Possible Sasquatch encounter happened last night.

[DoomPatrol]

Its pathetic.

@BearGrounds and yourself fending off a rock attack from a bigfoot

I know using science and reason to come to logical and likely conclusions is a pathetic thing in your eyes.

 

[franklinstower]

He made it very clear that it was a steep rocky hill. Rocks fall all the fucking time in nature in rocky, hilly terrain. Everything from animal traffic to weather can cause things to come loose and eventually crash down. Rocks also do this thing called bouncing. There are plenty of natural and reasonable conditions that would explain rocks falling. There's also plenty to suggest that his description of basketball sized rocks hurled into a rainbow above his head might not be an entirely accurate assessment of the situation. Absolutely nothing happened that makes Bigfoot a more reasonable thought than gravity and natural phenomena.

The big thing you continue to miss is the fact that there IS NO SOMEONE in this whole rocks thing. He never saw any personal or animal throwing shit. He heard rocks coming down and off a steep hill. He would have to be firing blindly into the woods to react to that situation because he didn't identify anyone with lethal intent or behaving in a grossly negligent fashion to endanger his life. It's as silly as me going through the woods at night and having a tree fall near me so I start blasting away in that direction assuming it's lumberjacks trying to crush my head instead of just a tree falling.

This thread started with nonsense from post fucking 1 and you continued the nonsense to page 5. There is no assailant to shoot at that he identified. If there was one that he could identify, I would be of a different opinion. Although ironically military and police are usually not allowed to fire upon protesters throwing rocks. I've had plenty of them thrown at me in Ramadi when I was a gunner on a truck. Never blasted those kids for slinging rocks at me. But I guess I don't know what it's like to be a target of rock throwing despite being a target of rock throwing.

There are no facts. There is only testimony, and that can absolutely be scrutinized. I haven't made up a single alternative fact. I've posited reasonable alternative explanations for why he might have seen what he claims to have witnessed.

It's funny you talk about making up facts when you end your post with a hard statement "whoever is doing that". That's an alternative fact. He never saw anyone or anything causing rocks to fall near him. He did however say there was a steep rocky hill. We do however know there's a thing called gravity and another thing called momentum. We do however know that rocks come loose and things like gravity and momentum cause them to fall. We do know through the science of projectile motion that objects in a free fall that have forward motion will fall in an arc, very much like what a rainbow looks like.

It's like you've never studied science or something. It's also like you've never heard of gun safety rules like "know you're target and what lies beyond". People use hills as a backstop on rifle ranges because they both know there is nobody innocent on that hill and they are shooting into targets using a known backstop that's safe. They don't just shoot up into hills with no clue what they are firing at because that's not responsible.

Rocks dont fall in a rainbow arch overheard man. Rainbows go "UP" first. The thread starter says they flew over his head in a rainbow arch. Thats what we have to go on here.

Obviously the most likely scenario, just like in the case of what happened to me, is someone was throwing.the rocks, basketball sized ones, you know, like those little kids were throwing at you......
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Science is not on your side here in fact it is just the opposite.

 

[DoomPatrol]

It doesn't look like a rainbow arch over your head that is for sure.

You are using alternative facts. Not surprised. Sad.......

Holy fuck. I even provided for you the exact subject matter you would need to look at. Tell me what this fucking path reminds you of?

Maybe a rainbow arc? That's coming straight off a flat plane. Now imagine it rolls and hits a bump or slight incline right before it goes off a ledge. That doesn't resemble the arc that a rainbow would have to you? That's assuming that we even have an accurate testimony of how it fell. He's looking up at something coming over from him in the DARK while frightened.

If I make a post saying that I thought I saw Jennifer Lopez sucking off Trump in a limo, but it was too dark to see them are you going to default accept every word of my claim?

 

[franklinstower]

Holy fuck. I even provided for you the exact subject matter you would need to look at. Tell me what this fucking path reminds you of?

Maybe a rainbow arc? That's coming straight off a flat plane. Now imagine it rolls and hits a bump or slight incline right before it goes off a ledge. That doesn't resemble the arc that a rainbow would have to you?

I see why you have made that scenario up in your head but that's not what the ts meant dummy.

Those are your alternative facts.

 

[DoomPatrol]

I see why you have made that scenario up in your head but.thats not what the ts meant dummy.

Those are your alternative facts.

Again, there are no FACTS. There are claims. As I edited in my previous post before you quoted me, if I saw a limo drive by and made the claim that I think it was Jennifer Lopez sucking off Donald Trump but I couldn't actually see inside the limo, then are you going to decide that I made a perfect assumption of what happened and that any other claims about the situation inside the limo are alternative facts because I didn't claim that in my post?

By the way, that's a more reasonable situation to believe than Bigfoot throwing boulders at a fisherman while owl hooting in West Virginia.

Humans are flawed perception machines. What he thinks he saw isn't necessarily what he actually saw. Therefore you have to take reason and common sense into account when looking at claims. If a boulder rolls off a ledge with forward motion OVER YOUR HEAD WHILE YOU ARE SCARED, you could very easily make the mistake of thinking it had upward motion at some point. It could also have upward motion from natural causes without the requirement of inserting a mythical ape species into the equation.

