Pyfer: The Prototype For Poorly Booked Hype Jobs (Blame the UFC, not Joe)

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Good on Pyfer for taking the challenge. Wasn't like he got blasted and sent to the realm like Sheena on Powerslap last night. In case you don't follow Powerslap, Sheena was the Ronda Rousey of Powerslap but she got knocked out on the first slap but the other girl cheated on something so Sheena won but she got knocked out still.

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They were trying to claim he hits harder than Ngannou, it was egregious even as far as hype jobs go.

I wouldn't call that egregious. The UFC used Ngannou's record on their punch machine to hype him to the moon, saying he hit harder than a Ford Escort and all that BS. Pyfer broke that record, he earned the right to talk about it and didn't get half the promotion.

 

[Last Falconry]

this has to be the shortest hype train ever. I heard of this guy for the first time like 5 days ago and he's already in the mud

 

[OleBuffalo]

I get the comparison, it does make sense in some regard, but I still would not really put the same label on those two guys.

I think it's a tough comparison because their weaknesses are very different. The issue with Brady was or arguably is that his striking is not top notch. His groundgame is. Now his wrestling may very well be good, but it's not as good as his work once he has taken the opponent down. Which narrows his issue down to the standup and the transition to the ground. If he can't find the latter, chances are that he'll lose the fight on the feet. He's just not a great striker. But if a fight ends up on the ground, even if it's Brady who lands on bottom, I have very little doubt that Brady can turn that position in his favor.

Pyfer's trouble is still in the striking. He might be great on the ground, Idk, but that leaves a whole nother field of worrying potential to be discovered.
There are two differing kinds of strikers with high finish rates. One punch ko artists and slow-cookers. There are fighters out there that can achieve finishes just by being so much better in the striking. They are effectively decision fighting, not necessarily looking for a finish at any time, the landing differential is just so high that their opponents can't even make it to the scorecards.
Shavkat would be a great example of that. Pyfer does not seem to be that guy. The only reason he gets finishes is because he hits extremely hard. He does not necessarily get the better of any exchanges other than outmatching the opponents power on a punch for punch basis.

Striking differential really is a key metric to measure striking ability and Pyfers is just not great, and if it's not great through those kinds of performances, it rarely does get better than that. Knockout power is a thing of course, but being a one trick pony is usually not a good thing in MMA.

This all makes complete sense and I agree w everything you said about Pyfer. You’re speaking about skill, while I was just making a comparison about how they both looked unfamiliar with fighting from behind, which make sense since it was relatively easy sledding for both of them up until their losses in fights where Brady was expected to look really good against Belal, and Pyfer was a decent-sized favorite vs Jack. I’m not comparing their styles and skill strengths/deficiencies; you covered that pretty well.

The similarity I’m speaking to is that they both look like forces of nature when things are going well but did not handle adversity well when finally put in a position to have to hang tough show their heart and grit. Basically, everything you said explains why they ended up facing adversity from an Xs and Os perspective, and what I’m talking about is how they responded to it in terms of intangibles. In Brady’s case, he fell apart pretty quickly vs Belal when it got tough. In Pyfer’s case, he looked pretty uninspired in those later rounds which makes me think he wasn’t super prepared to dig deep.

 

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The DWCS guys are good for padding out Fightnights, the issue is most of these guys could just do 2-4 more fights in the regionals and come into the UFC better prepared. O"malley is the perfect example, it took over 7 years to take him from contender to the belt, by matching him against regional guys. The 2 times they didn't he got deaded or eye poked his opponent. They got him a win over Yan by ignoring 9 seperate fouls in Abu dhabi with 3 in each round. Why not just let him fight in the regionals for another 2-3 years and then naturally come into the UFC on a normal contract?

This is an odd post to make. O'Malley is 9-1 in the promotion with the one loss being due to a leg injury. He's the current champion. And yet your "perfect example" is that he should have spent more time on the regional circuit? Nothing about his career suggests that. He's the perfect example of the right signing at the right time.

They tried the same with Pyfer, but tried to get him there quicker and it failed. Now he will go back and start again for 2-3 years and we get another 6 year build up to maybe get there. WHy should the best league in the world be favouring specific fighters over others?

Or maybe Pyfer just isn't top 10 material? I don't think they rushed him, they gave him an opportunity to be ranked against a veteran gatekeeper and he failed. I'm not seeing how he's any different than the other fighters Hermansson has beaten.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

Yeah to say the only difference was a calf kick, was ridiculous and absurd.

How about all the jabs from Jack?
How about all the hooks/uppercuts from Jack?
How about all the body kicks from Jack?
How about the takedown from Jack?
How about the Ground 'n' Pound from Jack?

But of course the only thing Jack did was a calf kick. Joe seems to have a big ego and is arrogant.. when he was saying he is much more powerful than Ngannou and also punches way harder than Ngannou, I just thought what a load of hogwash. He seems to be full of it

 

[WaylonMercy5150]

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[BEATDOWNS]

Yeah to say the only difference was a calf kick, was ridiculous and absurd.

