Elections Poll: Reasons Voters Did Not Choose Harris: All Voters, Swing Voters, Black Voters, Latino Voters, And Swing Voters Who Chose Trump

[IDGETKTFO]

I don't follow polls. I didn't vote for Harris because she did nothing while being VP. She claimed a bunch of things she was going to do during the debate, but never said how she was going to do it.
And lets not even get into the only thing she did well........Opening the borders to criminals......

 

[DEVILsSON]

What is actually surprising me more is how tone deaf the Dem pundits are. They're still blaming the loss on the voters for their misogyny and racism. Like wake the fuck up. You just had your clock cleaned by losing all three houses of government. You're going to lose again and again if you continue with this condescending and patronizing tactic.

For sure.

Like Trump or hate him he adjusted his communication style/approach to fit his demographics/audience(white men, non college educated, etc). Trump communicates at 4-5 grade level while campaigning. I read/watched one of his Bloomberg financial interviews a month ago and he came across very different. That showed me his real level of communication. Granted he's still not a great orator or some genius but he can communicate at significantly higher level, lay out some econ concepts, etc when it suits his needs. It reminds me of a "explain it to me like I am a 5 year old" and "if you can't explain something in simple terms then you don't really understand it yourself" concepts.

Democrats forgot that pandering to 1-2% of voters or even 5-10% doesn't help attract the vast majority needed to win. Trump largely destroyed identity politics. Instead of being preoccupied with pronouns and trans women in sports, tell the voters what you'll do to reduce cost of eggs, butter, or gas because that likely affects almost everyone. Morning Joe being shocked that butter costs somewhere 3-7$ was a laugh out loud.

At some point you have to give a guy his dues. I disagree with Trump on a lot but despite having to sit through a highly embarrassing trial while actively campaigning, facing several more serious trials, almost getting killed once and having someone with a rifle stalking him a second time, etc and despite all of that he was able to convince 70 million Americans that he's the best person for the job.

 

[Hog-train]

For sure.

Like Trump or hate him he adjusted his communication style/approach to fit his demographics/audience(white men, non college educated, etc). Trump communicates at 4-5 grade level while campaigning. I read/watched one of his Bloomberg financial interviews a month ago and he came across very different. That showed me his real level of communication. Granted he's still not a great orator or some genius but he can communicate at significantly higher level, lay out some econ concepts, etc when it suits his needs. It reminds me of a "explain it to me like I am a 5 year old" and "if you can't explain something in simple terms then you don't really understand it yourself" concepts.

Democrats forgot that pandering to 1-2% of voters or even 5-10% doesn't help attract the vast majority needed to win. Trump largely destroyed identity politics. Instead of being preoccupied with pronouns and trans women in sports, tell the voters what you'll do to reduce cost of eggs, butter, or gas because that likely affects almost everyone. Morning Joe being shocked that butter costs somewhere 3-7$ was a laugh out loud.

At some point you have to give a guy his dues. I disagree with Trump on a lot but despite having to sit through a highly embarrassing trial while actively campaigning, facing several more serious trials, almost getting killed once and having someone with a rifle stalking him a second time, etc and despite all of that he was able to convince 70 million Americans that he's the best person for the job.

Weaponizing the Justice System really turned me off to the Dem's tactics. That rape trial was the most obvious bullshit ever. I believe they actually changed that Statute of Limitations law specifically so they could charge him - might be a little conspiratorial to think that, but I believe it.

Actually, the first time I got really turned off is when they did that Hilary Clinton targeted robbery of Bernie Sanders.

 

[DEVILsSON]

Weaponizing the Justice System really turned me off to the Dem's tactics. That rape trial was the most obvious bullshit ever. I believe they actually changed that Statute of Limitations law specifically so they could charge him - might be a little conspiratorial to think that, but I believe it.

Actually, the first time I got really turned off is when they did that Hilary Clinton targeted robbery of Bernie Sanders.

Democrats wanted a way to call Trump a felon.

