Reem was blatantly using PED's during the USADA era

He made it to the top of kickboxing and MMA without roids, so adding roids really put him over the top. Most people need roids to climb as high as he did naturally.

lol

but it doesn't even matter because just about everybody is using PEDs anyways
 
Do people still know nothing about drug testing? Do you actually think any professional sports are clean? Or even remotely?
Motherfuckers started using butt plugs for pro chess. Not even kidding.
Competitors will often cheat.
 
Yeah way too many people think USADA = no PEDs. These anti doping agencies make it harder for most of the roster (who are all poor) to get away with cheating, but those with money can get past it with steroids they don't test for.

Counter point: Jones.
 
He shrank a lot and gained bodyfat once USADA came along.
 
the guys frame is not that big...but his genetics for putting on muscle were elite. looks like an action figure

He had the perfect frame for a very aesthetic physique. Full muscle bellies and small joints. Gave that crazy action figure look, like you said.
 
What? Why? Haha, does it help with concentration or something?

Nah, it's not a thing. A low-ranked guy (caught cheating before) beat a high-ranked guy and the high-ranked guy accused the winner of cheating with a Smart Buttplug, supposedly receiving vibrating messages from an accomplice. Never actually happened, though.
 
Welp, he was still chinny toward the end, so again, peds, arent an invincibility star from super mario bros. We can stop with the cheating tears.

That cracked me up - and it is true. People have the wrong idea if they think that taking PEDs makes you look like Arnold or "no known weaknesses"-era Vitor, when in fact, Josh Barnett is probably more representative of a typical PED user. PEDs won't make you iron-jawed if you're glass-jawed, or give you a bodybuilder physique if you don't have the genetics for it. They will give you faster recovery and loads of other benefits, though.
 
Yeah, hopefully I'm wrong.

But his weight loss doesn't just look like he stopped juicing or training. It looks like what you often see when someone is battling a serious health issue.

Again, I do hope it isn't the case, but I have a weird suspicion.
Yeah he looks sick to me, hope I'm wrong.
 
Nah, it's not a thing. A low-ranked guy (caught cheating before) beat a high-ranked guy and the high-ranked guy accused the winner of cheating with a Smart Buttplug, supposedly receiving vibrating messages from an accomplice. Never actually happened, though.

Do you remember the deer antler stuff in the NFL?
 
What? Why? Haha, does it help with concentration or something?
They vibrate in X fashion according to whatever move the player was supposed to make. There's a person using computer assistance who'll transmit whatever ass pattern.
And obviously it wasn't anything anyone would've ever cared to check beforehand.
After earplugs, waistbands, wristbands etc, buttplugs.
 
Yeah no shit as does the Olympics special olympids and the para Olympic and ufc cage fighting
Ya know the gold standard of sport
 
They vibrate in X fashion according to whatever move the player was supposed to make. There's a person using computer assistance who'll transmit whatever ass pattern.
And obviously it wasn't anything anyone would've ever cared to check beforehand.
After earplugs, waistbands, wristbands etc, buttplugs.

probably the gayest thing i've heard all year

nevertheless i've known more than a few girls who use vibrators in public, were barely discreet about it as well. remember lads: girls are always horny. and if they're not, it's just because you are not that guy
 
Yeah, hopefully I'm wrong.

But his weight loss doesn't just look like he stopped juicing or training. It looks like what you often see when someone is battling a serious health issue.

Again, I do hope it isn't the case, but I have a weird suspicion.
Plus @usernamee posted he just went vegan, and a lot of ppl do that when they get very sick and are trying to experiment to find or eliminate potential triggers. Reem never struck me as a guy who wanted to stop eating meat. Prayers and good wishes sent.
 
We have all speculated that fighters are still on cycles(because they are) during the USADA era, but had to take a little more precaution compared to the older testing style, which is taken around fight week. Fighters had to be smarter about cycling on and off and timing things to minimize a detection window.

Pre USADA Reem was blasting steroids, USADA reem was probably microdosing TRT and doing other things like EPO, Now that he is retired and downsizing, we can see what a truly natty Reem looks like.

Ubereem(2008-2012)
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Econoreem(2013-2021)
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Natty retired Reem(2021-Present)(Right picture is late Econoreem)
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Pretty clear cut case opf PED abuse when you shrink that much post retirement. Most natural fighters actually get bigger when they retire because they aren't doing all the cardio they were doing as a fighter.
You do realize that Overeem fought before 2008, right? Pictures of "downsized" Overeem fighting, do exist.
 
Plus @usernamee posted he just went vegan, and a lot of ppl do that when they get very sick and are trying to experiment to find or eliminate potential triggers. Reem never struck me as a guy who wanted to stop eating meat. Prayers and good wishes sent.

vegan diets - if done right - can actually be relaxing. it's a state of mind to go with. Overeem is a guy who is financially secure, secure with himself, and with absolutely nothing to prove to anybody including himself. he doesn't need to be all jacked up on horsemeat. he can just be himself and be a father and live his live free of fighting for the first time in decades
 
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