Rampage explains how outer space is a hoax

This is pretty much nonsense, though. Just because you can't do it, it can't be done?

All you need is a few key people in a few key places to deny the public physical proof, and the word of thousands means nothing (you know, like how you guys don't accept whistleblowers or eyewitnesses as evidence).

I'm baffled how you guys can think that nothing can be kept secret, when it's obvious that classified stuff stays secret every day. NDAs are forced to be signed all of the time.

The Chinese don't have our aircraft carrier specs, for example.



So do you believe the word of the Nazis (without any evidence)?

The government went with that narrative, genius.

Not surprised you unquestionably believe it, though. Thanks for playing, science fraud.
I was just correcting facts you got wrong, again. It’s not a story or convenient lie that “daddy government” invented. Maybe you should try getting the basic right first before trying to sell us on convoluted plotlines.

The government does need to do anything to make CTers look silly or stupid. You do it to yourself
 
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Ok. If you can't be bothered to respond thoroughly I wont either.

You also came in here accusing me, if indirectly of emotionalism and going with “gut reactions”. Now I’m watching you write long posts about how you not only believe in God, but know he exists as a fact. I don’t care that you believe in God. Many intelligent scientists actually do. But you can’t come in here correcting people on their “science” and write statements like that.
 
I was just correcting facts you got wrong, again. It’s not a story or convenient lie that “daddy government” invented. Maybe you should try getting the basic right first before trying to sell us on convoluted plotlines.

The government does need to do anything to make CTers look silly or stupid. You do it to yourself

Do you believe he died in that bunker? Yes or no.

If yes, tell us why, providing all of the evidence, please. Shouldn't be too difficult for a science person.
 
Do you believe he died in that bunker? Yes or no.

If yes, tell us why, providing all of the evidence, please. Shouldn't be too difficult for a science person.
I believe it’s like 99% likely he died that day yes. I don’t know it happened for sure and this CT is a lot more believable than most of the nonsense I see you sharing on here, I’ll at least give you that. In this scenario it’s not our “big evil government” lying to you for ‘reasons’. It would be Nazis and the Soviet Union lying since our Army didn’t get their first. No one has ever claimed otherwise so I don’t know why you’re telling everyone the government is lying and covering no up Hitlers whereabouts.

If he didn’t shoot himself, then the Soviets almost definitely got him since there was over a million of them ripping Berlin apart looking for him. I don’t think they were planning to treat him nicely either.

But none of this was even about my opinions or beliefs when I quoted you. It was me pointing out that again you were getting basic information wrong
 
I believe it’s like 99% likely he died that day yes. I don’t know it happened for sure and this CT is a lot more believable than most of the nonsense I see you sharing on here, I’ll at least give you that. In this scenario it’s not our “big evil government” lying to you for ‘reasons’. It would be Nazis and the Soviet Union lying since our Army didn’t get their first. No one has ever claimed otherwise so I don’t know why you’re telling everyone the government is lying and covering no up Hitlers whereabouts.

If he didn’t shoot himself, then the Soviets almost definitely got him since there was over a million of them ripping Berlin apart looking for him. I don’t think they were planning to treat him nicely either.

But none of this was even about my opinions or beliefs when I quoted you. It was me pointing out that again you were getting basic information wrong

99% sure about something with little to no evidence. Why?

And how is that ok, while you're ITT trashing people for believing things with more evidence to support it (Bigfoot) than that?
 
99% sure about something with little to no evidence. Why?

And how is that ok, while you're ITT trashing people for believing things with more evidence to support it (Bigfoot) than that?
I’m sorry do you want me to go over all the reasons Bigfoot is clearly fake again? I feel like ive don’t that enough already.


I believe it because it’s a very plausible explanation. I know you also know that his teeth were recovered from where his body was burned (physical evidence) and I also know you’re going to go ahead and explain that away. More over, no evidence really exists to countermand this story.

Anyways, spend more time getting your facts straight next time if you want anyone to take you seriously. You’re not going to encourage anyone to investigate Hitlers death by getting basic shit wrong.
 
I’m sorry do you want me to go over all the reasons Bigfoot is clearly fake again? I feel like ive don’t that enough already.

I believe it because it’s a very plausible explanation. I know you also know that his teeth were recovered from where his body was burned (physical evidence) and I also know you’re going to go ahead and explain that away. More over, no evidence really exists to countermand this story.

Anyways, spend more time getting your facts straight next time if you want anyone to take you seriously.