It will now be amusing to see how quickly all of these cases magically disappear.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Wheres the fucking poll? Not reading all that crap mang.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

The Dems only ran those ads at the last moment, because they started realizing they couldn't keep lying about the border.

But too late. Before that, they were actually denying that it exists.

Yeah, no one's going to match Republicans in xenophobic, nativist hysteria. There's over a century of history behind that as well.

Biden's deportation and apprehension numbers are easy to look up. They did a shitty job of communicating this but the policy was adequate.

Trans athletes in female sports and other female spaces like prisons is not their "civil rights."

Sure seems like it. Why couldn't Trump stop all this "madness" in his first term? This didn't start in 2020.

The hilarious thing is that conservatives mocked liberals for complaining about "mean tweets" from Trump, but mean tweets are all conservatives are gonna get on this issue. Individual institutions, organizations, school districts, even cities might pass certain measures, but that's all independent of who's in the White House.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

We already saw what a "secure border" looks like under democrats, and their "immigration reform", which is just mass amnesty and trying to make illegals citizens is not popular with most of the country either. Who knows, maybe they will start to care about the border now that Hispanics are leaving their party too, but so far their plan to let in as many illegals as possible and get them voting as soon as possible just got them booted out of office.

Wrong.

Much like the socialized healthcare vs universal healthcare difference, verbiage is the big difference here. When asked whether law-abiding undocumented people should get "a chance to become citizens" (aka, amnesty), clear majority supports it:

• Notwithstanding their attitudes on deportation, 70% of U.S. adults favor allowing immigrants who entered the country illegally a chance to become U.S. citizens if they meet certain requirements over a period of time. Support is even higher -- 81% -- for a similar policy for those brought to the U.S. illegally as children.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/647123/sharply-americans-curb-immigration.aspx


Even Republicans prefer "a path to citizenship"

Nationally, 58 percent prefer a path to citizenship and 26 percent mass deportation. More Republicans prefer a path to citizenship (45 percent) than prefer mass deportation (40 percent). Among Democrats, 75 percent prefer a path to citizenship.

https://thefulcrum.us/bipartisanship/what-do-americans-think-about-immigration


And there's zero evidence that they're trying to "get them voting as soon as possible." The backlog of court cases just for legal residency (green card) hearings is notorious and keeps growing. And the 7-year wait between getting a green card and being able to apply for citizenship has held steady for decades and isn't being reduced anytime soon.

But none of these facts will matter to people like you.

 

[Gutter Chris]

I mean the dude looked like a chick who "transitioned" for his entire 20s, then suddenly in his mid 30s, he decides to start bleaching his hair and wear earrings like he's Malibu barbie, so it seems like the issue hits close to home.

I'd be lying if I didn't say everytime I look at that dude it irks me. You are supposed to grow outta that not into it. That dude comes across as a total d bag. Him and his woman both used to be a lot more likable.

That look on a grown ass man makes it hard to take him seriously.

It seems to me where progressives take this weird stance on the trans thing where they say they don't give a shit but always seem to defend it and for the life of them can't figure out why people who have children give a shit about it and want it stopped in ts tracks.

 

[UberHere]

Yeah, no one's going to match Republicans in xenophobic, nativist hysteria. There's over a century of history behind that as well.

Biden's deportation and apprehension numbers are easy to look up. They did a shitty job of communicating this but the policy was adequate.



Sure seems like it. Why couldn't Trump stop all this "madness" in his first term? This didn't start in 2020.

The hilarious thing is that conservatives mocked liberals for complaining about "mean tweets" from Trump, but mean tweets are all conservatives are gonna get on this issue. Individual institutions, organizations, school districts, even cities might pass certain measures, but that's all independent of who's in the White House.

You deserve mean tweets and more, like total loss of the federal gov

 

[RoastBeast]

I'm as conservative as I can be on a lot of things, but the government needs to stay out of the abortion discussion. I'm not a fan of "killing babies", but if an abortion or other similar procedure is required to save the life of my wife or one of my daughters they'd better be able to get it without needing Uncle Sam's approval. You can rest assured that I'd value their lives over the life of the unborn child.

