Prime Fedor Emelianenko vs. Stipe Miocic

[Mga223]

Stipe

Fedor is the HW GOAT but he wouldn't have his near perfect record coming up in this era


If Fedor came up in this era and defended against Stipe, Werdum, Reem, JDS, Cain, and DC, he would have alot more loses

Before you put on your nostalgia glasses and say he would beat them all, lets actually look at who Fedor beat in Pride.

Brett Rogers (Laughable, and Fedor struggled a bit)

Chinny Andre Arvolski (Chinner and worse striking than Reem)

Tim Sylvia (Past his prime but Fedor murdered him)

Choi Hong-man (yikes)

Matt Linland (lmao)

Mark Hunt (0 ground game, you know he's improved that leaps and bound training at ATT)

Mark Coleman (Gasses walking to the ring)

zuluzinho (pathetic)


his best wins are Prime Nog and Cro Cop, who were fucking monsters

But 200-year-old Stipe would never get KOED by a MW.

It's like Silva losing to Conor Mcgregor. Doesn't matter if Silva today is out of his prime if he loses to Conor its bad. Don't @ me trying to argue Silva and Conor is not the same size difference between Fedor and Dan Henderson justifying it by a few pounds and inches. You know dam well what my main point is

100%

Nothing really to add but this is the truth.

 

[AlwaysWonder]

Battle of the titans. Would be a good fight.

I like Fedor like everyone else but he has to be without question (besides Ronda Rousey) the most overrated fighter in mma history.

I dont even like Stipe but he would murder Fedor.

 

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Stipe

Fedor is the HW GOAT but he wouldn't have his near perfect record coming up in this era

If Fedor came up in this era and defended against Stipe, Werdum, Reem, JDS, Cain, and DC, he would have alot more loses

Before you put on your nostalgia glasses and say he would beat them all, lets actually look at who Fedor beat in Pride.

Brett Rogers (Laughable, and Fedor struggled a bit)

Chinny Andre Arvolski (Chinner and worse striking than Reem)

Tim Sylvia (Past his prime but Fedor murdered him)

Choi Hong-man (yikes)

Matt Linland (lmao)

Mark Hunt (0 ground game, you know he's improved that leaps and bound training at ATT)

Mark Coleman (Gasses walking to the ring)

zuluzinho (pathetic)

his best wins are Prime Nog and Cro Cop, who were fucking monsters

But 200-year-old Stipe would never get KOED by a MW.

It's like Silva losing to Conor Mcgregor. Doesn't matter if Silva today is out of his prime if he loses to Conor its bad. Don't @ me trying to argue Silva and Conor is not the same size difference between Fedor and Dan Henderson justifying it by a few pounds and inches. You know dam well what my main point is

Yeah your argument is just like Silva losing to Conor McGregor. <45>

 

[Mike01010101a]

I remember when Stipe - after Struve defeat - was mediocre firefighter with low level sport background here and now he is the alltime HW. Check the comments after his next defeat sometime. His reputation and legacy will be everything but great. This is the forum

 

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Anyone saying so and so murders Fedor at his peak is delusional, a new fan to the sport or just a hater. When you're saying he got beat by a MW etc..you're not paying attention. The guy we're talking about was 10 years undefeated at HW and we're talking his prime. Stipe just isn't the mixed martial artist Fedor was in his day. Both fought enough elite guys for me to make this statement. I don't believe Stipe has anywhere near the sub game, no way could stalk a 2006 Cro Cop down like that on the feet. It'd be a good fight though.

 

[Spath]

I like Fedor like everyone else but he has to be without question (besides Ronda Rousey) the most overrated fighter in mma history.

I dont even like Stipe but he would murder Fedor.

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[WARinsertname]

Stipe has ok footwork, and good straight punches. His wrestling is pretty good too. He is a jack of all trades in a very decrepit heavyweight division. His boxing defense would leave him open to some power shots though, he seems to wade into punches alot more than I would like him to.

Fedor back in his day had great speed and reflexes to make up for his lack of size in there, not to mention his cardio. He was far more tactical than the old brawler he has become.

If this fight were to happen now I wouldn't bet on Fedor at all, Stipe would probably finish him in the first round.

If both men went into the ring in both their primes, I would have to give it a 80/20 for Fedor. If it's in a cage the odds favor Stipe's experience far more so that split would be 65/35. Fedor has shown to be a bit of a fish out of water when in a cage compared to a ring where he uses the corners to trap men.

 

[Silverstar17]

The most overrated (while still great, arguably the greatest) HW vs the most underrated HW champ ever.

I cannot pick this one. Fedor had a ton of speed for a HW but he was wild and often times reckless. Stipe has more power and size plus wrestling.

Great fight.

 

[Sirwastealot]

I remember when Stipe - after Struve defeat - was mediocre firefighter with low level sport background here and now he is the alltime HW. Check the comments after his next defeat sometime. His reputation and legacy will be everything but great. This is the forum

This always happens at HW, you string together 2-3 good wins and some people will start talking about you as a legend. Get 5 good wins in a row and you are reaching god status. But of course then you lose one fight and the same people start shitting on you.

Imagine if ngannou had beat stipe, i guarantee you instead of calling him mediocre fans would be hyping him up calling him an unbeatable monster. They were almost doing that after he beat overeem. It's a very thin line, but it's also pretty meaningless.

