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Quentin Tarantino vs Christopher Nolan

lol what. Nolan stole the entire idea of Inception from an anime movie and a Ducktales comic book. Nolan is repetitive and unoriginal.
You're talking about Papurika ?

That doesn't change the fact that Quentin can invent his own masterpiece therefore doesn't deserve to be mentioned with the all time great directors.
Mismatch from hell. QT is in GOAT contendership,
There is no way in hell Tarantino is GOAT director.
 
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Not even a contest. QT blows Nolan out of the water, and I'd bet QT stacks up with any other director out there excepts some of the super heavywieghts like Scorcese, Kubick, or Speilberg
 
Ended up picking Quentin cause I like him more & his films are just always badass.

But Chris Nolan never makes a bad movie...


The Man With The Iron Fists was...eh... Letdown from what I expected.



Still really badass though :cool:
 
Mismatch from hell. QT is in GOAT contendership, Nolan is not. I mean shit, I'd hate to pull the Oscar card, but it seems to be a 2 to 1 last I checked. It's not the best measuring stick, but if you're making quality film it's going to be hard to deny the top honors long.

Checked it out, I thought he won the Oscar for Momento, lost it go Gosford Park (Goodfellas level snub). Then it's 2 to 0, 4 to 2 if we're going with Heath & Christoph.


What makes Tarantino among the GOAT? I think it's totally up to personal interpretation and opinion. Every single movie attached to his name seems to soak in a non-serious, over-the-top flare to it. I appreciate Tarantino's work for the originality, but I still don't understand where the worship comes from. I just don't have that much nerd in me I guess.

No Oscars are not the best measuring stick, you said it best yourself.

I voted for Nolan btw.

Not even a contest. QT blows Nolan out of the water, and I'd bet QT stacks up with any other director out there excepts some of the super heavywieghts like Scorcese, Kubick, or Speilberg

More Tarantino worship I see.
 
Mark Kermode offering some criticism of Tarantino

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From the top of my mind the opening scene of 'The Dark Knight' shows the unoriginality of the Inglorious Bastards opening blatantly as a glass of Merlot spilled on a white tuxedo.

I wish i could unread this.
 
To answer directly: Tarantino.

Nolan's great, underrated even by the neckbeards on this site who can't understand why pretty girls on their FB go and see Inception and DKR, but QT delves deeper with his story lines and makes his characters count. Nolan has a way of making certain characters feel like irrelevant accessories at times that kind of makes the minutia of his stories feel bland and pointless. Ellen Page and JGL in "Inception" are good examples. Commissioner Gordon in DKR is another.

Also, Pulp Fiction isn't Tarantino's best movie. I wrote something a long time ago pointing out it's allusions to "Crime and Punishment", but that was indeed a long time ago. Not accusing him of plagiarism, i just think those allusions give people a more emotional grip on the story, yet i don't think the film itself really holds a candle to some of his other work. Death Proof was great; people just say it was "Shit" to pump their chests out, but no one explains what is actually "Shit" about it.

As well, can we have a thread comparing two things without bringing up other things?
"FINCHER"; yeah, we fucking get it, you watched Girl with the Dragon tattoo and feel deep and intellectual now, but he has nothing to do with this thread.

kbye
 
Mark Kermode offering some criticism of Tarantino

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He makes a really good point about indulgence, structure, and pacing. I also think film language of today has geared the audience toward dis-appreciating the brand of storytelling Tarantino provides. Plus, there is this over-emphasis on novelty. If it's not new, then it must be told in new and surprising fashion -- or else a movie is just so been-there-done-that it's got all the cachet of an out-of-date idiom.

What works for me is that I feel I can appreciate Tarantino's films on more levels than just plot. I agree it's self-indulgent to put yourself in your own movie, but there's also a part of me that feels, "Yeah, the director of the WE SAID NI___R A LOT film should be blown up." I'm not saying there is a ton of metaphor and symbology by any stretch of the imagination. It's just the filmmaking is more muscularly visual.

