Retiring means you're no longer available for USADA testing.

[manboy<3]

It's a fact that GSP's mentality was always to get the biggest possible advantage over other fighters

- Fight boring and safe
- Grease it up
- Make sure you have a big weight advanatage

I don't know if he took PEDs or not but GSP was always about playing it smart and making money

 

[Ginn]

That's a crock of shit and you know it. Everyone knew that GSP was going to retire after that fight he had a "special announcement to make", he basically did it in the octagon after he won. Unless you're saying he knew USDA was coming after that fight so he relinquished his title. that's purely speculative, and i cannot comment on that.

Lol wtf is this???


He left years before USADA was even an idea, in fact he left because he advocated for OOC testing by a 3rd party and the UFC laughed at him.

He advocated for what exactly? OOC testing in his last fight, the ones his nuthuggers claim he knew was his last fight?

So he wanted stricter testing but after he retired, haha.

By the way GSP did duck USADA and all his nuthuggers can say is this:

Lmao, Okay.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

GSP was pushing for more testing the entire time he was in the ufc and dana white shit on him for it

 

[Deleted member 491001]

except thats not a potential loophole.. did you even read it?

If you offiically notify USADA you've retired, you then need to be back in the testing pool for a full FOUR MONTHS before you can fight again..

therefore, loophole is closed.


If Conor officially notifies USADA hes retired.....

Then when he returns he will have to go through four months of testing before he can fight

the article was leeched from combat law guys who a lot recently have been making a clusterfuck of interpreting the ufc anti doping policy

You must have missed all the hubbub a while back...

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-24730151

Asserts and demonstrates that benefits of steroid use can last up to 10 years.

Quote from article:

"They found that three months after the drug was withdrawn, their muscles grew by 30% after six days of exercise. A control group of mice saw growth of just 6% in the same time period."

I believe there have been more recent followup publications on the specifics of effects regarding the physiology of humans as well.

This was 2013 dude, where the fuck you been? I remember you being someone who stays pretty up on this stuff, no?

Edit: ignore the last paragraph, thought you were drug tzar for some reason

 

[CatchnShoot]

There is nothing like acting like you're innocent by blaming others.

Purely eye-test, but Hendricks sure doesn't look like Georges.

If I was taking PEDs, and I looked like Johny - I'd want whatever Georges is on.

You can't buy genetics, sister. (well, you can, but the available attributes are slim, and it's pricey).

Interesting that you'd pick Hendricks as your example, since he has looked much weaker, and pretty much sucked balls since stricter testing has been enacted.
I agree, I think he (Hendricks) was on the Vitamin S.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

Lol wtf is this???


He left years before USADA was even an idea, in fact he left because he advocated for OOC testing by a 3rd party and the UFC laughed at him.

Well, that is debatable.

USADA went live 2015, he retired in 2013. Pretty sure there was a least some rumblings of them making this agreement back then. Anyone who's worked in the corporate world knows that these huge implementations don't come about overnight.

Also, why didn't he just do the VADA testing himself? Seeming as he was so hell-bent on proving he was clean?

 

[piepie]

4 months? The fuck? Usada is a joke. When they return. Just test them immediately and let them fight 30 days later. No big deal. USADA is terrible.

@ Dimspace, Hmmm im a noob but did GSP officially retire and if not was GSP still being tested post Hendricks fight??

 

[Rizzo]

If this holds will this conspiracy go down in history as the Michael Jordan of MMA conspiracy?


Rumors for years have been that MJ did not "retire" from basketball and instead was serving a secret suspension from the NBA for gambling.

 

[FlyingKimurabar]

@ flyingK, i like your thinking!!! i know dimspace knows his stuff, but yeah vegas/nevada has bad luck written all over it. peeps that visit Nevada usually get tested. wasnt sonnen tested in nevada when he was there visiting with helwani???

I also believe FlyingK that your way of reasoning isnt completely off...

There is literally no other logical reason for Conor to suddenly retire.

Death of the guy in Ireland? I doubt if he was so devastated by that his goodbye tweet would be " retiring young thanks for the cheese! "

Contract dispute? No way he's passing up the biggest card in UFC history and by far his biggest payday over a contract dispute. This fight might double his net worth. They'd both settle the dispute, way too much on the line.

Zero chance the UFC is pulling Conor from the biggest night of the company's history because he wouldn't attend a press conference.

 

[mikesalami]

You do not look like he does without something being put into you.

That's a bit of a ridiculous statement. He's ripped, but he doesn't have an amount of muscle that you can't put on naturally, especially while using something like creatine or other legal substances. He's just extremely cut (i.e. low body fat), which also isn't a sign of using something banned.

 

[justblaze717]

His gut looks like those "clean" crossfit gals.