 

[franklinstower]

Again, there are no FACTS. There are claims. As I edited in my previous post before you quoted me, if I saw a limo drive by and made the claim that I think it was Jennifer Lopez sucking off Donald Trump but I couldn't actually see inside the limo, then are you going to decide that I made a perfect assumption of what happened and that any other claims about the situation inside the limo are alternative facts because I didn't claim that in my post?

By the way, that's a more reasonable situation to believe than Bigfoot throwing boulders at a fisherman while owl hooting in West Virginia.

Claims by the person there are worth more than claims made by you who was not there. Obviously.

Your explanation requires alternative facts, made up by someone who was not there, and an idiot at that. You are stuck with this because you overstepped and mocked his potential use of a gun so now you CANNOT admit the most likely possibility. A very large strong person with ill intent was throwing rocks.........

Its easy to debunk when you use alternative facts.

 

[DoomPatrol]

Claims by there person there are worth more than claims made by you who was not there. Obviously.

Your explanation requires alternative facts, made up by someone who was not there, and an idiot at that. You are stuck with this because you overstepped and mocked his potential use of a gun so now you CANNOT admit the most likely possibility. A very large strong person with ill intent was throwing rocks.........

Its easy to debunk when you use alternative facts.

You think the most likely possibility is there was someone on top of this hill who magically arrived at this remote location with no vehicle? Then this evil doer snuck on top of a hill to find a fisherman and decided to start hurling basketball sized rocks in a rainbow arc to scare/murder a fisherman? Not that rocks on hills are known to fall down said hills and that projectile motion easily explains how they could fall in that type of fashion. That it's more likely to be the infamous Lake Rock Bandit trying to strike again? Or it's the teenage world champion strongman practicing rock throwing at fisherman in the woods of West Virginia at night?

I made a perfect assessment of using a firearm in that situation by the way. You choose to ignore it because you're an irrational person.

It's easy to accept his story at face value when you're a gullible moron without critical thinking skills.

 

[rj144]

It just sounds like you were listening to, dare I say, Rolling Stones and ran into Mick Jagger in the forest.

 

[franklinstower]

You think the most likely possibility is there was someone on top of this hill who magically arrived at this remote location with no vehicle? Then this evil doer snuck on top of a hill to find a fisherman and decided to start hurling basketball sized rocks in a rainbow arc to scare/murder a fisherman? Not that rocks on hills are known to fall down said hills and that projectile motion easily explains how they could fall in that type of fashion. That it's more likely to be the infamous Lake Rock Bandit trying to strike again? Or it's the teenage world champion strongman practicing rock throwing at fisherman in the woods of West Virginia at night?

I made a perfect assessment of using a firearm in that situation by the way. You choose to ignore it because you're an irrational person.

It's easy to accept his story at face value when you're a gullible moron without critical thinking skills.

That happened to me twice in one month near midnight at a lake only accessible by hiking......

I addressed your comical comparison of boulders being thrown at you in the middle of the woods at night and kids throwing small rocks at you in the daylight while you are with your soldier buddies yes. Its a stupid comparison.

At this point you are just trying to save face with the other idiots who prefer alternative facts and don't read threads.

 

[TheNinja]

We only have his story to go on. We cannot go making up alternative facts.. The rocks were flying over and near his head. You can shoot into a hill....... at whoever is doing that.

Thats where you fire guns for safety BTW, into hills.....

Its like you guys have never been to the woods or something.

I've shot weapons. Some of you guys are also reading things into it that he didn't say. He never said to fire a weapon into the hill as a "warning shot". He simply said he would "end the threat" whatever that meant.

Did he mean shoot blindly into the bushes? Did he mean to shoot into the air? Did he mean shoot into the dirt/hill where he could see where the bullet would go? We don't know.

And yes, I know dirt stops bullets and that's what you use as a background at a gun range and such. I'm not a complete moron.....I mean I am your average Sherdogger so I have an IQ of at least 160 or more.

 

[MusterX]

I got the feeling that the misses were intentional, but definitely to scare me. But I was not operating on that assumption because of the absolutely lethal threat these rocks posed. The rock that I saw traveled a good distance. It arced in a rainbow. Even before my surgery, I was pretty damn strong and I couldn’t have thrown that rock but a few feet.

Here is the problem, assuming your story is 100% legit and at least fairly accurate. I have to assume that since you are a cop, your power of observation is fairly good. If the rock was the size of a basketball, you are talking a 50-100 pound rock depending on the actual size and type of rock it was. No human can pick up a rock that size and just heave it 50 feet, a strongman couldn't throw it more than 20 feet I'm guessing and that would be one of the strongest humans on Earth.

I have to assume that no strongmen were out in the middle of nowhere throwing large heavy rocks at you. That doesn't seem likely. Animals don't throw rocks, so...

