Opinion POTWR 2019 Vol 10: What Do You Like About The War Room And What Would You Change?

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I'm sure that's going way too far, but out of curiosity, who do you think are the reasonable right-wing posters here?

If you'll give some time I'll try to put together some folks . . . but to be honest I don't know that I'd be completely familiar with every political POV of the various folks who I might add here.
 
I'm sure that's going way too far, but out of curiosity, who do you think are the reasonable right-wing posters here?

If you'll give some time I'll try to put together some folks . . . but to be honest I don't know that I'd be completely familiar with every political POV of the various folks who I might add here.

Dont ask me why but for some reason I view @Son of Jamin and @TheGreatA as right wing posters and some of the best posters in this sub. Am I way off here?
 
I think I just like non Americans perspectives on different issues.
 
@Jack V Savage for better or worse, right, middle or otherwise . . . and I hate making lists because I'll leave someone out.

Reasonable middle or slightly right of middle . . . maybe even left of middle on some topics posters . . .

@Cubo de Sangre @RerouteToRemain @Stoic1 @Sketch @georges snipierre @LogicalInsanity @Farmer Br0wn @Gregolian @IngaVovchanchyn

And again . . . I hate lists. I'll leave someone out.

Sorry to those I may have missed . . . I'm old and don't really pay that close attention to this sort of thing.
 
@Jack V Savage for better or worse, right, middle or otherwise . . . and I hate making lists because I'll leave someone out.

Reasonable middle or slightly right of middle . . . maybe even left of middle on some topics posters . . .

@Cubo de Sangre @RerouteToRemain @Stoic1 @Sketch @georges snipierre @LogicalInsanity @Farmer Br0wn @Gregolian @IngaVovchanchyn

And again . . . I hate lists. I'll leave someone out.

Sorry to those I may have missed . . . I'm old and don't really pay that close attention to this sort of thing.

Judothrow is pretty good imo
 
Generally, ignore the mandate for "traffic" and take stronger action against shitposters, clickbaiters, slanderers, stalkers, etc. That would clean up close to half of the problem. The other half of the problem is that most people are stupid, but that's something we just have to live with.
 
@Jack V Savage for better or worse, right, middle or otherwise . . . and I hate making lists because I'll leave someone out.

Reasonable middle or slightly right of middle . . . maybe even left of middle on some topics posters . . .

@Cubo de Sangre @RerouteToRemain @Stoic1 @Sketch @georges snipierre @LogicalInsanity @Farmer Br0wn @Gregolian @IngaVovchanchyn

And again . . . I hate lists. I'll leave someone out.

Sorry to those I may have missed . . . I'm old and don't really pay that close attention to this sort of thing.

Thanks. I mean, yikes. But thanks for answering.

FWIW, my list would be Pan, Denter, wai, TheGreatA, MMAisGod, Cajun, Captain, JTF, IH, and subthug. Not always reasonable, but who is? Those are guys you can usually have productive discussions with on most issues even if you disagree and who hold actual positions on issues and philosophical views (as opposed to just supporting whatever their party does, though I wouldn't say that they're immune from tribalism). I recently asked one of your list to spell out "conservative principles," but she was unable to. While the people I list have different philosophical views (all on the right), I think most of them could do that, and in an interesting way.
 
Jack obviously thinks I’m some pleb
 
Thanks. I mean, yikes. But thanks for answering.

FWIW, my list would be Pan, Denter, wai, TheGreatA, MMAisGod, Cajun, Captain, JTF, IH, and subthug. Not always reasonable, but who is? Those are guys you can usually have productive discussions with on most issues even if you disagree and who hold actual positions on issues and philosophical views (as opposed to just supporting whatever their party does, though I wouldn't say that they're immune from tribalism). I recently asked one of your list to spell out "conservative principles," but she was unable to. While the people I list have different philosophical views (all on the right), I think most of them could do that, and in an interesting way.

Interesting list . . .
 
Generally, ignore the mandate for "traffic" and take stronger action against shitposters, clickbaiters, slanderers, stalkers, etc. That would clean up close to half of the problem. The other half of the problem is that most people are stupid, but that's something we just have to live with.

Get a life
 
...... @Warlord Palis is the only yellow in this thread that I see. We know Palis likes to be an edge lord sometimes. For the most part the mods here do a decent job. To pretend like the right has any thicker skin than the left is assuming to me as well. There are just as many people reporting on the right as the left, yet you fail to call those guys out. Your partisanship is showing through here brother.


Well, I remember the further right posters insulting most everyone else and calling them babies etc then forming some Private Message clique because they were continuously being embarrassed in threads, then spamming a seizure-bomb gif to people in a giant PM that I was actually on, even though I don't think I'm nearly to the left as many posters here.

So the thick skin thing is just a joke to me. It reminds me of in school a douche he was always acting abrasive and hard then one time a teacher started chewing him out a little and he broke down and started crying. At first everybody thought it was a joke like he was pretending to cry, but nope, he actually started balling his eyes out. I think a lot of the abrasive posters are like that person.
 
To answer the question, the lounge thread is the only thread here I read somewhat religiously. I really like it, mostly because waste of space posters largely avoid it.

