Opinion Poll: Trumpers, Was It Rigged?

[jk7707]

You don't get 100,000+ biden - 0 trump votes TWICE after they 'stopped counting' votes, nor do you lose a 600,000 vote lead in PA.

Anyone not believing this wasn't rigged is a blind, partisan fuck.

You're repeating long debunked ct's. If you actually believe that shit you are the blind, partisan fuck.

 

[cleetus]

Every count facility is staffed by elections officials and workers from both parties.

Republicans controlled the state legislature in every contested state.

The counties with Atlanta, Detroit, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Philly, Pittsburgh were the major hubs of the crime.

 

[cleetus]

You're repeating long debunked ct's. If you actually believe that shit you are the blind, partisan fuck.

Debunk it then. Show me the 4am ballot dumps with those obscene totals did not happen. Start there.

 

[Rational Poster]

The counties with Atlanta, Detroit, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Philly, Pittsburgh were the major hubs of the crime.

They still had Republican officials in charge.

Every count facility has officials from both parties overseeing the count.

Republicans control the state legislature in every contested state except Nevada. The state legislature is in charge of each state's election commission.

 

[jk7707]

Debunk it then. Show me the 4am ballot dumps with those obscene totals did not happen. Start there.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...en-did-not-receive-thousands-mysteriously-su/

Derp.

And if you're too dumb to understand what happened in PA I'll break it down for you. In person votes skewed heavily towards Trump as he told his voters not to vote by mail. The mail in votes skewed heavily towards Biden and weren't allowed to start being counted until election day due to REPUBLICANS blocking a bill that would have allowed them to start counting early. By the time everything was finally counted there were plenty more Biden votes.

That's how Trump lost his "lead".

 

[A Lurker]

You're repeating long debunked ct's. If you actually believe that shit you are the blind, partisan fuck.

He is a fucking moron, he has always been a fucking moron, he will continue to be a fucking moron.

 

[LS1Rx7]

I think both sides already knew their voting bases well enough that each knew that mail in voting would swing it one way or the other, which is why there was such a fight about it.
Mail in votes are ripe for fraud, I suspect some fraud happened, but from what I've heard/read from Guilliani it seems rather weak.

Maybe not as weak as Russia winning the election for Trump, but still pretty weak.

 

[cleetus]

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...en-did-not-receive-thousands-mysteriously-su/

Derp.

And if you're too dumb to understand what happened in PA I'll break it down for you. In person votes skewed heavily towards Trump as he told his voters not to vote by mail. The mail in votes skewed heavily towards Biden and weren't allowed to start being counted until election day due to REPUBLICANS blocking a bill that would have allowed them to start counting early. By the time everything was finally counted there were plenty more Biden votes.

That's how Trump lost his "lead".

That is a load of bullshit. They were SAYING this to you for weeks prior to the election so you'd think that was the actual cause. The mail in ballots were counted all day, not specialized dumps at 4am.

And please use a real source. Politifact is partisan bullshit.

 

[cleetus]

They still had Republican officials in charge.

Every count facility has officials from both parties overseeing the count.

Republicans control the state legislature in every contested state except Nevada. The state legislature is in charge of each state's election commission.

They did NOT have republicans in charge. You trying to tell me those cities and counties are republican? If Rs were in charge, there'd be no problem monitoring the count in places like philly.

 

[Rational Poster]

They did NOT have republicans in charge. You trying to tell me those cities and counties are republican? If Rs were in charge, there'd be no problem monitoring the count in places like philly.

Not only were they present, they were in charge. You're getting state appointed bi partisan election officials confused with partisan non-official poll watchers.

Here is the Election Commissioner of Philadelphia, Republican Al Schmidt.




I'm telling you, whether or not a city or county is Republican or Democrat, officials from both parties oversee the counting process. Those officials are appointed by state election commission which is controlled by the state legislature. Republicans controlled the state legislature in every contested state except Nevada.

You have to be an absolute child to believe counting is handled in an entirely partisan fashion in the year 2020 in this country.

 

[44nutman]

It was the most beautiful, riggiest election of all time. People are talking about it.

 

[cleetus]

Not only were they present, they were in charge. You're getting state appointed bi partisan election officials confused with partisan non-official poll watchers.

Here is the Election Commissioner of Philadelphia, Republican Al Schmidt.




I'm telling you, whether or not a city or county is Republican or Democrat, officials from both parties oversee the counting process. Those officials are appointed by state election commission which is controlled by the state legislature. Republicans controlled the state legislature in every contested state except Nevada.

You have to be an absolute child to believe counting is handled in an entirely partisan fashion in the year 2020 in this country.