I don't get why you would assume that an intelligent compromise would require the mom to die. I mean clearly the mother's life has more value than the unborn baby but that unborn baby's life does have value and the mother and doctor do not get to arbitrarily get to decide what day that happens based on their own feelings.

This is another reason why we can't just come to a compromise because everyone goes from zero to a hundred on this topic.

 

[I Am Legion]

Trump is a jerk. NO WAY a guy like that gets elected except for 2 specific reasons:
1. The other candidate is worse.
2. The country wants the exact opposite of the last 4 years.

Most of America are not liberal wing nuts pushing trans and woke policy bullshit. They pushed and pushed and the country pushed back. The country believes Trump will be better at the main issues than Kamala.

 

[spamking]

I don't get why you would assume that an intelligent compromise would require the mom to die. I mean clearly the mother's life has more value than the unborn baby but that unborn baby's life does have value and the mother and doctor do not get to arbitrarily get to decide what day that happens based on their own feelings.

This is another reason why we can't just come to a compromise because everyone goes from zero to a hundred on this topic.

What intelligent compromise? There are extremists out there who have already proclaimed they have the right to decide something they're not remotely involved in simply because of an unborn child.

The situations I'm referring to aren't arbitrary. They'd only happen as a result of some life-threatening issue. So yes, the mother, doctor and even the father would decide at that time. Not the government.

 

[RoastBeast]

What intelligent compromise? There are extremists out there who have already proclaimed they have the right to decide something they're not remotely involved in simply because of an unborn child.

The situations I'm referring to aren't arbitrary. They'd only happen as a result of some life-threatening issue. So yes, the mother, doctor and even the father would decide at that time. Not the government.

The whole point I've been making since the beginning is that there are extremists on both sides and neither of them should win out. That's what the compromise is for.

You're basically just throwing out a strawman here. There was never any point in this conversation where I said that the government should have the power to dictate that the baby fetuses life is more important than the mother's. That is an extremist view, which is exactly what I want to get rid of.

If you want the mother, father and doctor to decide on when a baby fetuses life has value, then that also means you are okay with abortion at the moment before birth because any person can randomly put an arbitrary number on that depending on their religious, moral or political beliefs. That is not a good way to put value on life. We certainly don't do that with other human beings.

 

[spamking]

The whole point I've been making since the beginning is that there are extremists on both sides and neither of them should win out. That's what the compromise is for.

You're basically just throwing out a strawman here. There was never any point in this conversation where I said that the government should have the power to dictate that the baby fetuses life is more important than the mother's. That is an extremist view, which is exactly what I want to get rid of.

You said this is the comment I quoted:

The same thing goes for abortion. It's not between a woman and a doctor because there is another life form inside of that mother's stomach. We need the government to rule on that and compromise because we have people who think an abortion from day 1 is bad and we have people who think that abortion seconds before the child is born is okay. A woman and a doctor do not get to decide between them if the life of the fetus has value or not.

If that's not pushing the idea that the government should have the power to dictate I don't know what is . . .

Your comment is one of those extremist views you're complaining about.

If you want the mother, father and doctor to decide on when a baby fetuses life has value, then that also means you are okay with abortion at the moment before birth because any person can randomly put an arbitrary number on that depending on their religious, moral or political beliefs. That is not a good way to put value on life. We certainly don't do that with other human beings.

And don't come whining to me about a strawman and then post this crap.

If my wife is 9 months pregnant and goes into labor there is a risk to both her and the baby. If the doctor comes to me and says save one I'm saving my wife. If you want to argue that this is the equivalent of a late-term abortion I don't know what to tell you. I didn't say I was okay with abortion at any time before birth "just because". I'm not OK with abortion at any time "just because" or as a matter of convenience either.