Yea, the story is a real problem. If what you say is true and accurate I have no way to explain it. Its highly unlikely that in a remote area, at dusk, some people were randomly fucking with you but also able to stay completely out of sight and never be seen as they pursued you to your car while throwing large rocks. That's another thing, when a human picks up a rock to throw, they pick up one that fits nicely in the palm, not one that they can barely lift.

 

[franklinstower]

I've shot weapons. Some of you guys are also reading things into it that he didn't say. He never said to fire a weapon into the hill as a "warning shot". He simply said he would "end the threat" whatever that meant.

Did he mean shoot blindly into the bushes? Did he mean to shoot into the air? Did he mean shoot into the dirt/hill where he could see where the bullet would go? We don't know.

And yes, I know dirt stops bullets and that's what you use as a background at a gun range and such. I'm not a complete moron.....I mean I am your average Sherdogger so I have an IQ of at least 160 or more.

TS did not state he shot into the hill. Only that he felt so threatened that he would have. Then other posters compared that scenario to randomly

Here is the problem, assuming your story is 100% legit and at least fairly accurate. I have to assume that since you are a cop, your power of observation is fairly good. If the rock was the size of a basketball, you are talking a 50-100 pound rock depending on the actual size and type of rock it was. No human can pick up a rock that size and just heave it 50 feet, a strongman couldn't throw it more than 20 feet I'm guessing and that would be one of the strongest humans on Earth.

I have to assume that no strongmen were out in the middle of nowhere throwing large heavy rocks at you. That doesn't seem likely. Animals don't throw rocks, so...

Yea, the story is a real problem. If what you say is true and accurate I have no way to explain it. Its highly unlikely that in a remote area, at dusk, some people were randomly fucking with you but also able to stay completely out of sight and never be seen as they pursued you to your car while throwing large rocks. That's another thing, when a human picks up a rock to throw, they pick up one that fits nicely in the palm, not one that they can barely lift.

This happened to me twice in one month at a lake you can only hike to at around midnight. The second time I was trailed out by something that sounded big and was breaking branches for a quarter of a mile. It got very close towards the end. I was terrified.

 

[JOE QUEEF]

Worst thread evar.

I wanna buy a gun next year.

please be careful

 

[Medulla Omoplata]

Worst thread evar.




please be careful

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

Maybe it was some really buff teenage ninja hooligans

 

[franklinstower]

Worst thread evar.




please be careful

Its very interesting to me. Lets assume there is no bigfoot at all. The strange things that happen in the woods are still very interesting to me.

 

[Scrody]

He made it very clear that it was a steep rocky hill. Rocks fall all the fucking time in nature in rocky, hilly terrain. Everything from animal traffic to weather can cause things to come loose and eventually crash down. Rocks also do this thing called bouncing. There are plenty of natural and reasonable conditions that would explain rocks falling. There's also plenty to suggest that his description of basketball sized rocks hurled into a rainbow above his head might not be an entirely accurate assessment of the situation. Absolutely nothing happened that makes Bigfoot a more reasonable thought than gravity and natural phenomena.

The big thing you continue to miss is the fact that there IS NO SOMEONE in this whole rocks thing. He never saw any personal or animal throwing shit. He heard rocks coming down and off a steep hill. He would have to be firing blindly into the woods to react to that situation because he didn't identify anyone with lethal intent or behaving in a grossly negligent fashion to endanger his life. It's as silly as me going through the woods at night and having a tree fall near me so I start blasting away in that direction assuming it's lumberjacks trying to crush my head instead of just a tree falling.

This thread started with nonsense from post fucking 1 and you continued the nonsense to page 5. There is no assailant to shoot at that he identified. If there was one that he could identify, I would be of a different opinion. Although ironically military and police are usually not allowed to fire upon protesters throwing rocks. I've had plenty of them thrown at me in Ramadi when I was a gunner on a truck. Never blasted those kids for slinging rocks at me. But I guess I don't know what it's like to be a target of rock throwing despite being a target of rock throwing.

You seem upset that cops and civilians can shoot at threats quicker than the military can. You know why I don't care about this anecdotal story? You were never by yourself in Iraq. Cops don't have to meet the same standard for lethal force as soldiers, because soldiers don't pull over a car by themselves in the middle of the night. You're being a real buzzkill. We understand how badass and level headed you are. You go away now.

 

[LiLoMMA]

I really think @nhbbear should reconsider waiting until spring to go back. He could go back in the daytime to survey the area the rocks came from and have more relevant information, not just for us to discuss, but in general, for him to make sense of what he experienced.

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

Possible Sasquatch more like

 

[Scrody]

@nhbbear this happened earlier this year. But I'm out west.

Me and my brother have been to one particular spot that we've had two strange experiences at, one that I'm certain was the Foot himself.

The first time that we went out there, we heard a gigantic bipedal creature take off across a bunch of rocks next to a river, as well as blowing through the brush. I remember getting the wiggins because it didn't sound like anything I'd heard before.

The second time, a large rock was hurled into a creek right next to the trail we were on, and we heard repeated knocks on trees around us. We were fairly positive of being alone, as it's a 45 minute drive on a gravel road and then the hike starts. We were on our way out, didn't see anyone after the incident and the trail head was empty except for our vehicle.