Possible Sasquatch encounter happened last night.

Almost all police are armed with AR-15s or shotguns in their vehicles and they get everything they need to stay safe. If they were in a dangerous enough environment to move from pistols to rifles, they would and will do so, but they don't. Saying we outnumbered the enemy in Fallujah (ignoring the countless others where we don't outnumber them), is like saying the police outnumber anyone they would pull over because there are more police minutes away with a radio call. I notice you shy away from the painfully obvious fact that the weaponry used against the military is exponentially more threatening to a soldier's safety than an officer facing some gangbanger with a pistol. Battle of Wanat for example. About 50 soldiers vs anywhere up to 200 enemy. Battle of Kamdesh. I can go on for days about the battles that military members face, which is why we go out in larger numbers. You're using some seriously retarded logic which is why you have to selectively address my points. It's why you ignore the fact that police call the military when they can't handle a situation, not the other way around. Only someone trying to make a jackass point would say police are in a higher threat environment than military members in combat. Prime example was my unit. We suffered more casualties in 7 months in my single unit in a single city than the police did all year from ALL incidents combined across the nation.
This isn't a debate. Cops have lower thresholds for shooting people than the military, but the military gets a pass big time when it comes to civilian casualties. That's not a point of view of mine.

It's hard to compose an intelligent response.
I'm sure it is.

I don't think it was a rock that was chucked over your head, but if for some insane reason it happened I would go with stoner hanging out in the woods, bird dropped it, you're fabricating a story online for entertainment.

Okay, well you're wrong.

I get it. Reality is boring. The truth isn't as entertaining as a fantasy world you want people to participate in. I don't have the luxury of imagining ridiculous things are true because my brain doesn't have a believe in obvious bullshit button.
My reality isn't boring lol I was out in the woods scouting for animals when it happened, not imagining bullshit at home. My brother also was there, if that adds credibility.
Oh story time... this one time I was out picking clovers and I found a gold ring. It must have been a leprechaun because how else could something have landed in a clover field?

This Neil Degrasse Tyson video feels oh so relevant right now about you idiots being so certain about things you can't identify.



Going from I don't know what it is to therefore it must be X is retarded logic.

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Oddly enough we were held highly accountable when we discharged our weapons. I know several Marines in my unit were given NJPs for negligent discharges that hurt nobody and we were in the height of the fighting in that city.
Uh huh
 
This isn't a debate. Cops have lower thresholds for shooting people than the military, but the military gets a pass big time when it comes to civilian casualties. That's not a point of view of mine.

A debate is exactly what this is...

"a formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward."

I'm sure it is.

I love how much of my posts you have to edit out to make your bullshit response seem even remotely plausible. Remind me again, when was the last time we discovered a new species of mammal in the North American wilderness that humans didn't already know about and have physical evidence for? Or is big foot the ONLY species in the "vast" wilderness of the United States that we just can't find?

Okay, well you're wrong.



Is that you caught on video? Sounds a lot like you.

My reality isn't boring lol I was out in the woods scouting for animals when it happened, not imagining bullshit at home. My brother also was there, if that adds credibility.

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So I guess while you're talking to me on the internet forum you're out in the woods leading some exciting life that I'm not? Does in your small head the fact that during the day I have access to the internet that I never go do things? What the fuck are you even trying to say? I get why you're reality is exciting. Your reality allows you to imagine yourself to be the subject of serial big foot harassment. My boring reality is just compromised of things that can be proven.
 
A debate is exactly what this is...

"a formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward."
God damn. I meant its not a debate as in this is accepted by everyone in society.

I love how much of my posts you have to edit out to make your bullshit response seem even remotely plausible. Remind me again, when was the last time we discovered a new species of mammal in the North American wilderness that humans didn't already know about and have physical evidence for? Or is big foot the ONLY species in the "vast" wilderness of the United States that we just can't find?

It's because your posts suck. And I did, just a few posts ago. Fucking moron lol.




Is that you caught on video? Sounds a lot like you.

