Reem was blatantly using PED's during the USADA era

[Miokink026]

We have all speculated that fighters are still on cycles(because they are) during the USADA era, but had to take a little more precaution compared to the older testing style, which is taken around fight week. Fighters had to be smarter about cycling on and off and timing things to minimize a detection window.

Pre USADA Reem was blasting steroids, USADA reem was probably microdosing TRT and doing other things like EPO, Now that he is retired and downsizing, we can see what a truly natty Reem looks like.

Ubereem(2008-2012)

Econoreem(2013-2021)

Natty retired Reem(2021-Present)(Right picture is late Econoreem)

Pretty clear cut case opf PED abuse when you shrink that much post retirement. Most natural fighters actually get bigger when they retire because they aren't doing all the cardio they were doing as a fighter.

Or, hesr me out, he stopped training like an elite athlete, and is training for health?

no one is saying he didn't use steroids. OF COURSE HE DID. Post UFC Overeem, thr one that fought Badr, made UFC Reem looked soft and lazy, and UFC Reems physique was just as good as Ngannous. However, taking a picture of an athlete post retirement really doesn't mean anything.

 

[HHJ]

He actually looks like he may have some sort of health issues now, to me.

He looks emaciated.

I think thats why he went Vegan

 

[mkt]

He was cheating but wasn’t on as much as he used to be

Exactly. There are levels to cheating. Overeem bulked up from LHW to a guy who cut from 280 in a few years in his late 20s (pretty late for puberty). He did this in organizations that didn't test at all (Pride) and others whose testing was a joke (Strikeforce). He skipped the test before the Lesnar fight. I've always thought that fight should've been an NC for that reason.

 

[don't ask]

Do you remember the deer antler stuff in the NFL?

lol I sure don't, but it sounds scandalous. What are the dirty details?

 

[HHJ]

Exactly. There are levels to cheating. Overeem bulked up from LHW to a guy who cut from 280 in a few years in his late 20s (pretty late for puberty). He did this in organizations that didn't test at all (Pride) and others whose testing was a joke (Strikeforce). He skipped the test before the Lesnar fight. I've always thought that fight should've been an NC for that reason.

You are right,of course,but im sure Lesnar was also on gear. I dont think he can fight without it. Other than the Hunt debacle,he never fought under USADA.

 

[AmonTobin]

I feel old.

 

[AndrewGolota48]

We have all speculated that fighters are still on cycles(because they are) during the USADA era, but had to take a little more precaution compared to the older testing style, which is taken around fight week. Fighters had to be smarter about cycling on and off and timing things to minimize a detection window.

Pre USADA Reem was blasting steroids, USADA reem was probably microdosing TRT and doing other things like EPO, Now that he is retired and downsizing, we can see what a truly natty Reem looks like.

Ubereem(2008-2012)

Econoreem(2013-2021)

Natty retired Reem(2021-Present)(Right picture is late Econoreem)

Pretty clear cut case opf PED abuse when you shrink that much post retirement. Most natural fighters actually get bigger when they retire because they aren't doing all the cardio they were doing as a fighter.

That pic isn't late Econoreem, pretty sure that was against Bigfoot so one fight removed from being Ubereem vs Brock.

 

[rottenapple]

Reems on some weird diet to cleanse himself from parasites. Hes been seeing some alternative nature healer i think.
Hes also truly done with fighting and wants to take his life in a different direction. Heard him talk about going into politics so makes sense hes not walking around looking like hes ready to kill

 

[Lee_]

Yeah, hopefully I'm wrong.

But his weight loss doesn't just look like he stopped juicing or training. It looks like what you often see when someone is battling a serious health issue.

Again, I do hope it isn't the case, but I have a weird suspicion.

I think that would be a bit too much of a coincidence. He looked fine until he quit fighting and stopped his supplementation, then suddenly looked like this.

Maintaining that huge of a muscle mass for that long with that narrow of a frame surely could have visible consequences; it wouldn't be surprising. He absolutely looked like a different guy in the UFC than he did in Pride; his frame was radically altered from steroids and stayed that way for how long.

 

[Cooliox]

Overeem still looks pretty ripped.

"Health issues"

Hey Sherbro, let's see a photo of you. You don't have to be a fat ass to look healthy

His head and jaw just seem a big bigger than it should be for that frame.

I think that has something to do with steroids, or HGH.

Otherwise, no way does Overeem look sick. He's just clearly following a different nutritional plan.

This is definitely much more healthy than having all that superficial muscle. The kidneys and liver were not made to carry that much muscle mass. It was abnormal.

Good for Reem for coming to his senses now that he no longer needs that horse-meat frame to make a living.

longevity is where it's at.

 

[MCDojoMMA]

People are always complainimg. I rather lose some weight after retirement, than blow up like rampage or dc.

 

[swimba]

NOOOOOOOOO!!!

 

[Trabaho]

Who isn't

 

[Adamant]

We have all speculated that fighters are still on cycles(because they are) during the USADA era, but had to take a little more precaution compared to the older testing style, which is taken around fight week. Fighters had to be smarter about cycling on and off and timing things to minimize a detection window.

Pre USADA Reem was blasting steroids, USADA reem was probably microdosing TRT and doing other things like EPO, Now that he is retired and downsizing, we can see what a truly natty Reem looks like.

Ubereem(2008-2012)

Econoreem(2013-2021)

Natty retired Reem(2021-Present)(Right picture is late Econoreem)

Pretty clear cut case opf PED abuse when you shrink that much post retirement. Most natural fighters actually get bigger when they retire because they aren't doing all the cardio they were doing as a fighter.

PEDs are good in sports, not bad. Damn USADA for taking Ubereem from us.

 

[RonDante]

Really? Wow didn’t know that

 

[HuskySamoan]

lol I sure don't, but it sounds scandalous. What are the dirty details?

It had like small natural HGH type properties but wasn't a banned substance so dudes started using it in like absurd quantities and they had to ban it.

 

[listrahtes]

I think thats why he went Vegan

The other way around. he looks haunted and unhealthy because he went vegan and some idiotic fruit diet. For non religious people nutrition is the new religion and they will approach it as mindfucked as religious people with beliefs and not facts.

We have a real problem now in our capital with mentally underdeveloped children because parents force vegan diet on them which leads to horrific developmental pathologies.

 

[HHJ]

The other way around. he looks haunted and unhealthy because he went vegan and some idiotic fruit diet. For non religious people nutrition is the new religion and they will approach it as mindfucked as religious people with beliefs and not facts.

We have a real problem now in our capital with mentally underdeveloped children because parents force vegan diet on them which leads to horrific developmental pathologies.

He could probably have heart problems from all the roids he did,and was told to eat healthier,and lose mass.

 

[tritestill]

Groundbreaking, riveting, explosive thread

 

[BFoe]

Exactly. There are levels to cheating. Overeem bulked up from LHW to a guy who cut from 280 in a few years in his late 20s (pretty late for puberty). He did this in organizations that didn't test at all (Pride) and others whose testing was a joke (Strikeforce). He skipped the test before the Lesnar fight. I've always thought that fight should've been an NC for that reason.

Strikeforce’s testing wasn’t any different than the testing that finally busted Overeem. They used commission testing only, just like the UFC did in 2012 when Reem finally popped. Overeem never had a single USADA violation that I can recall, it was NSAC that caught him. UFC hadn’t started working with USADA yet when Reem popped.