Retiring means you're no longer available for USADA testing.

[The Natural Born Runner]

His allegedly HGH gut always intrigued me.

Alongside the fact he literally has no body fat, has a permanent 6-pack/8-pack even after going down with the ACL.

That gut, is not normal!

To the naked eye, it looks odd, then you go onto bodybuilding forums and see that everyone calls it out as a clear sign of HGH use - they talk, I listen.

I don't listen to bias GSP fanboys.

 

[My Spot]

You've gotta love the irony of Pride fanboys accusing GSP of PED use.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

GSP ducked testing his entire career except one fight. Why didn't he want additional testing when other were accusing him way back then.. why wait until your last fight?

Also he literally ducked USADA testing in his fight with Condit.

I love your opinion haha.

 

[My Spot]

Alongside the fact he literally has no body fat, has a permanent 6-pack/8-pack even after going down with the ACL.

That gut, is not normal! To the naked eye, it looks odd, then you go onto bodybuilding forums and see that everyone calls it out as a clear sign of HGH use - they talk, I listen.

I don't listen to bias GSP fanboys.

So then why are you afraid to say what you really wanna say? Was GSP using PEDs or not? Don't be scared homie.

 

[ClosetVitorFan]

except thats not a potential loophole.. did you even read it?

If you offiically notify USADA you've retired, you then need to be back in the testing pool for a full FOUR MONTHS before you can fight again..

therefore, loophole is closed.


If Conor officially notifies USADA hes retired.....

Then when he returns he will have to go through four months of testing before he can fight

the article was leeched from combat law guys who a lot recently have been making a clusterfuck of interpreting the ufc anti doping policy

4 months? The fuck? Usada is a joke. When they return. Just test them immediately and let them fight 30 days later. No big deal. USADA is terrible.

 

[Meathead Jock]

There is nothing like acting like you're innocent by blaming others.

Purely eye-test, but Hendricks sure doesn't look like Georges.

If I was taking PEDs, and I looked like Johny - I'd want whatever Georges is on.

If you want to go that route, GSP probably has taken something at some point, but i'd bet my house on GSP being clean vs Hendricks, and its why he didn't look as sharp. Hendricks on the other hand, has looked worse after that fight once testing went into effect.

 

[zephid]

Ready to do it... but it never happened.

Also, eye-test worked for the below:

Belfort
Romero
Overeem
Lombard

Eye-test works, it's not 100%, it's perhaps not even 80%, but it does work to some degree when you know what you're looking for.

But it didn't work for Royce Gracie, Tim Sylvia, Josh Barnett, Chris Leben etc. In most cases the "eye-test" is no more accurate than just straight up guessing.

 

[1Shot1Stroke]

Also GSP is not a "BIG" guy, he's very muscular but not every thick.

 

[FlyingKimurabar]

except thats not a potential loophole.. did you even read it?

If you offiically notify USADA you've retired, you then need to be back in the testing pool for a full FOUR MONTHS before you can fight again..

therefore, loophole is closed.


If Conor officially notifies USADA hes retired.....

Then when he returns he will have to go through four months of testing before he can fight

the article was leeched from combat law guys who a lot recently have been making a clusterfuck of interpreting the ufc anti doping policy

First, you're reading comprehension is awful. The UFC can wave the 4 month period if they want. Second, the whole point of retiring now is so he doesn't test dirty now. When he comes back he can be clean.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

GSP's physique is definitely obtainable naturally. I don't know how you could think that's beyond natural.

It's tough to believe when I'm 214 lbs, with some body fat. If I drained myself down to 185, I'd be shredded - if I then decided to pile the water and hydration back on, I wouldn't be 210lbs lean, bulky and shredded to tee.

The man walks around at 195-200lbs with complete bulk and muscle, very little fat. Dehydrates himself down to 170, and then hydrates back up to 190-195 for fight night and loses no definition. The guy looks like a cyborg.

Just suspect to me... and then that belly lol.

