Poorly run elections are already evidence of a problem. Resisting transparency or shaming those who demand it - even if Trump's just being a difficult dick, and the demands for transparency are unreasonable on their face - also predictably looks really bad and undermines the "absolutely no evidence of fraud/illegitimacy" narrative.
America spends more on elections than any other developed nations, and yet their elections have amongst the lowest integrity in the developed world.
You're about on par with India, for fuck's sake. And not only do they have more voters than you even have people, some of those voters are so remote that goddamn elephants have to be used to transport voting machines to them.
Right? A nation that has streets set aside for shitting and that uses elephants to transport voting machines runs a smoother election than the United States of America, the world's richest country.
Like it. Don't like it. Whatever. But that's a massive red flag.
That is 3 times you've sent this strange, meaningless reply. Guess you must enjoy repetition:
Yeah... Not caring whether or not half the country believes in the legitimacy of your elections is really great for democracy.
Top notch stuff.
A third of independents and 16% of democrats also doubt the legitimacy of the elections, by the way.
I'm not sure why anyone thinks this is all fine.
<Lmaoo><Lmaoo> No, you don't. You might know South Africans who were escaping our dying economy or exploding crime rates.
But if they're telling you they fled "political violence" they're likely taking the piss. Making fun of and misleading Westerners is a bit of a local hobby. Sort of like when I used to tell people I accessed the internet via the only pc in my village, and that I would ride to school on an elephant to protect against lion attacks.
Funnily, I'm dating a women who went to Canada to earn her PhD. She couldn't stand what she described as people's inability to speak their minds or be genuine. In general, she could not stand the Canadian character, even going so far as to say that Canada was terrible for her mental health.
Do I think that means anything? Nope, lots of South Afrcians move to Canada and are perfectly happy there. Hell, Canada used to be on my short-list of potential destination. So, her interpretation is obviously a personal one.
All it means just that we've both got pointless anecdotes. Anecdotes that have nothing to do with how elections are run. Odd how you've managed to avoid the actual topic.
Yay for us.
Oh, and I'm not saying that there is not political violence. Just that you don't know "plenty" of people who fled it because I strongly doubt you know anyone who'd have been targeted by it.
Okay... Canada runs better elections than the US. So, what point do you think you're making about elections when you point out that more Canadians move to the country with worse elections?
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Dude, people flee my country because the elections are legitimate. The logic of your argument seems to be that we should never have given non-whites the vote. 'Cos back under the old regime, fewer people fled South Africa.
I didn't expect a Canadian to make a pro-apartheid argument. Methinks your position needs some more nuance.
I mean, this is just stupid.
You do know that voting is not actually about getting what you want.
You're describing the response to a comfortable country, not a legitimately democratic one.
Experience more; your bubble is small.