How about all the jabs from Jack?
How about all the hooks/uppercuts from Jack?
How about all the body kicks from Jack?
How about the takedown from Jack?
How about the Ground 'n' Pound from Jack?

But of course the only thing Jack did was a calf kick. Joe seems to have a big ego and is arrogant.. when he was saying he is much more powerful than Ngannou and also punches way harder than Ngannou, I just thought what a load of hogwash. He seems to be full of it

I just got caught

 

[maximus__]

This is an odd post to make. O'Malley is 9-1 in the promotion with the one loss being due to a leg injury. He's the current champion. And yet your "perfect example" is that he should have spent more time on the regional circuit? Nothing about his career suggests that. He's the perfect example of the right signing at the right time.




Or maybe Pyfer just isn't top 10 material? I don't think they rushed him, they gave him an opportunity to be ranked against a veteran gatekeeper and he failed. I'm not seeing how he's any different than the other fighters Hermansson has beaten.

O'malley joined the UFC in 2017. They managed him for the entire 6 years to get him to a shot at the belt. The 3 x they put him in against decent opposition they nearly screwed it.

He lost to Vera, Should have lost to Yan in a good 29-28 performance (he has 9 separate uncalled fouls in that fight, 3 per round) the eyepoke vs Munhoz, where he was getting outstruck at distance and then the amazing performance vs Aljo where they basically told Aljo to fight on a specific date or he would be stripped.

Sure he won the belt but he only has 2 wins over his division and is now somehow matched with number 6 when everyone else above 6 was available at that time. They chose Vera because he is hittable and they are banking on O'malley now being able to catch him.

He is a product of the UFC manipulating a fighter to a title shot and putting everything in his favour. I even like him more now when you see him in the gym with his coach, but I will call out when I see the UFC manipulating things to get him to a title shot.

 

[Dick]

O'malley joined the UFC in 2017. They managed him for the entire 6 years to get him to a shot at the belt. The 3 x they put him in against decent opposition they nearly screwed it.

He lost to Vera, Should have lost to Yan in a good 29-28 performance (he has 9 separate uncalled fouls in that fight, 3 per round) the eyepoke vs Munhoz, where he was getting outstruck at distance and then the amazing performance vs Aljo where they basically told Aljo to fight on a specific date or he would be stripped.

Sure he won the belt but he only has 2 wins over his division and is now somehow matched with number 6 when everyone else above 6 was available at that time. They chose Vera because he is hittable and they are banking on O'malley now being able to catch him.

He is a product of the UFC manipulating a fighter to a title shot and putting everything in his favour. I even like him more now when you see him in the gym with his coach, but I will call out when I see the UFC manipulating things to get him to a title shot.

Yawn. The UFC sure manipulated Sterling to get knocked out. O'Malley may be the product of selective match making but in his biggest fight to date, he shined.

 

[BEATDOWNS]

O'malley joined the UFC in 2017. They managed him for the entire 6 years to get him to a shot at the belt. The 3 x they put him in against decent opposition they nearly screwed it.

He lost to Vera, Should have lost to Yan in a good 29-28 performance (he has 9 separate uncalled fouls in that fight, 3 per round) the eyepoke vs Munhoz, where he was getting outstruck at distance and then the amazing performance vs Aljo where they basically told Aljo to fight on a specific date or he would be stripped.

Sure he won the belt but he only has 2 wins over his division and is now somehow matched with number 6 when everyone else above 6 was available at that time. They chose Vera because he is hittable and they are banking on O'malley now being able to catch him.

He is a product of the UFC manipulating a fighter to a title shot and putting everything in his favour. I even like him more now when you see him in the gym with his coach, but I will call out when I see the UFC manipulating things to get him to a title shot.

what about Paddy? people will cry if he fights some can and they will cry if he is matched with someone that ranked. These guys can't win sometimes peeps just love to hate.

 

[maximus__]

Yawn. The UFC sure manipulated Sterling to get knocked out. O'Malley may be the product of selective match making but in his biggest fight to date, he shined.

I said in my post he did excellent in that fight. The UFC still booked it on a date to suit O'malley and then skipped the entire top 5 to go all the way to 6 to find him an opponent.

Aljo gets less than a 3 month turn around and O'malley gets to sit out the year because the UFC threatened to strip Aljo. Then after beating 3/5 previous champions in his weightclass in his last 3 fights, the UFC has no interest in a rematch suddenly?

Then instead of the clear storyline with contender Merab who is a training partner of ALjo(and is on a 9 fight win streak, with 3 top 10 wins) we get Vera because Merab is too risky for the UFCs favourite BW.

O'malley still got the win and won the belt, but it's kinda embarassing for the UFC. Add to that they have made UFC 299 better than 300 just to try and sell the narrative he is a star.

 

[maximus__]

what about Paddy? people will cry if he fights some can and they will cry if he is matched with someone that ranked. These guys can't win sometimes peeps just love to hate.

