing cultural values on other nations and peoples is the right thing to do even from a pragmatic POV since it can lead to a nativist reaction that ultimately leads to the exact opposite of what you wanted. Which is what I believe was a big reason behind the rise of movements like Salafism or the Muslim Brotherhood.

Which is not to say that cultural exchange can't or shouldn't happen because it can, it will, and in many cases should. But it should happen more organically. Through academia or through diaspora or through trade and commerce, not directly top down from governments foreign or domestic or at the barrel of a gun.

Of course, when i talk about cultural supremacy i dont talk about the Romans destroying the celtic religion or Mao cultural revolution.

Im talking more about a free exchange of ideas grounded on freedom of speech.

 

[mygoddotcom]

There really are no-go zones?
I walked around without any maps and just enjoyed the city.
There was this huge FOX scare report about Paris, a little earlier than when I went.
I went into some neighborhoods where there were obviously mostly Muslim people and I enjoyed their falafel roll.
That was about it, really.

Wow, such a brave and lucky individual....

 

[Luger]

Wow, such a brave and lucky individual....

That is not the point.
I just wandered around and saw no threat, as the news acted like it was a war zone.

 

[panamaican]

Culture is a representation of a groups genetic disposition when left alone. If you think Africans are going to move to Japan, and maintain that system after a couple generations without any Japanese people, you are literally retarded. Oh, and what you said is racist.

And "unjust laws?" Yeah, Boko Haram doesn't make "laws" to harm other people, they just hack through with machetes and rape and kidnap. Native American Tribes didn't make "laws" to take land from other tribes, they just hacked at each other with weapons.

Preserving race isn't the most important thing to me, personally. Hell, I might have a kid with black girl someday, I find many of them attractive enough to have sex with. But if you like European culture, you are going to have to have Europeans. Let's check out South Africa in 20 years.

Gotta disagree. A lot of what you call European culture is just Roman culture and Rome hasn't been a cultural or racial hotbed for centuries. We've preserved large swathes of Roman (and Greek) culture without ever relying on actual Romans or Greeks.

For illustration, just look at how much of our law still has Latin roots. Or the Romance languages.

 

[Bald1]

You guys have a culture that doesn't get along with other cultures, no matter how similar, I guess. I had a Croatian friend that would insult Serbs and when I asked why, he couldn't explain why.

That part of the world is strange. We're so intermixed, and share a long history, but also act like alienated loved ones.

 

[Cuzcatlan]

That's the only way you understand genocide?

Genocide?

 

[IDL]

Its easier if the culture that's being assimilate into is based around a more universal, civic identity instead of an ethnic one. This is where I think the US has a big advantage over the Europeans. Its true that the WASPs thought themselves the true Americans for a time but this country had a diverse group of Europeans from the get go and the core identity wasn't inherently tied to that ethnic identity the way Germany is to ethnic Germans or the French are to ethnic Frenchman. It seems the Europeans realized this and decided the best course of action was to allow immigrants to retain their cultures while having access to citizenship and to me that was a mistake. All of your citizens need to be committed to a common community, or at least that should be the ideal. This notion that housing separate and completely different communities together and expecting everyone to get along or agree on fundamental values was a mistake.

If you're not going to push for integration and assimilation then don't let the immigrants become citizens in the first place. Use some temporary workers program like the Gulf states do. Their foreign worker population composes the vast majority of their population but because they define citizenship so rigidly along religious and ethnic lines it helps those countries retain their core identity. Europe is having trouble doing the same with a much smaller population of foreigners. Part of this is, well, Europeans actually care about human rights and justice and equality. But I don't think those values necessarily meant ending up in the mess they are in now.

I agree from the perspective of building up a strong nation. It would only be a mistake to create divisions under that context.

I don't see it as a mistake at all though considering how heavily promoted it is, and how basic this is. Thousands of years of empire behind these decisions, it is clearly no mistake.

Creating divisions deliberately is a tactic of empire designed to weaken populations for easier exploitation and management (among other things). I think it's obvious that this is what it's about and the 'mistakes' are not mistakes at all.

 

[panamaican]

Genocide?

To be fair, it would explain the cuckolding fetish that keeps coming up.

 

[IDL]

Genocide

1.

the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial,political, or cultural group.

Adding coffee to your milk is not genocide.

The question is if the following would fall under genocide, or some other word:

group A deliberately implements policy to erase group B using demographics engineering (mass migrations, birth rate supression tactics, and intermixing promotion). Purpose being to eliminate the group not through violence, but for the same reasons as historical genocides.

So if someone wanted to erase the concept of an ethnic Japanese person they could employ these strategies to do that and 'The Japanese' would be essentially eliminated.