My biggest gripe is the amount of anecdotal bizarre event atrocity-porn-type threads.

Like some bizarre event takes place and people use it for outrage and pin it on the entirety of what people on the other side of the spectrum support.

Seems to be less of that as of late going on, but I remember one thread that really had no political relevance. It was a murder case. Nothing more, except it just so happened that black persons killed a white person. No evidence of racial motivation or nothing. Next thing you know, some shitposter is posting a video of a adult white male knocking out a female young teen. Shit like that is just absurd.
 
Like: The people.

Dislike: That almost everyone is so angry, often bitter, and motivated mostly by hatred born of fear.

Then again, I would prefer there be a "peace room," where we talk about afternoon tea, our favorite poets, and probably play with dolls.

Also, with flourishing of the pinky-finger and a lot of frilly lace.

 
Then again, I would prefer there be a "peace room," where we talk about afternoon tea, our favorite poets, and probably play with dolls.

That is exactly what the lounge is for.
 
"The war room was never great"
"dog whistle"
"Only when our side uses that saying it is acceptable"

The best of the War Room always comes after a U.S. election where there is a shift of power.

Winners: WE WON! YOU LOST! I TOLD YOU SO! FREEDOM RULES! USA! USA! USA! USA!

Losers: MY LIFE IS OVER! MY DEMOCRACIES ARE GONE! FASCISM IS THE ONLY WINNAR!
 
The best of the War Room always comes after a U.S. election where there is a shift of power.

Winners: WE WON! YOU LOST! I TOLD YOU SO! FREEDOM RULES! USA! USA! USA! USA!

Losers: MY LIFE IS OVER! MY DEMOCRACIES ARE GONE! FASCISM IS THE ONLY WINNAR!

What bothers me more than that kind of thing (which doesn't really happen to a large extent, anyway) is the reversals on *issues*. When I found the WR, right-wingers were all convinced that monetary policy was too loose. Sounds crazy now, but it was a really commonly expressed view that hyperinflation was just around the corner. I remember trying to explain the standard view, which was that the purpose of monetary policy is to regulate demand--we need it looser when we have a lot of unused capacity and tighter when we're at capacity and additional demand just drives prices up. Got called a "Bernanke shill" and variations of that for it (@Wingslaught can attest to that). Then as soon as the election happened, the professional right totally reversed on it, and even with very low unemployment, they were calling for *lower* rates, indicating that the concern was fake all along, and their position really just boils down to, "we should try to hurt the economy when a Democrat is in the WH and help it when a Republican is." The exact same thing happened with fiscal policy, when we were seeing people screech that high deficits caused by the GFC were an existential threat to the country that we needed to address immediately even though unemployment was high and most economists were calling for higher deficits. And then, with no rational justification for a switch, deficits suddenly stopped mattering in November 2016, and the Trump tax cut met almost no opposition from the "deficits are a catastrophe" people.

I really thought that people were just honestly getting things wrong, and that presenting the issues rationally would cause a change. But the immediate 180 that everyone took after the election suggests that at the level of professional pundit, they never bought it, and at the level of the typical WR poster, they just blindly trusted the pundits.
 
What bothers me more than that kind of thing (which doesn't really happen to a large extent, anyway) is the reversals on *issues*. When I found the WR, right-wingers were all convinced that monetary policy was too loose. Sounds crazy now, but it was a really commonly expressed view that hyperinflation was just around the corner. I remember trying to explain the standard view, which was that the purpose of monetary policy is to regulate demand--we need it looser when we have a lot of unused capacity and tighter when we're at capacity and additional demand just drives prices up. Got called a "Bernanke shill" and variations of that for it (@Wingslaught can attest to that). Then as soon as the election happened, the professional right totally reversed on it, and even with very low unemployment, they were calling for *lower* rates, indicating that the concern was fake all along, and their position really just boils down to, "we should try to hurt the economy when a Democrat is in the WH and help it when a Republican is." The exact same thing happened with fiscal policy, when we were seeing people screech that high deficits caused by the GFC were an existential threat to the country that we needed to address immediately even though unemployment was high and most economists were calling for higher deficits. And then, with no rational justification for a switch, deficits suddenly stopped mattering in November 2016, and the Trump tax cut met almost no opposition from the "deficits are a catastrophe" people.

I really thought that people were just honestly getting things wrong, and that presenting the issues rationally would cause a change. But the immediate 180 that everyone took after the election suggests that at the level of professional pundit, they never bought it, and at the level of the typical WR poster, they just blindly trusted the pundits.

I thought that people were just honestly getting things wrong, and that presenting the issues rationally would really cause a change. But the immediate 180 that everyone took after the election suggests that at the level of professional pundit, they never bought it, and at the level of the typical WR poster, they just blindly trusted the pundits. I got called a 'Bernanke shill" and variations of that for it (@Wingslaught can attest to that). Then as soon as the election happened, the professional right totally reversed on it, and even with very low unemployment, they were calling for *lower* rates, indicating that the concern was fake all along, and their position really just boils down to, "we should try to hurt the economy when a Democrat is in the WH and help it when a Republican is."

I don't think Democrats have the right people nominated for 2020.
 
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