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Social Putin or Trudeau?

Who would you rather as a leader

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nostradumbass said:
The question wasn't which system you prefer, it was which one you would rather hold the office in your country's system.

Justin Castro is the prime minister with like 30% of the vote, so you really can't just vote him out whenever you want when the vast majority didn't vote for him in the first place. Hell, even within Canada's system, he still gave himself unprecedented authority to curb the rights of citizens and steal their money.
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You can't really divorce the leader from the system because Putin laid the groundwork for the post Yeltsin form of government in Russia.

How did he curb the rights of citizens?
 
MicroBrew said:
You can't really divorce the leader from the system because Putin laid the groundwork for the post Yeltsin form of government in Russia.

How did he curb the rights of citizens?
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By declaring "emergency powers" to freeze the assets of his citizens and control their crypto investments for protesting without a court order and have cops beating and arresting people in the streets for opposing him.

I didn't make the thread, but I took this and Biden one to point out how badly degraded leaders in the west have become, not which country you prefer. If it was asking which country you prefer or support, of course people just pick their own, but this was asking who's the more competent statesman, because the US and Canada currently have leaders who really don't seem to like their own country or their people very much at all, and I don't think anybody could claim Putin isn't pro Russia.
 
A big part of being a leader is doing the right thing,

Invading a country and literally killing your opponents are not the right things

Trudeau while sometimes does goofy shit, is still doing things with the positive intent for Canada
 
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Bald1 said:
It seems you're the sour one because I point out Trudeau's inconsistency and hypocrisy at every opportunity when it's relevant to do so. He's not a man who practices what he preachers.

Like, say when he supported Indian farmers but reversed that concept when it came into his back yard. He had no power there either, right?

And are you claiming this is a situation where the ends justify the means?

As for relinquishing his powers? He licked his finger and stuck it in the air to get a reading in political winds.
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He may be inconsistent and a hypocrite, but that doesn't change the reality of what I said. Anyway, it's certainly true that I probably ought to not have commented in a provocative manner if I wasn't going to engage fully with your rebuttal. So, my bad, because I don't have the energy to go back and forth on that any longer. I'll bow out.
 
wlu.29 said:
A big part of being a leader is doing the right thing,

Invading a country and literally killing your opponents are not the right things

Trudeau while sometimes does goofy shit, is still doing things with the positive intent for Canada
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Lmao ..
 
Absolutely wild that more people chose putin and shows how many people in here are unbelievably stupid and pathetic. Putin is an actual dictator and incredibly corrupt and makes it impossible for anyone to oppose him and has had free reign to murder anyone that opposes him.
 
ReligiousDiscipline said:
I won't defend myself or make excuses. I deserve everything you wrote in that post. My posts in this thread about Putin look even more stupid and foolish now given the current situation. It was ignorant and stupid of me to post what I did and I feel like an even bigger idiot now that Putin has gone full retard. :oops:

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KnightTemplar said:
Yeah, that post hasn't aged well...:oops:
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@Andy Capp i think people that are willing to admit that they were wrong deserve credit. Obviously i think it was always ridiculous to think Putin was a better leader. However it is perfectly ok to have disapproval for your government leaders. I think some people may not have been completely aware of how awful Putin really is. In the west we are so used to being able to express our displeasure with our leaders that sometimes we make poor statements. Admitting ones mistakes should always be forgivable.
 
Andy Capp said:
He may be inconsistent and a hypocrite, but that doesn't change the reality of what I said. Anyway, it's certainly true that I probably ought to not have commented in a provocative manner if I wasn't going to engage fully with your rebuttal. So, my bad, because I don't have the energy to go back and forth on that any longer. I'll bow out.
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All good. Keep well.
 
Lowmanproblems said:
@Andy Capp i think people that are willing to admit that they were wrong deserve credit. Obviously i think it was always ridiculous to think Putin was a better leader. However it is perfectly ok to have disapproval for your government leaders. I think some people may not have been completely aware of how awful Putin really is. In the west we are so used to being able to express our displeasure with our leaders that sometimes we make poor statements. Admitting ones mistakes should always be forgivable.
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I was out of likes earlier and had none to give those gents.
 
Imagine waiting to live under a dictator who prisons and kills critics in the open and just invaded another country.

Fuck me the whole "my team is better your literally Hitler" way of the world is a joke
 
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