 

[raconnor]

you then need to be back in the testing pool for a full FOUR MONTHS before you can fight again..

there are exceptions though, right?

if gsp and the ufc made a deal today for him to fight at UFC 200, usada won't stop that from happening i imagine

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

Also GSP is not a "BIG" guy, he's very muscular but not every thick.

You're comparing him to another stocky, muscular WW.

Compare him to Condit, Diaz, Shields (who was a damn MW), Fitch, Hardy etc. he is much bulkier and muscular than them.

Alves is the one guy who was pretty bulky himself, and being short, it was a lot more noticeable.

 

[My Spot]

It's tough to believe when I'm 214 lbs, with some body fat. If I drained myself down to 185, I'd be shredded - if I then decided to pile the water and hydration back on, I wouldn't be 210lbs lean, bulky and shredded to tee.

The man walks around at 195-200lbs with complete bulk and muscle, very little fat. Dehydrates himself down to 170, and then hydrates back up to 190-195 for fight night and loses no definition. The guy looks like a cyborg.

Just suspect to me... and then that belly lol.

Why are you afraid to say what you really wanna say? Don't be scared homie.

 

[dim_]

First, you're reading comprehension is awful. The UFC can wave the 4 month period if they want. Second, the whole point of retiring now is so he doesn't test dirty now. When he comes back he can be clean.

Its waive....

And has he officially notified the UFC and USADA in writing of his retirement? Clearly not as Dana states hes no idea if Conor has retired.
Second, its not retroactive so any samples collected prior to USADA getting his notice in writing still count
THird, the 4 month period is only waived in Exceptional circumstances.. retiring, then deciding a month later to unretire is not an exceptional circumstance.

its not a loophole, we see the same rule applied through all olympic level sport.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

So then why are you afraid to say what you really wanna say? Was GSP using PEDs or not? Don't be scared homie.

I already said I'd bet the house on it.

 

[Team Sleep]

I may get banned one day for "fighter bashing" but I refuse to ignore obvious stuff.

Georges has taken something. Sometime in his career, he has been on something which is classified as a PED. If I could somehow guarantee that I'd get the truth out of him, I would bet the house on it.

You do not look like he does without something being put into you. Definitely doesn't help looking like that and having so many wins that you are a perennial "greatest of all time" candidate.

"Retires" the minute USADA comes into play. Makes a million excuses about not wanting to come back, including one of the excuses being "USADA is good, but it's still not good enough".

Now he's magically returning, and nobody is suspecting that he's essentially had 2 free years to dope the fuck out of himself.

None of this is proven fact, but it's my opinion.

Georges is suspect as fuck!

GSP never retired.

 

[Rubberchin]

After pouring over the details of the USADA paperwork, they've highlighted three potential loopholes for fighters still looking to stay on the juice in this new, harsher reality. The first potential loophole, retirement. As stated in section 5.7.1:

"An Athlete who gives notice of retirement to UFC, or has otherwise ceased to have a contractual relationship with UFC, may not resume competing in UFC bouts until he/she has given UFC written notice of his.her intent to resume competing and has made him/herself available for Testing for a period of four months before returning to competition. UFC may grant an exemption to the four-month written notice rule in exceptional circumstances or where the strict application of that rule would be manifestly unfair to an Athlete."

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/6/2...s-usada-rules-retirement-steroid-use-mma-news

Mate, give it a rest. This has nothing to do with USADA.

 

[dim_]

there are exceptions though, right?

if gsp and the ufc made a deal today for him to fight at UFC 200, usada won't stop that from happening i imagine

its getting pretty late... under 2 months im not sure USADA would buy it.. they need to really get a move on.. I cant see the 4 month being waived for such a high profile athlete much below about 2 months

(2 months out from the fight being when most out of competition testing is beginning so is a good marker point to compare against)

 

[My Spot]

I already said I'd bet the house on it.

So just come out and say it then. "GSP used PEDs." Don't be scared, homie.

 

[RockyLockridge]

i wish we could discuss

Georges is suspect as fuck!

Sorry but no. George Has been on record to retire because there was no USDA testing he wanted usda testing, and advocated for it. the fact that he may return speaks volumes on the situation.

Maybe he has used in the past? who knows.