Translation: because that's what the authorities told me.
 
Least not a government tool, like you.

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I’ll engage in one conspiracy theory for you. I think you are unwittingly a government tool.

They love having people like you around sharing theories and “evidence” that’s riddled with holes blaming them for a bunch of nonsense. That way, when they really do cover something up and you are on to them, no one takes you and the CT community seriously because of the long established history of fanfiction filled with plot holes.
 
I’ll engage in one conspiracy theory for you. I think you are unwittingly a government tool.

They love having people like you around sharing theories and “evidence” that’s riddled with holes blaming them for a bunch of nonsense. That way, when they really do cover something up and you are on to them, no one takes you and the CT community seriously because of the long established history of fanfiction filled with plot holes.

I mean, I already talked about this. Controlled opposition exists. I'm sure I've bitten the bait here and there over the years.

Still beats being one willingly.
 
This is pretty much nonsense, though. Just because you can't do it, it can't be done?

All you need is a few key people in a few key places to deny the public physical proof, and the word of thousands means nothing (you know, like how you guys don't accept whistleblowers or eyewitnesses as evidence).

I'm baffled how you guys can think that nothing can be kept secret, when it's obvious that classified stuff stays secret every day. NDAs are forced to be signed all of the time.

The Chinese don't have our aircraft carrier specs, for example.

I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm saying that the more complex the conspiracy gets, the more difficult it is to hide and pull off. And when using Occam's razor, the mainstream explanation often is far more believable than the conspiracy.
 
I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm saying that the more complex the conspiracy gets, the more difficult it is to hide and pull off. And when using Occam's razor, the mainstream explanation often is far more believable than the conspiracy.

Well, when you use Occam's Razor for something like Bigfoot, the proper result one ought to come to is that the government is lying.

You start getting all complex when you want to say that it's all a mass hallucination which has been occurring for centuries, and every single footprint cast, no matter how good or where found, is part of an elaborate hoax - same with every video capture or image ever taken.

Literally only one has to be real.
 
Well, when you use Occam's Razor for something like Bigfoot, the proper result one ought to come to is that the government is lying.

You start getting all complex when you want to say that it's all a mass hallucination which has been occurring for centuries, and every single footprint cast, no matter how good or where found, is part of an elaborate hoax - same with every video capture or image ever taken.

Literally only one has to be real.

The government has a position on Bigfoot? Believing in something like Bigfoot isn't that much of stretch for me as we've already seen large animals/mammals in forests around the world. From what I've seen of the evidence (I haven't looked that much), a lot of it could be attributed to misidentification, hoaxes, or natural phenomena. Until definitive evidence is presented, like a physical specimen or skeleton, Bigfoot for me at least will remain as an animal of folklore and speculation rather than an established taxonomically classified animal.
 
Well, when you use Occam's Razor for something like Bigfoot, the proper result one ought to come to is that the government is lying.

You start getting all complex when you want to say that it's all a mass hallucination which has been occurring for centuries, and every single footprint cast, no matter how good or where found, is part of an elaborate hoax - same with every video capture or image ever taken.

Literally only one has to be real.
At this point, you're just looking to find an excuse to use the term 'the government is lying'. You really, truly, deep down, in your heart of hearts, believe that the reason we don't have definitive proof of bigfoot has anything to do with the government?
 
The government has a position on Bigfoot? Believing in something like Bigfoot isn't that much of stretch for me as we've already seen large animals/mammals in forests around the world. From what I've seen of the evidence (I haven't looked that much), a lot of it could be attributed to misidentification, hoaxes, or natural phenomena. Until definitive evidence is presented, like a physical specimen or skeleton, Bigfoot for me at least will remain as an animal of folklore and speculation rather than an established taxonomically classified animal.

There are factions (people within the DOI for example) aware of their existence, but officially they will not admit to it. Call them up and they will deny having any knowledge of the creature being real. That's there position.

Your answer is fair, though. I don't begrudge anyone who keeps an open mind about it, while being skeptical. Objective skepticism is understandable, but that's not what most of these people are exhibiting in here.
 
At this point, you're just looking to find an excuse to use the term 'the government is lying'. You really, truly, deep down, in your heart of hearts, believe that the reason we don't have definitive proof of bigfoot has anything to do with the government?

It's the only reasonable conclusion once you understand that the thing is real. They can't not know on some level.
 
It's the only reasonable conclusion once you understand that the thing is real. They can't not know on some level.
 
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