Think about what Fedor did, 10 years undefeated at HW, there's just no comparison. If Stipe beats DC he might become the 2nd best HW of all time, but the gap between him and Fedor is still pretty big.

 

[ArkhamAsylum]

Prime V Prime threads =

 

[Typrune Goatley]

 

[PEDS Help me Post]

Stipe

Fedor is the HW GOAT but he wouldn't have his near perfect record coming up in this era


If Fedor came up in this era and defended against Stipe, Werdum, Reem, JDS, Cain, and DC, he would have alot more loses

Before you put on your nostalgia glasses and say he would beat them all, lets actually look at who Fedor beat in Pride.

Brett Rogers (Laughable, and Fedor struggled a bit)

Chinny Andre Arvolski (Chinner and worse striking than Reem)

Tim Sylvia (Past his prime but Fedor murdered him)

Choi Hong-man (yikes)

Matt Linland (lmao)

Mark Hunt (0 ground game, you know he's improved that leaps and bound training at ATT)

Mark Coleman (Gasses walking to the ring)

zuluzinho (pathetic)


his best wins are Prime Nog and Cro Cop, who were fucking monsters

But 200-year-old Stipe would never get KOED by a MW.

It's like Silva losing to Conor Mcgregor. Doesn't matter if Silva today is out of his prime if he loses to Conor its bad. Don't @ me trying to argue Silva and Conor is not the same size difference between Fedor and Dan Henderson justifying it by a few pounds and inches. You know dam well what my main point is

Silva vs McGregor? Are you retarded? lol


Silva has a much larger size advantage over McGregor than Fedor did over Henderson.

Especially when you factor in that Hendo had some pharmaceutical help.

for this fight:
Fedor Emelianenko: 6'0 223 lbs 74.5 inch reach *fairly high fat percentage
Dan Henderson: 6'1 207 lbs 74 inch reach ** Ripped and on TRT thanks to a doctor's note


Conor McGregor: 5'9 168 lbs 74 inch reach
Anderson Silva 6'2 200 lbs 77.5 inch reach


As you can see.... there's a FAR larger difference between Silva/McGregor than Fedor/Henderson.

The size difference between Hendo and Fedor was basically a few layers of fat and that's it. Easily negated by Hendo's doctors note that gave him his "knockout power".

 

[Wicked_1]

Fedor KOs Stipe easy. Sorry that people think Stipe is even close, as he isn't. Fedor has speed, power, ground game, iq, everything. Fedor would hit him 5x before he knew what happened.Would be a very very Longshot for Stipe to pull out a victory, less than punchers chance.

 

[thomnasty]

Prime/not-coming-of-an-injury/sea level/pre-usasda Cain beats both, IMO.

 

[ReadWrite]

Now that Stipe is champ again, after beating Cormier, despite getting badly beaten for much of the fight, does it move him closer to Fedor in GOAT ranking?

 

[Hey Soos]

Is this even a question ? If fedor can't do well in bellator. A b level fight organization. What makes these fedorks fans think that he can do well in the ufc ?

 

[Summoning]

Is this even a question ? If fedor can't do well in bellator. A b level fight organization. What makes these fedorks fans think that he can do well in the ufc ?

Do you know how to read? The title said PRIME Fedor, the Fedor who made it to the finals in the Bellator HW tournament fighting 3 times in a year was +40 years old coming out of retirement.

 

[Hey Soos]

Do you know how to read? The title said PRIME Fedor, the Fedor who made it to the finals in the Bellator HW tournament fighting 3 times in a year was +40 years old coming out of retirement.

The level of competition during fedor's prime was piss poor. Pride was nothing but filled with freak shows, washed up ufc fighters, and cans. Fedor got destroyed by a freaking middleweight. How can someone be called the greatest hw of all time when he got knocked out by someone 2 weight classes down . If fedor in his prime transitioned into ufc. He would have been known as a journeyman and become irrelevant.

 

[JKS]

Fedor knocks Stipe out.

 

[JKS]

The level of competition during fedor's prime was piss poor. Pride was nothing but filled with freak shows, washed up ufc fighters, and cans. Fedor got destroyed by a freaking middleweight. How can someone be called the greatest hw of all time when he got knocked out by someone 2 weight classes down . If fedor in his prime transitioned into ufc. He would have been known as a journeyman and become irrelevant.

Fedor had a very good level of competition in Pride facing among the best HW's of all time. The division had many top HWs, although Fedor didn't face them all he still did fight Big Nog 3x, Cro Cop, Hunt, Herring, Shilt, and then Arlovski and Sylvia after Pride. That right there is 9 fights that are all good to top level HWs.....not to mention fighters like Randleman and Coleman who still in 2004 were good HWs.

It's funny how people call Hendo a MW when he fought Fedor to trying and spin the narrative their way. Fact of the matter is that when Hendo fought Fedor he was a LHW for almost two years and the LHW champ in SF.....and following that fight he spent the next 4 years at LHW. So no he was not a MW when he fought Fedor in the same way that Cormier wasn't a LHW when Stipe beat him.

You're point about Fedor in his prime transitioning to the UFC and becoming irrelevant is just idiotic.....you sound like you have no clue what you'r talking about. Fedor KO'd two UFC champs who were the two best UFC HWs from 2003 to 2008 in one round. And he finished a few other very easily in Pride.

You talk shit about Fedor fighting lesser comp and cans. The UFC champs pretty much fought low level of comp consistently. Going back to Arlovksli and Sylvia to Cormier.