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ralph gracie sf = grr. argh. bleh.

I agree with everyone upthread who said that this was a best business practices issue. Even if this guy didn't have to honor ohmalley's payment, he should have. Businesses that claim they don't make exceptions in exceptional situations because they think customers will abuse their good hearts are spewing bullshit. Good businesses do it all the time, and it builds reputation and customer loyalty.
 
Ohmalley is a pussy. Just train. Ralph is rough but thats why he produces badass BJJ guys.
 
I hate when guys talk like that, but I have to admit that was hilarious.

It's terrible. It's like you want to grab them and just say

What the hell are you doing? Stop it. Stopppp itttttttttt.
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This whole thing you're doing. It's a caricature. You sound retarded. Stop.

What kind of sheep speaks in a certain way that they think will really seal the deal on the surfer image they are grooming. No one buys it. WE know you are from Vermont.
So shut up. :)
 
I agree with everyone upthread who said that this was a best business practices issue. Even if this guy didn't have to honor ohmalley's payment, he should have. Businesses that claim they don't make exceptions in exceptional situations because they think customers will abuse their good hearts are spewing bullshit. Good businesses do it all the time, and it builds reputation and customer loyalty.

truth. I am in property management and am bound to NOT making exceptions due to federal fair housing laws, but this not the case with 99% of the business world...

Plus its not like this is an instance where they are losing product/inventory that is cutting into their profit margin...
 
Ohmalley is a pussy. Just train. Ralph is rough but thats why he produces badass BJJ guys.

ummm he WANTED to train, even bought the classes, but they wouldnt honor them... Looks like someone has been choked out a few too many times :icon_chee
 
Ohmalley is a pussy. Just train. Ralph is rough but thats why he produces badass BJJ guys.
Yeah...I'm not sure what thread this reply is meant for, but it doesn't appear to be this one.

Edit: Dammit chino3, stop being faster than I am.
 
It's terrible. It's like you want to grab them and just say

What the hell are you doing? Stop it. Stopppp itttttttttt.
\
This whole thing you're doing. It's a caricature. You sound retarded. Stop.

What kind of sheep speaks in a certain way that they think will really seal the deal on the surfer image they are grooming. No one buys it. WE know you are from Vermont.
So shut up. :)

that's why i'm trying to bring back a more beatnik slang style to the way i speak.
 
No, he shouldn't have. Here in America its good business practice to give people what they pay for. He paid for a service (6 "lesson packs), and was not told verbally, or via his receipt that his lessons were perishable goods. That would leave one under the impression that you were good for 6 lessons, regardless of time.

as the ralph gracie student above said, and i am inclined to believe, they sell lesson packs by time and not by actual lessons, so if that time went by and ts chose not to be there, he lost his money. something was lost in translation, but that's a different matter.


It actually wasn't, you really did win the accolade of dumbest post this week, and with all of the Brandon Quick fiasco going on, that's a pretty tough task. Congrats to you! Please contact MikeyTriangles for your trophy, tell him DB sent you.

so i'm assuming you haven't seen captain chris' website, the heavyweights, or a single troll thread on sherdog(not seeing one is pretty close to impossible). what i said wasn't even dumb, u've decided that it goes against your ways, and that's why you think it's dumb. i said "i'm not surprised ralph slaps ppl," the whole first part of my post was dedicated to emphasizing that statement. apparently u have trouble understanding word play, but i won't hold that against you.

You said that sometimes you want to slap people who can't escape from positions. Not much to read into there buddy.

i said i felt like it, but i never said i did it. again, i said that to emphasize that i was not surprised that a teacher somewhere did it. frustration fuels anger, and when students try to jump to fancy games i am sure a lot of instructors want to slap them.


Slapping is a form of hitting, and who are you to discipline other grown men??? Its your instructors job to make sure his students absorb the material he teaches, that's what he gets paid to do.

if u slap ur buddy in the neck, he probably wont care much, if u punch him there he probably would. it's different. plus, i'm in no position to discipline them, so i never do, so what's your beef here? that i have thoughts?


You said that you wanted to, and by wanting to, it makes you a supporter by default.

if a the president was watching the news, and he saw the story of a mass murderer who killed young children and old ladies in the park, and collected their corpses, then the president says "sometimes i think there should be a death penalty" it's not the same as him campaigning with it and endorsing it. i'm not a supporter of hitting students, i said i was not surprised ralph does it.



What does pig fucking in rural greece have to do with your hidden desires to "slap" people from dominant positions?

do u have difficulty reading? seriously, you pick the first sentence and you stop and reply to that without reading the next one. i said that i would not be surprised if they did it, but i'm not supporting it, the same way i'm not surprised that ralph hits his students, but i'm not supporting it.


What you wrote seemed ultra macho, and now that you've gone into detail about "disciplining" the students there (by slapping them), there isn't much room needed to judge, because you've pretty much shown your hand already.

it seemed ultra macho because u had trouble reading it. i have not "gone into detail", i said sometimes i think it could be useful, but not that we need it, or that i expect it. again u cant judge me, i've said two things in my post, 1) sometimes i feel ppl who dont work on escapes need to be slapped (to focus) and 2) i wouldnt be surprised if ralph hits his students.
you can't disagree with number 2, and number 1 isn't something i do, so you shouldn't judge me on it.
 
It's terrible. It's like you want to grab them and just say

What the hell are you doing? Stop it. Stopppp itttttttttt.
\
This whole thing you're doing. It's a caricature. You sound retarded. Stop.

