Opinion Poll: Trumpers, Was It Rigged?

[cleetus]

No, you are wrong and live in a fantasy world.

"Well, that’s now been litigated in court—in front of a not-exactly-liberal federal judge, Paul Diamond, a George W. Bush appointee, 20-year corporate lawyer, and former assistant district attorney. Here’s a snippet of the transcript:

Judge Diamond: Are your observers in the counting room?

Trump lawyer: There's a non zero number of people in the room

Judge Diamond: I’m asking you as a member of the bar of this court: are people representing the Donald J Trump for president, representing the plaintiffs, in that room?

Trump lawyer: Yes.

Judge Diamond: I'm sorry, then what's your problem?"


This was the transcript from the actual judge and lawyer in the case you're hung up on. In that very case Trump's own lawyer had to admit what you're saying happened is not true.

All that case decided was how many NON-OFFICIAL election observers could be in the room from each campaign.

State officials and state election workers from both parties were in the count facilities the entire time counting ballots. It was live streamed.

Re-read my post.

 

[Oceanmachine]

My gut tells me and my brain that Trump barely won in 2016 and was helped by GOP fraud and FB and other stuff, Comey etc.

My gut and brain tells me that Trump and the GOP did way too good for Trump to have ended up losing as he did towards the end of the ballot counting. Just all of a sudden in all key states that could reasonably flip or are needed for the GOP. Also, more people who feared Trump before now voted for him and realized he isnt the end of the world.

I think Big Tech and the Dem establishment in failing to impeach Trump or win the Senate in 2018 went all out to ensure Trump would not recieve any positive or sensible coverage in the media. And even with all the forces against him Trump still almost won. I think in this election just like the GOP stole it in 2000 and maybe 2016. This time I think the Democrats committed more fraud.


I am trying to be as unbias as possible and its how I feel. Few other people would say both sides rig and that the GOP stole an election in 2000 and maybe 2016 but then so did the Dems arguably in 2020.

 

[Oceanmachine]

I haven't been posting on the WarRoom much since the election because there's so much that we DON'T know. Are these claims of voter fraud legit? Is this Dominion voter systems switching votes? All evidence, not proof, presented so far is questionable if it would have had a giant impact on the election results.

As far as this extremely speculative 'Release The Kraken' which will somehow prove Trump won the election, it first needs to be released and and then analyzed for legitimacy.

Then, even if it is legitimate, it needs to go through the courts? I have no faith that judges would take up or rule correctly on these cases even if there's absolute proof the Trump won, because even judges don't want to face the consequences, even if they are just socially, of 'overturning' a Presidential election in the eyes of the media.

I wouldn't even have faith that the notorious ACB would judge in Trump's favor on the Supreme Court. She's young, with a large family, with at least 30 years to go on the court.... while Trump would be President for only 4 more years.

Not to mention judges wouldn't want the results of the riots on their conscience. Probably hundreds would die will billions of property damage across the entire country.

Remember... OJ Simpson murdered two people and the evidence for his guilt was overwhelming. The main reason why the jury found him not guilty is because of the memory of the Rodney King riots were fresh on their minds, with 57 people dead from it.

If OJ Simpson was declared guilty, LA would have burned.

And that is why this country is wrong and messed up and deserves to fail. When even if truth is proven and fraud proven people prefer to cover up and lie.

 

[Fawlty]

That is a load of bullshit. They were SAYING this to you for weeks prior to the election so you'd think that was the actual cause. The mail in ballots were counted all day, not specialized dumps at 4am.

And please use a real source. Politifact is partisan bullshit.

You know what?

We did rig it. The whole thing, every stupid theory you have is true. We did all the whatever-things.

Now what are you going to do about it? Huh?

Go on, do something. Make your move.

I'll tell you what you're gonna do about it. Jack.Shit.

Enjoy.

 

[mmafan2000]

I voted Believe there was fraud, but don't believe there is good evidence of it. There had to be some crooked democrats making the dead vote, throwing out trump ballets, etc, but not on a massive scale. I doubt that affected the legit outcome though. Also this whole mail in ballot thing is shady as hell.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

And that is why this country is wrong and messed up and deserves to fail. When even if truth is proven and fraud proven people prefer to cover up and lie.

No, its not that it deserves to fail, its the greatest country that's ever been.

Its this shadow government of the DNC, big tech, military industrial complex, and China that needs to be exposed and discarded.

 

[EyeOfNewt]

radical leftist Eric Coomer made changes to the software code without approval.

that, coupled with the fact that he said he made sure that Trump wouldn’t win, is reason enough to question the results all the way

 

[Rational Poster]

Re-read my post.

I did. You are wrong.

Trump's lawyers admitted they were already in the room.