Paddy is out of low level fights now after T Ferg. He is into the realm of top 15-20 now and needs another dangerous guy on the cusp within that division. Paddy has had 5 fights with a 1 year lay off thrown in over 3 years. O'malley had similar but popped 2xfor Ostarine during that time off.

 

[markys00]

I don't really see a problem with the booking. Perhaps it getting main event maybe?

I mean, these are apex main events now.. sadly

 

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O'malley joined the UFC in 2017. They managed him for the entire 6 years to get him to a shot at the belt. The 3 x they put him in against decent opposition they nearly screwed it.

What's strange about that to you? The majority of fighters signed never make it to title contention. They capitalized off a prospect and we literally watched his development right before our eyes. Everything went perfectly.

He lost to Vera, Should have lost to Yan in a good 29-28 performance (he has 9 separate uncalled fouls in that fight, 3 per round) the eyepoke vs Munhoz, where he was getting outstruck at distance and then the amazing performance vs Aljo where they basically told Aljo to fight on a specific date or he would be stripped.

You sure are tossing out a lot of excuses. The reality is the guy came in as a significant underdog against Yan, performed far better than expected, then knocked out the reigning champ.

Sure he won the belt but he only has 2 wins over his division and is now somehow matched with number 6 when everyone else above 6 was available at that time. They chose Vera because he is hittable and they are banking on O'malley now being able to catch him.

I don't think anyone is denying that. Doesn't have anything to do with your initial comment though.

He is a product of the UFC manipulating a fighter to a title shot and putting everything in his favour. I even like him more now when you see him in the gym with his coach, but I will call out when I see the UFC manipulating things to get him to a title shot.

Again, doesn't have anything to do with your initial comment where you were arguing he should have spent 2 more years outside the UFC.

 

[maximus__]

What's strange about that to you? The majority of fighters signed never make it to title contention. They capitalized off a prospect and we literally watched his development right before our eyes. Everything went perfectly.



You sure are tossing out a lot of excuses. The reality is the guy came in as a significant underdog against Yan, performed far better than expected, then knocked out the reigning champ.



I don't think anyone is denying that. Doesn't have anything to do with your initial comment though.


Again, doesn't have anything to do with your initial comment where you were arguing he should have spent 2 more years outside the UFC.

He was fighting regional guys until his last 4 fights. More than half his opponents were cut within 1 fight of fighting him and everyone but Paiva and Aljo had a loss prior. He could have fought those exact same guys in the regionals, they were kept for one more fight to fight him pre Paiva and lets not forget Moutinho... They tried to do similar here with Pyfer, except it didn't work out this time by giving him guys alternate wins and losses.

Yan vs O'malley had more blatant favouritism than Conor vs Khabib. O'malley was hanging off Yan's gloves in every round, poked him in the eye and was warned not to grab the cage in the third, 3 seconds before using the cage to granby roll away. They also somehow deemed every single one of his strikes except 5 as sig strikes, when Yan was the one actually landing bigger strikes. It's probably the worst officiated fight in UFC history to be honest. Never have we seen 9 blatant fouls that significantly affected the fight ignored like that before. He out fouled Conor by a significant margin and that's saying something.

I am going after the UFC more than I am going after O'malley with my criticism.

 

[svmr_db]

Pyfer won 2 rounds off Hermansson, he's a front runner yeah but he's young and has plenty of time to level up. Some of you guys are acting like he completely crumbled like Abus Magomedov vs Strickland lol, I'm surprised he even went 5 rounds without folding once it was clear Hermansson wasn't going away.

 

[Sticko]

He was fighting regional guys until his last 4 fights. More than half his opponents were cut within 1 fight of fighting him and everyone but Paiva and Aljo had a loss prior. He could have fought those exact same guys in the regionals, they were kept for one more fight to fight him pre Paiva and lets not forget Moutinho... They tried to do similar here with Pyfer, except it didn't work out this time by giving him guys alternate wins and losses.

Yan vs O'malley had more blatant favouritism than Conor vs Khabib. O'malley was hanging off Yan's gloves in every round, poked him in the eye and was warned not to grab the cage in the third, 3 seconds before using the cage to granby roll away. They also somehow deemed every single one of his strikes except 5 as sig strikes, when Yan was the one actually landing bigger strikes. It's probably the worst officiated fight in UFC history to be honest. Never have we seen 9 blatant fouls that significantly affected the fight ignored like that before. He out fouled Conor by a significant margin and that's saying something.

I am going after the UFC more than I am going after O'malley with my criticism.

O'Malley has been a star for the UFC since before he started fighting top opponents. He could have fought those guys on the regionals but then the UFC wouldn't have made money off those fights.

Kris Moutinho was brought in as a short-notice replacement for Louis Smolka to keep O'Malley on a card but the other regional-level guys O'Malley fought were already on the roster.

 

[empsim]

I thought that was a fine matchup to see where he stands.