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Social Putin or Trudeau?

Who would you rather as a leader

  • Putin

  • Tredeau


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Very oversimplified version but ok, now do Turdo.
What country did Trudeau invade again? Which one is threatening the world with Nukes if he does get his way?
 
What country did Trudeau invade again? Which one is threatening the world with Nukes if he does get his way?
I mean, if the question is which leader is less likely to invade another country the answer is obviously Turdo.

But the question was who would I rather follow as a leader and my answer is Vlad.
 
I mean, if the question is which leader is less likely to invade another country the answer is obviously Turdo.

But the question was who would I rather follow as a leader and my answer is Vlad.
As i said:

*sitting here watching Putin inch the world closer to WW3.

"He is so strong and smart, a way better leader."

Cant make this shit up.
 
Politics aside, I picked Trudeau; because you can vote him out while you can't vote Putin out (highly unlikely).
 
It should tell you something about Putin's leadership ability that he has been able to last as leader of Russia for so long. Trudeau is so pathetic he wouldn't last a week. Trudeau's short term would end with a bayonet up his ass and his head being kicked down the street like a soccer ball.


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You should just change your av to "I'm a useless troll who isn't worth a fuck" with an arrow pointing to it in place of typing anything when you post and save us all some time and trouble.
 
Prime Minister Blackface won't throw you off a balcony and get you to slip on polonium, yet.
 
I remember the good old days where in this very thread I said I'd take Trudeau because at least he's not an authoritarian, totalitarian prick. Seems the trucker protest pushed him over the cliff and he exposed his aristocratic tendencies. Good times.
Please go ahead, and provide evidence that suggests that a PM who deliberately delimited his own power, who is leader in a minority government of a parliamentary democracy where a vote of no confidence could trigger a new election at any time, is anything close to approaching totalitarian, or please stick this where the sun doesn't shine. I'm so tired of this sort of false equivalency that I need you to put up or shut up, please and thank you.

Have a nice day.
 
Which one would you rather have in charge of your country? I know most people on the left would prefer Trudeau, but what about people on the right? Putin is a strong leader and not affected by political correctness, but he is also an authoritarian and extremely violent.

I am more confused by the people that think Putin doesn't freeze bank accounts, murder people that disagree with him and kill his political opposition.
Anyone that says Trudeu is an idiot. Putin would do everything he has done, then murder your family and completely end your family line with all your social group knowing to send a message.
Put your privileged life in perspective to what's happening in the world. The fact that you can post on this forum and have an opinion is better than a country like Russia has in certain circumstances if you are on the other side to Putin.
 
Please go ahead, and provide evidence that suggests that a PM who deliberately delimited his own power, who is leader in a minority government of a parliamentary democracy where a vote of no confidence could trigger a new election at any time, is anything close to approaching totalitarian, or please stick this where the sun doesn't shine. I'm so tired of this sort of false equivalency that I need you to put up or shut up, please and thank you.

Have a nice day.
He floated the idea and gave it a shot on false grounds. That you're not seeing the progression from - everyone must obey to asking if dissenters should be tolerated to trying to implement emergency measures to crack down on those dissenters doesn't change the fact that he did indeed take those steps in that sequence. Just because Craig Cobb failed doesn't mean he didn't want to succeed.
 
I think some of the US far right do want a dictator.

They would have let Trump do whatever he wanted to stay in power - and some would have even gone further and taken action themselves.

They don't see it's just a cult of personality, and now that Trump's gone, it's suddenly less imperative that he was in charge.

I bet some literally would support a dictatorship led by Putin. It would make so many decisions easy for them.
Bravo. You've hit the nail on the head--it makes things simple for simple people. The bad guys are whomever they've been told are the bad guys, scapegoat of the week, so to speak. The good guys are whomever the boss says are the good guys. No need to think for yourself, no need to evaluate or question, just go along to get along. Anyone who is not part of the "popular" group is either bullied into conforming or added to the enemies list. Tried and true, and all the easier to promulgate via social media thanks to algorithms.

That's how lazy and stripped of empathy some people have become. They want an authoritarian because for them it's just easier to be told what to think and who cares about the hardships that befall anyone who disagrees?
 
He floated the idea and gave it a shot on false grounds. That you're not seeing the progression from - everyone must obey to asking if dissenters should be tolerated to trying to implement emergency measures to crack down on those dissenters doesn't change the fact that he did indeed take those steps in that sequence. Just because Craig Cobb failed doesn't mean he didn't want to succeed.
A conservative senator appointed by Stephen Harper laid the blame for the entire event at the feet of the municipal police. They did fuckall until he acted. Over and over I have pointed out to you the separation of powers between provinces and the federal government and you've dodged that when trying to lay all the blame on Trudeau. How do explain that before he acted, the blockade dragged on for weeks but once Trudeau invoked powers to allow him to over-ride that separation they dispersed within days? And how do you explain that he relinquished those powers as soon as they were no longer needed? You're fucking making my brain hurt with this shit. I thought we already agreed you're just sour because it's Trudeau of all people?
 
A conservative senator appointed by Stephen Harper laid the blame for the entire event at the feet of the municipal police. They did fuckall until he acted. Over and over I have pointed out to you the separation of powers between provinces and the federal government and you've dodged that when trying to lay all the blame on Trudeau. How do explain that before he acted, the blockade dragged on for weeks but once Trudeau invoked powers to allow him to over-ride that separation they dispersed within days? And how do you explain that he relinquished those powers as soon as they were no longer needed? You're fucking making my brain hurt with this shit. I thought we already agreed you're just sour because it's Trudeau of all people?
It seems you're the sour one because I point out Trudeau's inconsistency and hypocrisy at every opportunity when it's relevant to do so. He's not a man who practices what he preachers.

Like, say when he supported Indian farmers but reversed that concept when it came into his back yard. He had no power there either, right?

And are you claiming this is a situation where the ends justify the means?

As for relinquishing his powers? He licked his finger and stuck it in the air to get a reading in political winds.
 
You should just change your av to "I'm a useless troll who isn't worth a fuck" with an arrow pointing to it in place of typing anything when you post and save us all some time and trouble.

I won't defend myself or make excuses. I deserve everything you wrote in that post. My posts in this thread about Putin look even more stupid and foolish now given the current situation. It was ignorant and stupid of me to post what I did and I feel like an even bigger idiot now that Putin has gone full retard. :oops:

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Politics aside, I picked Trudeau; because you can vote him out while you can't vote Putin out (highly unlikely).
The question wasn't which system you prefer, it was which one you would rather hold the office in your country's system.

Justin Castro is the prime minister with like 30% of the vote, so you really can't just vote him out whenever you want when the vast majority didn't vote for him in the first place. Hell, even within Canada's system, he still gave himself unprecedented authority to curb the rights of citizens and steal their money.
 
The question wasn't which system you prefer, it was which one you would rather hold the office in your country's system.

Justin Castro is the prime minister with like 30% of the vote, so you really can't just vote him out whenever you want when the vast majority didn't vote for him in the first place. Hell, even within Canada's system, he still gave himself unprecedented authority to curb the rights of citizens and steal their money.

One of the most frustrating things Trudeau says is "Canadians voted for a government that..." and then adds whatever ridiculous agenda he is pushing at the moment. The problem is that most Canadians didn't vote for Trudeau and most Canadians can't stand him.
 
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