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So I guess while you're talking to me on the internet forum you're out in the woods leading some exciting life that I'm not? Does in your small head the fact that during the day I have access to the internet that I never go do things? What the fuck are you even trying to say? I get why you're reality is exciting. Your reality allows you to imagine yourself to be the subject of serial big foot harassment. My boring reality is just compromised of things that can be proven.
I meant that as in the day it happened....I was in the woods...Gawd you're dumb.
Wipe the drool off your chin buddy.
You're the one frothing at the mouth. Go take a nap.
 
Nothing to add other than lithgow's performance in harry and the henderson's deserved oscar consideration

'87 academy had their heads up their asses
 
Now this I totally agree with. I don't know if there is bigfoot or not. But I do know I've heard many stories from many sources about strange things in the woods/forest/swamp/etc.

These may just be normal creatures doing normal creature stuff and maybe our minds are just playing tricks on us. But I am always interested in these stories of things that go bump in the night and paranormal things.


That is me. I had a rock throwing and being followed out incident twice in one month at a remote lake that you have to hike into and it was nearly midnight both times and camping is illegal there. Now it could be bigfoot BUT it is also completely possible that the same trickster was there both evenings just like I was.

You might say that is unlikely but what happened to me did happen so what was it? Whatever it is it will seem unlikely to us but stranger coincidences have happened.

The TS story could be a similar trickster who has built a catapult on that hill and uses it to throw rocks and likes to mess with people occasionally. Something threw those rocks and a cant be just a normal human doing it with strength so then what was it?

You might ask what would motivate someone to do that? Well I hate to say so but I can see the fun in it. The thought that you could cause someone to question their reality and get them to believe in bigfoot could be very motivating for some people.

I am also completely open to a small and possibly near extinction population of a type of humanoid thought to have died out that remains hidden from our knowledge.

This is very interesting no matter what it was.
 
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One of my favorite things about sherdog is how any thread can go of topic and turn into a heated debate about something the thread isn't even remotely about lol
 
I'm pretty sure the last words any same person wishes to utter are 'I think I saw a bigfoot'. However there must be an experience so moving and fearful that it has you questioning your beliefs.
For the Bigfoot non-believers, I ask you once to take up the argument as a believer. Better yet , assume you are Bigfoot. The question you want to know is
what do you eat?
Where is my range?
How do I maintain a breeding population?
How do I avoid humans?

Now I have no idea what a Bigfoot might eat, but if you can eat acorns, you can find enough food on a single acre in the northeast. Add carcasses and berries you have quite a bit of readily available food sources.

The record time for the Appalachian trail is 41 days. Amazing. While I don't know if Bigfoot is a ultra marathon trail runner, but it gives you an idea of the capacity of bipedal locomotion. Access to vast territory of open wilderness or unpopulated pockets isn't an issue.
If I wished to remain out of human sight, it would be easy to do so. The age of exploration is over. Noone is searching for new species.
If I encountered a random human I would like try to scare him off and then move on to a new territory.

With an open analytical approach to the subject, it can quickly turn to possible.
 
I have never heard as many owls as I have heard the past two months since I started fishing again this late at night. And these owls did sound “off” but I am not suggesting the owl sounds were related. It was just the only other noise or evidence of animal activity.

I should also mention that there is a duck at that lake that has followed me every single time I have been there. It stays with me the whole time, quacking and messing up the fishing. Last night, the duck did not go with me. Maybe nothing, but it struck me as odd after replaying the incident over and over. There has hardly been any moments that this has not been completely at the front of my thoughts.

BECAUSE THE DUCK WAS THROWING THE ROCKS ITS OBVIOUS!
 
I am not what you would call a believer in the stories that people tell about Sasquatch encounters. However, last night, I had an experience that has left me without explanation...

We'll never know if it was Sasquatch but I have no doubts that this happened to you.

