'Prometheus' and 'Alien Covenant' explained

[MicroBrew]

There is 'vegetation' in the opening scene of the movie. I believe this shot was not shown in the original movie.

Yeah that looks like contemporary scenery or how things were tens of thousands of years ago. Does not look like dinosaur era flora but then again all we see is little shrubs so earth may have looked like that during the dinosaurs or before??

 

[San Marino]

Yeah that looks like contemporary scenery or how things were tens of thousands of years ago. Does not look like dinosaur era flora but then again all we see is little shrubs so earth may have looked like that during the dinosaurs or before??

There is 'flora' in the opening scene of the movie. The Engineers should have been smart enough to know that animal life would follow. I don't know that that scene took place on Earth.

 

[William Huggins]

Dark Horse comics version of the space jockey.

 

[San Marino]

So, Engineers worship this thing (in Prometheus) that looks like an Alien 'Xenomorph' or early 'Deacon.' They seem to be descendants of this creature. There are many Christian connotations to its crucified position displayed on the wall. Check out the 'Facehuggers' at the bottom. But wait! Was David not the one that created the eggs with the 'Facehuggers'?

@William Huggins, @MicroBrew, @BisexualMMA, @moreorless87

 

[William Huggins]

So, Engineers worship this thing (in Prometheus) that looks like an Alien 'Xenomorph' or early 'Deacon.' They seem to be descendants of this creature. There are many Christian connotations to its crucified position displayed on the wall. Check out the 'Facehuggers' at the bottom. But wait! Was David not the one that created the eggs with the 'Facehuggers'?

@William Huggins, @MicroBrew, @BisexualMMA, @moreorless87

I'm not a fan of this lore.......... Aliens being a biological weapon is one thing but this god business doesn't do it for me, Dark Horse had fanatical humans in their stories sometimes that worshipped them but everyone else saw them as giant parasitic bugs.

 

[kimocomplex]

imo the Space Jockey is an Engineer

 

[MicroBrew]

So, Engineers worship this thing (in Prometheus) that looks like an Alien 'Xenomorph' or early 'Deacon.' They seem to be descendants of this creature. There are many Christian connotations to its crucified position displayed on the wall. Check out the 'Facehuggers' at the bottom. But wait! Was David not the one that created the eggs with the 'Facehuggers'?

@William Huggins, @MicroBrew, @BisexualMMA, @moreorless87

The mural from Prometheus screws up the Covenant plot of David being the creator.

People have said that the mural depicts a Deacon and not a Xenomorph or protomorph so it does not conflict with David creating the Xenomorphs. The figure in the mural does not look like a Xenomorph , and does somewhat like the Deacon that burst out of the Engineer's chest.

But then how does one explain the face hugger in the mural?

 

[San Marino]

 

[bubbleboyjones]

The mural from Prometheus screws up the Covenant plot of David being the creator.

People have said that the mural depicts a and not a Xenomorph or protomorph so it does not conflict with David creating the Xenomorphs. The figure in the mural does not look like a Xenomorph , and does somewhat like the Deacon that burst out of the Engineer's chest.

But then how does one explain the face hugger in the mural?

From my understanding Engineers originally created them. David created the Xenomorph by reverse engineering from the Black Goo with the Deacon in mind. Basically everything is just a variation of the classic Xenomorph as we know it.

If you look at the text from David from his experiments it indicates he is reverse engineering with an end goal in mind which is to recreate something that the Engineers already had(which the mural shows). So he already knows roughly what it's supposed to be in it's final form(i assume from the previous Engineers creations)

"This mutated specimen appears to be nearing perfection. Investigation of this series of mutations show that the final specimen is within reach. The development of the proboscis which appears as an elongated appendage from the head of the creature seems to provide the link missed in previous specimens."

 

[San Marino]

From my understanding Engineers originally created them. David created the Xenomorph by reverse engineering from the Black Goo with the Deacon in mind. Basically everything is just a variation of the classic Xenomorph as we know it.

If you look at the text from David from his experiments it indicates he is reverse engineering with an end goal in mind which is to recreate something that the Engineers already had(which the mural shows). So he already knows roughly what it's supposed to be in it's final form(i assume from the previous Engineers creations)

"This mutated specimen appears to be nearing perfection. Investigation of this series of mutations show that the final specimen is within reach. The development of the proboscis which appears as an elongated appendage from the head of the creature seems to provide the link missed in previous specimens."