He's a master of story; different from plot. By today's standards of gimme gimme gimme, he delays and prolongs and draws out and sometimes that doesn't work. I can see why Kermode was weary during the last part of DJANGO -- I think we all were and further I think we were meant to be. We were meant to feel the lowest point of Django's journey; it's meant to be difficult (but really, only briefly). Tarantino utterly controls the audience by plunging us deeply into the narrative. Even its sly referential winks add to its fictional reality.

Today's story perspective is very self-conscious. I think it's because of all the fancy tricks we can do with the camera (I'm looking at you, Fincher). Tarantino's lengthiness either encourages us to marinate along with the story or frustrates our expectations. I don't count that is necessarily a bad thing to frustrate expectation. I love not knowing how a film is going to end up moment by moment.
 
Death Proof was great; people just say it was "Shit" to pump their chests out, but no one explains what is actually "Shit" about it.

re: Death Proof

Tarantino spends most of the film establishing characters that arent even part of the main story.
Because of that he misses the Grindhouse mark by a good 20mins.
Theres a scene in the bar where Tarantino just rambles on about completely irrelevant shit.

Its the worst kind of QT excess
 
Are we giving Tarantino credit for movies he wrote but were directed by others?
 
He makes a really good point about indulgence, structure, and pacing. I also think film language of today has geared the audience toward dis-appreciating the brand of storytelling Tarantino provides. Plus, there is this over-emphasis on novelty. If it's not new, then it must be told in new and surprising fashion -- or else a movie is just so been-there-done-that it's got all the cachet of an out-of-date idiom.

What works for me is that I feel I can appreciate Tarantino's films on more levels than just plot. I agree it's self-indulgent to put yourself in your own movie, but there's also a part of me that feels, "Yeah, the director of the WE SAID NI___R A LOT film should be blown up." I'm not saying there is a ton of metaphor and symbology by any stretch of the imagination. It's just the filmmaking is more muscularly visual.

He's a master of story; different from plot. By today's standards of gimme gimme gimme, he delays and prolongs and draws out and sometimes that doesn't work. I can see why Kermode was weary during the last part of DJANGO -- I think we all were and further I think we were meant to be. We were meant to feel the lowest point of Django's journey; it's meant to be difficult (but really, only briefly). Tarantino utterly controls the audience by plunging us deeply into the narrative. Even its sly referential winks add to its fictional reality.

Today's story perspective is very self-conscious. I think it's because of all the fancy tricks we can do with the camera (I'm looking at you, Fincher). Tarantino's lengthiness either encourages us to marinate along with the story or frustrates our expectations. I don't count that is necessarily a bad thing to frustrate expectation. I love not knowing how a film is going to end up moment by moment.



Very well put 3G.


Thing is, Nolan is great in his own ways, but those ways are more conventional and not as unique as what you get from Tarantino. In other words, there just aren't other people out here doing what Tarantino does because he puts so much of his spin on the idea that you're left with stories that have stories within the story. Its boring and doesn't make sense to some people (causing terms like overrated to get thrown around), but each scene Tarantino does is done in a fashion that litterally could be taken down its own path for one and a half hours. Its like a bunch of mini movies inside one giant film process.

With Nolan, its more conventional from front to back. There is one idea that is being developed through the entire process and you either dig it or you don't. What seperates Nolan from his contemporaries is his vision in creating that process and the amount of substantial quality and attention to certain detail that he throws into it. In other words, his version of convention is done on a much higher scale than what most other directors operate on.


I prefer Tarantino as a whole here, but I have an appreciation for what Nolan does as well.
 
I was going to make this thread, but looks like it's been made already.

Wondering if Interstellar would change anyone's minds at this point. I myself have not seen Interstellar yet (might watch it today).

Love both guys' movies. I think Tarantino's dialogue and character interactions probably pushes him in front of Nolan for me.
 
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