Couple things:
  1. You mentioned walking to your car quite a bit, yet you were in the water most of the time. I'm sure your car was not in the water, so how far into the lake did you walk? We need some sort of visual. How about a google maps image with MS paint enhancements?
  2. You should definitely report this incident. Like another poster said, no reason to bring up sasquatch, but giant rocks being thrown at you is a concern. Remember that family that was camping in california and some weirdo randomly shot at their tent and killed the father? Other people then came forward and said they had bullet holes in their tents in the past. You'll feel terrible if someone down the road gets taken out by a rock in that lake.
  3. When will you go back with backup? Actually, is there a reason to go back? I think most generic horror movies start with some team of explorers looking for the supernatural.

Glad you didn't dieded!
 
Here is the problem, assuming your story is 100% legit and at least fairly accurate. I have to assume that since you are a cop, your power of observation is fairly good. If the rock was the size of a basketball, you are talking a 50-100 pound rock depending on the actual size and type of rock it was. No human can pick up a rock that size and just heave it 50 feet, a strongman couldn't throw it more than 20 feet I'm guessing and that would be one of the strongest humans on Earth.

I have to assume that no strongmen were out in the middle of nowhere throwing large heavy rocks at you. That doesn't seem likely. Animals don't throw rocks, so...

Yea, the story is a real problem. If what you say is true and accurate I have no way to explain it. Its highly unlikely that in a remote area, at dusk, some people were randomly fucking with you but also able to stay completely out of sight and never be seen as they pursued you to your car while throwing large rocks. That's another thing, when a human picks up a rock to throw, they pick up one that fits nicely in the palm, not one that they can barely lift.


That’s just it. I don’t have an explanation. It makes little sense either way. Not all of the rocks were as big as the one I saw, but that one was big. Definitely at least the size of a cantaloupe, up to the size of a basketball. When it hit, it was a very loud “kersploosh” with a hollow sound. It threw water all over the place, including my legs. It was at this point I started to run. This is really bad terrain to run on. It is a slope and there are logs everywhere littered on the ground. In broad daylight, I often fall or slip and end up with wet or muddy feet.

I know stress fucks with your senses. It can make a rock look much bigger, but I was not yet crazily alarmed before the big one hit. At this point, only one rock had landed and it hit fifteen feet in front of me. I knew it wasn’t a fish, but my first thought was not that it was intentionally being thrown at me. I have been fishing all my life. I have been around rock slides, and this was not that. No little rocks or accompanying debris splashing after or before. Just a loud bloop and splash. Then i was looking up the hill trying to figure out what was happening when the second one flew over my head. Then another in front of me, then over my head out into the lake. I was screaming at them to stop after the second rock and it continued. I heard no sounds. No trickle of stuff rolling down the hill, no laughing. Only my heavy breathing and the sound of me trying to move as quickly as i could. As I made progress at least two other rocks were thrown. Neither were close and they were smaller-at least in splash volume. I was still only fifty feet from where it started at this point. When i got close enough to hit my panic alarm on my car, one final rock landed about 25 feet behind me. From the point of origin, the total distance was a few hundred yards.


So, the obvious point is that rock slides do not follow a person. The rocks were thrown-not rolling down the hill, taking crazy bounces to explain the arc of the one i actually saw.

taking into consideration how remote this lake and area are; the steep and probably very difficult to, or nearly impossible to navigate that rocky hillside.

then there is the size of the rocks and distance. I just have many doubts doubts about the average person getting those rocks that distance.
Also, who would sneak up that hill, which would be a trial unto itself, just to fuck with me? They would have been waiting for two hours! That’s some dedication! And anyone throwing rocks that size would have to know that there was a possibility that one error in aim or movement by me, could lead to my death.

In summation, I swear on Anything that this happened. I am certain that the rocks were not just falling down a hill. Certain. I know at least one of the rocks was large-which along with being able to scale the terrain, is my biggest roadblock to simply accepting this was some asshole(s) fucking with me.

I don’t have an explanation how those things happened, but they did.
 
I'm pretty sure the last words any same person wishes to utter are 'I think I saw a bigfoot'. However there must be an experience so moving and fearful that it has you questioning your beliefs.
For the Bigfoot non-believers, I ask you once to take up the argument as a believer. Better yet , assume you are Bigfoot. The question you want to know is
what do you eat?
Where is my range?
How do I maintain a breeding population?
How do I avoid humans?