I'd be interested to know exactly why they stopped R monitors from monitoring then. That guy on the take?

 

[Rational Poster]

I'd be interested to know exactly why they stopped R monitors from monitoring then. That guy on the take?

They didn't stop R monitors from monitoring them.

Even Trump's lawyers admitted this in courts.

 

[cleetus]

They didn't stop R monitors from monitoring them.

Even Trump's lawyers admitted this in courts.

They had to get a court order to watch, and then they were forced to watch from 20 feet away, which isn't legit at all.

 

[jk7707]

That is a load of bullshit. They were SAYING this to you for weeks prior to the election so you'd think that was the actual cause. The mail in ballots were counted all day, not specialized dumps at 4am.

And please use a real source. Politifact is partisan bullshit.

Lol. I tried. Should have known better than to try to talk facts with a delusional lunatic.

 

[Rational Poster]

They had to get a court order to watch, and then they were forced to watch from 20 feet away, which isn't legit at all.

This isn't true. The lawyers admitted that in the case that monitors from both parties were in the room.

You're also ignoring all the state election officials and workers, also in the room, you're also ignoring that the count facility in Philly was fucking live streamed the entire time.

All that happened in the court case was that it defined how many non-election officials were allowed in the room from each side who were already in the room.

 

[jk7707]

That is a load of bullshit. They were SAYING this to you for weeks prior to the election so you'd think that was the actual cause. The mail in ballots were counted all day, not specialized dumps at 4am.

And please use a real source. Politifact is partisan bullshit.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...er-fraud-claims-untrue-politifact/6165435002/

That better for you?

"From 3:26 to 3:44 a.m. in the Associated Press election reporting stream, the vote for former Vice President Joe Biden jumped by 149,520 (9.2% of Biden's total votes) and Trump's vote jumped by 31,803 votes (2% of his total votes). Milwaukee County accounted for most but not all of that jump."

 

[Krallang]

The whole late votes will shift to Biden is inaccurate and misleading.

Mail in votes tend to be mixed throughout the state and as the votes are counted they usually follow a constant variance whether that trend is for a candidate or against a candidate the variance stays the same throughout. PA followed this trend until it stopped the count, MI and WI also followed a linear trend with mail in ballots until the count was stopped.

Take PA for example Biden should have received a little less then 2 mail in votes for every 1 trump received. That was the case for the entirety of election night until they stopped the count.

When they started the count again that nice linear line went to shit. The only explanation is a batch of solely Biden votes. Makes me believe those ballots were added after the election to change the results just enough to squeak out a win.

Its just these swing states btw, the rest of the country has nice linear lines. If I could find teh graphs I'd link them. been posted before.

 

[cleetus]

This isn't true. The lawyers admitted that in the case that monitors from both parties were in the room.

You're also ignoring all the state election officials and workers, also in the room, you're also ignoring that the count facility in Philly was fucking live streamed the entire time.

All that happened in the court case was that it defined how many non-election officials were allowed in the room from each side who were already in the room.

This isn't true. They needed a COURT ORDER to be allowed in. THEN, they were allowed in, but could monitor from 20 feet away. So they did not 'monitor', but were present AFTER the court order was enforced. Disingenuous post of yours at best. Facts are out of order and the argument you are presenting leave a lot to be desired. You write for WaPo or CNN?

 

[Rational Poster]

This isn't true. They needed a COURT ORDER to be allowed in. THEN, they were allowed in, but could monitor from 20 feet away. So they did not 'monitor', but were present AFTER the court order was enforced. Disingenuous post of yours at best. Facts are out of order and the argument you are presenting leave a lot to be desired. You write for WaPo or CNN?

No, you are wrong and live in a fantasy world.

"Well, that’s now been litigated in court—in front of a not-exactly-liberal federal judge, Paul Diamond, a George W. Bush appointee, 20-year corporate lawyer, and former assistant district attorney. Here’s a snippet of the transcript:

Judge Diamond: Are your observers in the counting room?

Trump lawyer: There's a non zero number of people in the room

Judge Diamond: I’m asking you as a member of the bar of this court: are people representing the Donald J Trump for president, representing the plaintiffs, in that room?

Trump lawyer: Yes.

Judge Diamond: I'm sorry, then what's your problem?"


This was the transcript from the actual judge and lawyer in the case you're hung up on. In that very case Trump's own lawyer had to admit what you're saying happened is not true.

All that case decided was how many NON-OFFICIAL election observers could be in the room from each campaign.

State officials and state election workers from both parties were in the count facilities the entire time counting ballots. It was live streamed.