The court case came to an agreement as to how many non-election officials were allowed in the room and in order to secure that agreement Trump's lawyers had to admit that their elections observers were indeed already present.

 

[cleetus]

I did. You are wrong.

Trump's lawyers admitted they were already in the room.

Your time line is wrong. They were EVENTUALLY in the room.

 

[Stop Being Greedy]

I can't believe @Starman actually voted in the poll but still won't make a post in here.

On the plus side, looks like I nailed it with this one.

You just KNOW that @Starman has been laying low, praying that the voter fraud would be real so that he could triumphantly return after his self imposed exile and rub it in everyone's faces.

No such luck.

 

[Rational Poster]

Your time line is wrong. They were EVENTUALLY in the room.

No, your time line is inaccurate.

All the court case came did was come to an agreement as to how many non-election officials were allowed in the room from both sides and in order to secure that agreement Trump's lawyers had to admit that their elections observers were indeed already present.

 

[jeremyemilio]

Just to be clear, from where I stand, every scrap of "evidence mass voter fraud" has turned out to be complete, utter bullshit so far...

As is illustrated by Trump's pathetic flopping in court.

That being said, a majority of Republicans are said to believe there WAS appreciable voter fraud.

I figured I'd run a WR poll to see.

Go ahead my homies, let your voices be heard.

I've defended the MAGA crowd over and over on these forums anytime they get painted as racists by default or are scapegoated for violence that is clearly being carried out by the left.

But this? This is pure and utter bullshit. This didn't happen (whatever it is that they think happened, because that changes regularly).

There is no way to rig an election in the US in the sorts of ways and to the sorts of extent that these people are suggesting. And their spokespeople are unhinged in every way possible. Guiliani has completely lost it. They have lawyers and politicians running out with the most insane conspiracy theories. Trump is acting like a mini me wannabe dictator in a country that has no time or patience for dictators. And his supporters are still eating it up.

It's nonsensical.

Obligatory: Joe Biden is horrible. Just an awful choice who became president by getting 3-4% more votes than an absolute drunken clown. But that doesn't change any of what I just wrote above.

 

[cleetus]

I've defended the MAGA crowd over and over on these forums anytime they get painted as racists by default or are scapegoated for violence that is clearly being carried out by the left.

But this? This is pure and utter bullshit. This didn't happen (whatever it is that they think happened, because that changes regularly).

There is no way to rig an election in the US in the sorts of ways and to the sorts of extent that these people are suggesting. And their spokespeople are unhinged in every way possible. Guiliani has completely lost it. They have lawyers and politicians running out with the most insane conspiracy theories. Trump is acting like a mini me wannabe dictator in a country that has no time or patience for dictators. And his supporters are still eating it up.

It's nonsensical.

Obligatory: Joe Biden is horrible. Just an awful choice who became president by getting 3-4% more votes than an absolute drunken clown. But that doesn't change any of what I just wrote above.

UNsolicited mail in ballots with NO verification. Anyone can scribble a name on an envelope...

 

[jeremyemilio]

UNsolicited mail in ballots with NO verification. Anyone can scribble a name on an envelope...

Kind of. But you can't coordinate it in any way. Not on a large scale.

 

[cleetus]

Kind of. But you can't coordinate it in any way. Not on a large scale.

Yes, you can. It only takes a few people to copy/fill in thousands of ballots, throw out trump ballots, or tell people to use sharpies so the ballots are disqualified and re-enter ballots the poll workers fill out for them however the worker wants.

 

[Krallang]

Kind of. But you can't coordinate it in any way. Not on a large scale.

Here's a current list of evidence that is admissible in court. Not news stories or opinions, admissable in court. Its up to 722 different issues, btw the website has only been up shortly.

FRAUD

There wasn't massive voter fraud across the country, but very deep fraud in 6 democratic counties.

 

[Mike_Tyson_fan36]

He does more than a racist like yourself though.

You two fuck buddies or something?

 

[HeffDoesWant]

No, your time line is inaccurate.

All the court case came did was come to an agreement as to how many non-election officials were allowed in the room from both sides and in order to secure that agreement Trump's lawyers had to admit that their elections observers were indeed already present.

Was this the "Not zero" observers case?

 

[Rational Poster]

Was this the "Not zero" observers case?

Ya

Judge Diamond: Are your observers in the counting room?

Trump lawyer: There's a non zero number of people in the room

Judge Diamond: I’m asking you as a member of the bar of this court: are people representing the Donald J Trump for president, representing the plaintiffs, in that room?

Trump lawyer: Yes.

 

[WalkenWouldOwn]

@cleetus in here dropping BOMBS!










That were all explained or debunked literally within 3 days of election day. Lmao did you just wake up dude? WTF is this shit? Even the most delusional cultists have moved on to other made up excuses.