Now I have no idea what a Bigfoot might eat, but if you can eat acorns, you can find enough food on a single acre in the northeast. Add carcasses and berries you have quite a bit of readily available food sources.

The record time for the Appalachian trail is 41 days. Amazing. While I don't know if Bigfoot is a ultra marathon trail runner, but it gives you an idea of the capacity of bipedal locomotion. Access to vast territory of open wilderness or unpopulated pockets isn't an issue.
If I wished to remain out of human sight, it would be easy to do so. The age of exploration is over. Noone is searching for new species.
If I encountered a random human I would like try to scare him off and then move on to a new territory.

With an open analytical approach to the subject, it can quickly turn to possible.

Ok then I ask you these pretty simple questions.

1. What other 200+lb mammal has been recently discovered in the continental United States that has a range that large that would explain the countless "sightings" and encounters. Mind you, these are animals living in close enough proximity to have human encounters and exhibit aggressive behavior. They aren't running away and hiding at the first sign of humans. They are "throwing boulders" and being spooky to frighten these poor fishermen. All of that while living within close proximity to human civilization. So if it were to be a great ape, based on the behavior of the rest of apes, we wouldn't have much trouble locating and finding it.

2. What other large mammal in the continental United States have we had in popular lore that we couldn't find DNA evidence for but later discovered to be a real animal? If it's so easy for us to have missed such a significant species and apex predator in our woods, why haven't we found anything else?

3. Why is this single species the ONLY species that we can't find clear evidence of in the wild? Even the Amur Leopard only has about 20 specimens in the Russian wilderness and we have clear evidence of them.

Real biologists have no issue finding wild animals that are extremely rare and documenting their existence, even if it's residual evidence from them having been in an area previously. The age of exploration absolutely is NOT over. Biologists spend tons of time finding new species of animals and there are hundreds discovered every year in regions we didn't have access to. The plain fact is, the woods of the United States have been thoroughly explored for centuries. The PNW has been thoroughly explored. The Appalachian Trail has been thoroughly explored. Real animals that exhibit seriously elusive behavior are easily proven to exist with clear photography and DNA based evidence.

With an blindly open analytical approach to the subject and a clear lack of scientific scrutiny, it can quickly turn possible for vampires, trolls, leprechauns, chupacabre, mermaids, Loch Ness, and Asians who are bad at math to exist. Legitimate respected biologists don't take this seriously for a reason.
 
You constantly spew the same rhetoric.
I've asked you to run the exercise from the opposing standpoint, but you have refused.
While I get your point and I am open to no such thing as Bigfoot, Bigfoot is extinct, or Bigfoot is alive and well. But for some odd reason there are at least a few rational people who have claimed encounters or had experience that are not easily explained.
Let me ask: do you believe it is possible that a Bigfoot or bigfoot like creature once existed?
 
To me it's pretty telling it occurred next to a hill. If I had to guess, it was probably a small landslide.

Based on physics, if a rock starts rolling down a hill, gains some velocity, then hits a portion the levels out for a bit, it can be launched like a projectile.
 
I’m not going to judge, but here is my experiences from spending a lot of time in the woods especially at and around dusk/dark. It’s incredibly hard to judge the size of things(in low light) and especially if you’re already a little freaked. So I think it would be very difficult to judge the size of a projectile in low light. I know as a police officer you have dealt with some bad situations but Often times things are very different in the woods. Especially if you’re recovering from back surgery so you aren’t at your strongest
Do I believe in Sasquatch, no so I’m skeptical of all of these incidents.
My best low light story is, buddies and I were camping around a remote lake in Wisconsin. It was around 12am and we were following what we thought was the call of a Saw-whet owl. Not realizing we were very close to the waters edge we suddenly heard what we though was a loud gunshot within feet of us. Everybody fucking panicked and started running a different direction, I have a scar from impaling my shoulder on a tree. It was a fucking beaver that we snuck up on and scared, it slapped its tail on the waters surface.

also, get yourself a high quality flashlight. Since you said you’re recovering from back surgery a slip and fall could be bad anyways. You’re welcome NHbears wife.
 
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