Social Putin or Trudeau?

[LMP]

I'm sure he has eyes and he has the capabilities to read this forum but I'm not sure if he's aware of this forum's existance

this is the most important political sub-forum on the internet.

and the blatant anti-Putinism these mods are showing on here.

Imagine not being against a man that doesn't value the lives of his own soldiers.

 

[Barteh]

this is the most important political sub-forum on the internet.

Imagine not being against a man that doesn't value the lives of his own soldiers.

Meh that's pretty much any president or leader in the world's history.

 

[andnowweknow]

Meh that's pretty much any president or leader in the world's history.

It's actually not.

 

[HOLA]

Doesn't seem like it's a very noticeable groups if we are to believe these numbers:

8% of Moscow being Muslim isn't noticeable? I can assure you if 8% of Kansas turned Muslim, yokels would notice it.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Trudeau is closeted MO who was a drama teacher that ran on family name and has been overall shit for Canadian economic progress but he's still miles above Putin in basically every meaningful facet

 

[Broke Lester]

8% of Moscow being Muslim isn't noticeable? I can assure you if 8% of Kansas turned Muslim, yokels would notice it.

@LMP Are you a yokel?

 

[LMP]

@LMP Are you a yokel?

Almost, I lived close to the Kansas border. Even lived in Kansas for a few years.

 

[aerius]

It isn't that wild that people would vote for Putin. They haven't experienced him personally. And, if you consider Russia, a mostly white, Christian nation with traditional values in terms of societal norms, people can romanticize that and overlook the glaring flaws/problems.

Trudeau is a petulant little fuck and steps on his own hands (such as the trucker issue), but it's easy to reject him when he stands opposite of you on day to day issues for you forgetting the fact that he's only like 30 degrees off from your own views.

Putin stands against us on issues we never have to legitimately be concerned about -- freedom of the press, religion, speech, discrimination based on sexuality, etc. is like 160 degrees off of westerners view of freedom, but, again, we don't have to experience it and his country looks like our own traditional makeup.

Hard no on Putin from me, soft no on Trudeau, conceding that there is some value in certain instances for authoritarian rule in the service of stability.

One more reason to stop viewing politics as a lateral continuum and more like a venn diagram.

Bingo. Pretend I'm a space alien, or maybe I've just been living under a rock for the past 30 years, and let's look at what Putin has done for Russia vs. Trudeau for Canada. Putin has taken a country which was literally one step above a failed nation and rebuilt it into a regional power. There's been massive investments in infrastructure, industry, and resources, the standard of living has improved greatly since he's taken power.

Here in Canada, well, shit's been going backwards since Trudeau won his PM post. We've continued with the de-industrialization of our nation and neglected our infrastructure to the point where 80-100 year old water mains break in my city every single day. Cost of living is up huge and in 2-3 years we're going to have the same electricity shortage problems in my Province that California is currently experiencing. At best you could argue that Canada has been stagnant, in reality, most indicators are going backwards.

With that said, would I want to live in Russia? Fuck no. Their drug and gender/sexuality policies are antithetical to me, and that's just for starters. For my parents? Well, they'd be quite happy in Russia since they don't give a shit about legalized drugs or LGBQT rights, they grew up under martial law so Russia's policies are no big deal for them.

 

[panem-et-circenses]

Interesting thread to revisit. Now that we've had more time to digest Putin's invasion of Ukraine, I wonder if people still feel the same as they did?

I made a Biden vs Putin thread copy pasting the OP of this thread. Although it isn't as funny, you should check it out.

 

[Andy Capp]

I apologize for the more or less empty post but I have to say, this thread cracks me the fuck up.

170 votes for Putin rofl, so sad yet so funny

 

[HOLA]

Bingo. Pretend I'm a space alien, or maybe I've just been living under a rock for the past 30 years, and let's look at what Putin has done for Russia vs. Trudeau for Canada. Putin has taken a country which was literally one step above a failed nation and rebuilt it into a regional power. There's been massive investments in infrastructure, industry, and resources, the standard of living has improved greatly since he's taken power.

Here in Canada, well, shit's been going backwards since Trudeau won his PM post. We've continued with the de-industrialization of our nation and neglected our infrastructure to the point where 80-100 year old water mains break in my city every single day. Cost of living is up huge and in 2-3 years we're going to have the same electricity shortage problems in my Province that California is currently experiencing. At best you could argue that Canada has been stagnant, in reality, most indicators are going backwards.

With that said, would I want to live in Russia? Fuck no. Their drug and gender/sexuality policies are antithetical to me, and that's just for starters. For my parents? Well, they'd be quite happy in Russia since they don't give a shit about legalized drugs or LGBQT rights, they grew up under martial law so Russia's policies are no big deal for them.

Maybe they can move in next to Jeff Monson. Looks cozy.

 

[HOLA]

I made a Biden vs Putin thread copy pasting the OP of this thread. Although it isn't as funny, you should check it out.

I made it exactly 2 posts before Dimballer made me tap out.

is this a serious question?

how could anybody choose biden after seeing the disaster that was his presidency so far?

15 likes.

Maybe I'll browse through it later. I just can't right now lol.