Bingo! We have a winner.
That was a good post. It seems that the legs of the 'facehugger' comes from human or engineer hands - the structure.
Did you know the original eggs had only one slit instead of four? Some thought that it looked too much like a vagina and decided to make it four slits. Now, I think the mouth of the facehugger looks a lot like a vagina. Same for your drawing. I'm not sure why production did not have a problem with that.

Also, do you think the 'Space Jokey' is an 'Engineer' or an 'Alpha'?

 

[elwani]

The mural from Prometheus screws up the Covenant plot of David being the creator.

People have said that the mural depicts a Deacon and not a Xenomorph or protomorph so it does not conflict with David creating the Xenomorphs. The figure in the mural does not look like a Xenomorph , and does somewhat like the Deacon that burst out of the Engineer's chest.

But then how does one explain the face hugger in the mural?

Clearly they were sent back in time and became the ancestors of the engineers.

Engineers created humans ==> Humans created androids ==> Androids created facehuggers ==> Facehuggers created engineers

 

[San Marino]

Clearly they were sent back in time and became the ancestors of the engineers.

Engineers created humans ==> Humans created androids ==> Androids created facehuggers ==> Facehuggers created engineers

There is another species that may be coming into play soon. The 'Alphas.' I really hope Ridley Scott brings them in in future movies. They seem to have created both Engineers and the Alien. Humans seem to be an evolved species as are Predators. Human DNA was used by Alphas to create Engineers. I'm still going with the script that the 'Space Jockey' is an Alpha and not an Engineer.

 

[sjon22]

Ive been re watching the Alien series and watched Prometheus last night. I enjoyed it I thought it was a pretty entertaining film. I think it was edited poorly. Id loves to see a directors cut. Seems like a movie that cut an hour out and kept the stupid shit instead of the Lore.

3 was way better than I remember and Resurrection is a steaming pile of dogshit

 

[deviake]

Bingo! We have a winner.
That was a good post. It seems that the legs of the 'facehugger' comes from human or engineer hands - the structure.
Did you know the original eggs had only one slit instead of four? Some thought that it looked too much like a vagina and decided to make it four slits. Now, I think the mouth of the facehugger looks a lot like a vagina. Same for your drawing. I'm not sure why production did not have a problem with that.

Also, do you think the 'Space Jokey' is an 'Engineer' or an 'Alpha'?

They probably didn't have a problem with it because Alien is about male rape. Lotta suggestive stuff in it.

Paraphrased, I forgot who involved said it: "We want to attack the male audience sexually"

 

[San Marino]

The plot thickens...

The Alpha

The Space Jockey

The Alpha - Version 02

 

[MicroBrew]

People are saying the Engineers worshipped the Deacon because of the exsistence of the mural. Creating the mural does not mean the Engineers worshipped the Deacon, it could just be their attempt at memorializing their achievement at creating face huggers and the Deacon.

 

[therealdope]

What’s to explain? Those movies were fucking dogshit.

I love it when the first reply nails it. Covenant was just fucking horrible.

 

[San Marino]

People are saying the Engineers worshipped the Deacon because of the existence of the mural. Creating the mural does not mean the Engineers worshipped the Deacon, it could just be their attempt at memorializing their achievement at creating face huggers and the Deacon.

On this version of the story, Aliens created the Engineers. Hence the Alien worship:

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

On this version of the story, Aliens created the Engineers. Hence the Alien worship:

Calling bullshit on this. The xenomorphs are destructive, not creative. Humans have muralized lesser species throughout time.

 

[Dan Torrance]

Bingo! We have a winner.
That was a good post. It seems that the legs of the 'facehugger' comes from human or engineer hands - the structure.
Did you know the original eggs had only one slit instead of four? Some thought that it looked too much like a vagina and decided to make it four slits. Now, I think the mouth of the facehugger looks a lot like a vagina. Same for your drawing. I'm not sure why production did not have a problem with that.

Also, do you think the 'Space Jokey' is an 'Engineer' or an 'Alpha'?

They did it on purpose.