No lie the first thing that came to mind when I saw that pic was this crossfit girl named Annie Thorisdottir. She posted a pic a few weeks ago and she has that HGH gut bad. Does crossfit drug test?

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

You can't buy genetics, sister. (well, you can, but the available attributes are slim, and it's pricey).

Interesting that you'd pick Hendricks as your example, since he has looked much weaker, and pretty much sucked balls since stricter testing has been enacted.
I agree, I think he (Hendricks) was on the Vitamin S.

Johny has "sucked balls" with wins over:

Robbie Lawler twice, and Matt Brown.

Man, you lose to a amazing striking, whilst being in the best physical condition of your career and that means you were on steroids all along, eh? USADA has made Hendricks shitty?

What a load of shite.

 

[Cage917r]

I may get banned one day for "fighter bashing" but I refuse to ignore obvious stuff.

Georges has taken something. Sometime in his career, he has been on something which is classified as a PED. If I could somehow guarantee that I'd get the truth out of him, I would bet the house on it.

You do not look like he does without something being put into you. Definitely doesn't help looking like that and having so many wins that you are a perennial "greatest of all time" candidate.

"Retires" the minute USADA comes into play. Makes a million excuses about not wanting to come back, including one of the excuses being "USADA is good, but it's still not good enough".

Now he's magically returning, and nobody is suspecting that he's essentially had 2 free years to dope the fuck out of himself.

None of this is proven fact, but it's my opinion.

Georges is suspect as fuck!

Yes. The guy who always wanted random testing for his fights and said he wanted the sport cleaned up if he was to return was on the juice the whole time. The moon landing was always shot in a movie studio and Hitler isn't dead.

 

[Ginn]

GSP was pushing for more testing the entire time he was in the ufc and dana white shit on him for it

No, he "pushed" for random testing in the fight his nuthuggers claimed to be his last. That is a fact. He tried doing it with Condit behind the scenes, Condit responded with doing testing with USADA, and GSp ran away.

 

[Sid Arthur]

Anything to prevent every fighter from retiring between every fight?

There seems to be no consequence to un-retiring.

 

[airic_15]

I may get banned one day for "fighter bashing" but I refuse to ignore obvious stuff.

Georges has taken something. Sometime in his career, he has been on something which is classified as a PED. If I could somehow guarantee that I'd get the truth out of him, I would bet the house on it.

You do not look like he does without something being put into you. Definitely doesn't help looking like that and having so many wins that you are a perennial "greatest of all time" candidate.

"Retires" the minute USADA comes into play. Makes a million excuses about not wanting to come back, including one of the excuses being "USADA is good, but it's still not good enough".

Now he's magically returning, and nobody is suspecting that he's essentially had 2 free years to dope the fuck out of himself.

None of this is proven fact, but it's my opinion.

Georges is suspect as fuck!

Is that you Nick? Instead of saying it's impossible to look like gsp without " vitamins" try it your self. That what I did I was 130 skinny with bad genetics and now I'm 175 low bf and did it while being poor and total of 250 pounds of weights. If I can personally do that I now know it's possible for someone like gsp to look like he does naturally.

People like you will never believe anyone who is jacked natural because you've never put in the hard work.

 

[VitorReem]

Ready to do it... but it never happened.

Also, eye-test worked for the below:

Belfort
Romero
Overeem
Lombard

Eye-test works, it's not 100%, it's perhaps not even 80%, but it does work to some degree when you know what you're looking for.

You have no idea what you're talking about or looking at. I'll throw down 5k cash anytime anywhere in nj that you can't pick 1 out of 10 dudes from a lineup that's juicing. You just don't understand that people have different genetics, work ethic, & eating habits. There are natural guys that look 10x more jacked than anybody you listed and juiced up guys that look like fucking shit.

Pathetic.

 

[Hardkore]

So you are saying Conor retired so he can miss UFC 200, juice himself out of his mind for a while, tell them he's unretiring, wait 4 more months in which he will likely be tested again, and then fight?

Edit: just saw the UFC can make exceptions part. Lmao shouldn't it be USADA who makes that exception???

No dude, the top guys in any sport can afford the best doctors and medical team to see if they will pass drug screening. If you "retire" you can avoid possible positive result and the subsequent suspensions and fines that go with it.

 

[Sid Arthur]

Yes. The guy who always wanted random testing for his fights and said he wanted the sport cleaned up if he was to return was on the juice the whole time. The moon landing was always shot in a movie studio and Hitler isn't dead.

Surely Hitler died in Argentina by now.

 

[Ginn]

Yes. The guy who always wanted random testing for his fights and said he wanted the sport cleaned up if he was to return was on the juice the whole time. The moon landing was always shot in a movie studio and Hitler isn't dead.

So where was thisd push for random testing against his fights with BJ Penn? Can you show me any evidence you moron.