What kind of sheep speaks in a certain way that they think will really seal the deal on the surfer image they are grooming. No one buys it. WE know you are from Vermont.
So shut up. :)

lol! <snort> <guffaw>

*ahem* pardon me, carry on ...
 
as the ralph gracie student above said, and i am inclined to believe, they sell lesson packs by time and not by actual lessons, so if that time went by and ts chose not to be there, he lost his money. something was lost in translation, but that's a different matter.

That wasnt what he said verbatim, and that wasnt what I took out of what was said. If Kurt couldnt provide the service that was paid for, he should do the service of paying that guy his money back. Plain and simple. In a court of law, that'd be an open and shut case.


apparently u have trouble understanding word play, but i won't hold that against you.

Apparently you have not seen me in my crusades with the BJJ Police, word play is one of the things im fairly good at.


if u slap ur buddy in the neck, he probably wont care much, if u punch him there he probably would. it's different. plus, i'm in no position to discipline them, so i never do, so what's your beef here? that i have thoughts?

Not that you have thoughts, my beef is that you have the desire to slap people because you think it'd be disciplining them (these are your own words mind you). I said that if you wanted to slap, hit, strike, or whatever, go do MMA, because that type of mentality is welcomed there.

do u have difficulty reading? seriously, you pick the first sentence and you stop and reply to that without reading the next one. i said that i would not be surprised if they did it, but i'm not supporting it, the same way i'm not surprised that ralph hits his students, but i'm not supporting it.

I read what you wrote, and understood it perfectly. However, its counter productive to say that you have desires to do one thing, in order to discipline people, and your not surprised by others doing it, but your not supporting it. I dont desire slapping up the white and blue belts for discipline, because its not my place, and that sort of mentality hurts the academy more than it helps it.

it seemed ultra macho because u had trouble reading it. i have not "gone into detail", i said sometimes i think it could be useful, but not that we need it, or that i expect it. again u cant judge me, i've said two things in my post, 1) sometimes i feel ppl who dont work on escapes need to be slapped (to focus) and 2) i wouldnt be surprised if ralph hits his students.
you can't disagree with number 2, and number 1 isn't something i do, so you shouldn't judge me on it.

Im not judging YOU at all, I simply said I thought what you wrote was stupid, because its not your place as a man (and a teammate) to discipline another man. Royce Gracie, with all of his BJJ and Steroids couldnt escape dominant position from Matt Hughes, does he deserved to be slapped and disciplined too?
 
Apparently you have not seen me in my crusades with the BJJ Police, word play is one of the things im fairly good at.

Triumph the Insult Comic Dog says: " All the internet nerds and Ari Boldens are shaking in their boots. Spare me ohh mighty DarceBrabo":icon_lol:
 
i first thought that ralph got signed to strikeforce.

as to the topic, sucks for you, but u should have gone in while injured and talked it out then, not after. didn't ur teacher's teach you that with late assignments? "see me before it's due not after". anyway, i've heard ralph is rough and all, but part of me wants to slap ppl who can't escape, so i'm not entirely shocked one teacher out of thousands actually does it.
his "leave me and i'll hurt you" thing is what bugs me. i'm loyal to renzo academy because i've been given so much and asked for so little (next to money :)), they don't force ppl to stay, ppl choose to.

Come on man, some people go train to get in shape and learn a martial art while they're at it. Not everybody is meant to take it seriously. If I rolled with someone and they slapped or punched me cause I couldn't get out of mount, they better watch it when I get back up. When I signed the dotted line for a year I never agreed to abuse like that.

The fact of the matter is if what he claims happened to him really did happen to him he has, in my opinion, every right to be upset. I value loyalty as well but there's no reason to get violent or hostile in the way Ralph is known to being.

If your girlfriend says she's falling for another guy, does it give you the right to clock her in the face? No.

I respect the Gracies but in my opinion deserve respect not for your last name but for your actions. And socking your students in the face cause they couldn't get out of mount is ridiculous.
 
bora- can you summarize you argument in as few words as possible?
-I don't get your point and the less words the better in understanding. It seems like the BJJ school took someone's money and didn't give them a service. BJJ doesn't expire- if so- old people wouldn't teach it.
 
i first thought that ralph got signed to strikeforce.

as to the topic, sucks for you, but u should have gone in while injured and talked it out then, not after. didn't ur teacher's teach you that with late assignments? "see me before it's due not after". anyway, i've heard ralph is rough and all, but part of me wants to slap ppl who can't escape, so i'm not entirely shocked one teacher out of thousands actually does it.
his "leave me and i'll hurt you" thing is what bugs me. i'm loyal to renzo academy because i've been given so much and asked for so little (next to money :)), they don't force ppl to stay, ppl choose to.

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Still like i said ive never heard of a lesson pack like i was telling the other person i think there was mis-communication between both of you.

the reason why youd keep the receipt is not for taxes but because it is not something in which you'd be in regular attendance, what if you came in on a day when Kurt was sick? it just seems to me like that would be your ticket of sorts since youd be dropping in a few times out of the year.

you didnt need to spout off any questions across the school at all just say, im here for class or i have a question. seriously.

nefti,
there are a lot more rumors and gossip then being posted that has nothing to do with Dave.

Ashton,
actually he did.

Broham,

the guy paid $180 dollars.

He went to one class - got injured. Called, emailed - no response (unprofessional).

He shows up himself. The guy tells him that his "classes expired" - what kind of total unprofessional crap is that? If he walked into my gym, we'd apologize 10x for not answering the phone and put him on the mat for the entire month. Done.
 
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