 

[RoastBeast]

You said this is the comment I quoted:

The same thing goes for abortion. It's not between a woman and a doctor because there is another life form inside of that mother's stomach. We need the government to rule on that and compromise because we have people who think an abortion from day 1 is bad and we have people who think that abortion seconds before the child is born is okay. A woman and a doctor do not get to decide between them if the life of the fetus has value or not.

If that's not pushing the idea that the government should have the power to dictate I don't know what is . . .

Your comment is one of those extremist views you're complaining about.


And don't come whining to me about a strawman and then post this crap.

If my wife is 9 months pregnant and goes into labor there is a risk to both her and the baby. If the doctor comes to me and says save one I'm saving my wife. If you want to argue that this is the equivalent of a late-term abortion I don't know what to tell you. I didn't say I was okay with abortion at any time before birth "just because". I'm not OK with abortion at any time "just because" or as a matter of convenience either.

I thought I was pretty clear that the point was to get rid of the extremist views on both sides and you just came right in with an extremist situation and pinned it on me. That's a strawman. That's what the left wingers around here do. You're better than that man. To try and make it seem like I want the government to kill your wife to save the fetus is ridiculous and absolutely not what I was talking about at all.

I'm just telling you that the "between the mother and her doctor" thing leaves abortion open to the extremist views from the left. I know you don't have those extremist views but allowing the left to use that slogan to dictate abortion does allow their own extremist views to win.

 

[spamking]

I thought I was pretty clear that the point was to get rid of the extremist views on both sides and you just came right in with an extremist situation and pinned it on me. That's a strawman. That's what the left wingers around here do. You're better than that man. To try and make it seem like I want the government to kill your wife to save the fetus is ridiculous and absolutely not what I was talking about at all.

I'm just telling you that the "between the mother and her doctor" thing leaves abortion open to the extremist views from the left. I know you don't have those extremist views but allowing the left to use that slogan to dictate abortion does allow their own extremist views to win.

You seem to want the government to decide right vs. wrong here. I don't. I prefer the government stay out of the discussion. I provided a real-life example of why I don't want Uncle Sam to have a say here. It wasn't pinning that on you but pointing out why I disagreed.

I can't advocate for common sense when it comes to something like this and then try to add stipulations to what might equal common sense. I shouldn't be expected to adjust my thinking to become completely different just because someone else might take that thinking to an extreme I disagree with.

 

[method115]

Her "big" 2 cultural issues were legalizing marijuana and signing the equality act and she didn't spend a lot of time on either.

That's weird considering Rogan said one of the things Kamala did not want to talk about on the show was legalizing marijuana. My guess is she was talked out of doing that and didn't want it brought up again. Either that or she didn't want it to lead to her putting so many people in jail over it. Either way I think she should address it and putting people in jail for committing crimes is her job.

 

[Scerpi]

These are the charts for this poll.

Not too surprising. The top 3 issues were rising prices, immigration and trans bullshit.

Why America Chose Trump: Inflation, Immigration, and the Democratic Brand - Blueprint

Harris couldn’t outrun her past or her party— it was a vice grip that proved impossible to escape.

blueprint2024.com

Where's "Inflation is Transitory" @Jack V Savage?

He needs to educate the American people why they're wrong about issue #1

 

[JadeOwl]

So despite people saying no one cares about tranny shit and other nonsense it is the 3rd biggest reason not to vote for kamala? Shocking

That’s not actually what it says. That’s a disingenuous reading of that survey, even taking into account that it’s actually an example of framing the question to lead the response to begin with.

They put a general category (cultural issues) and an example (transgender issues). The people answering the questions could’ve have any of a dozen cultural pet peeves in mind when they answered the question and we have no way of knowing what weight transgender issues have on that.

And when I say the question is leading, it is because it is the only statement in that table making a comparison (Because she focused on A rather than B). Doesn’t take a genius to know this was done to make sure it place higher in the ranking by injecting an economic aspect to the statement, which the people drafting the survey knew was the more important issue to voters beforehand.

 

[JadeOwl]

Cooking the questions in a survey to get it to prove whatever you what it to prove is such an old trick they were making fun of the concept in British sitcoms in the 80s: