Elections Poll: Reasons Voters Did Not Choose Harris: All Voters, Swing Voters, Black Voters, Latino Voters, And Swing Voters Who Chose Trump

[Blayt7hh]

Look at Kamala's answer to the trans question of whether they should get gender affirming care.

Does some wishy washy non-answer of "Follow the law" instead of just saying yes or no.

Refuses to take a real stance. If she was asked about abortion and women's choice she would 100% not say "Follow the law."

Sure. But that’s in line with what I am saying that she didn’t really get involved in the culture war stuff that much.

And honestly, I’m fine with her answer. Frankly I don’t care all that much about those issues. I don’t know why most people do

 

[BFoe]

Your post is part of the reason why the Dems lost. It's basically unintentional gaslighting. Using statistics as "facts" when in reality, those statistics aren't really applicable to the average working person. Most people aren't making nearly 20% more than they were a few years ago and the price of many goods and services has skyrocketed beyond that.

Our government (including Trump) and governments around the world screwed all of us common folks over with their covid policies, which caused inflation to skyrocket. If it skyrockets and then plateaus back to normal growth rates, that still means that we have to carry the burden of massively increased prices that aren't paced by our wage growth.

This is another case of the government takes a lot away, gives very little back and then people like you are out there holding their water by telling us we should all be thanking them for it.

I truly don’t believe it’s gaslighting though.
I think that because wage growth came after inflation, people still remember that sting and the hurt of it. It’s absolutely true that from 2020-2022 (remember, Biden took office in January 2021), inflation outpaced wages.

But from 2022-2024, wages outpaced inflation by a lot. Overall when we look back at the last 4 years, wages grew significantly higher than inflation ever did.

I can agree that probably not every single worker experienced exactly that, sure. But shit, fast food workers have see massive wage growth the past several years.
Far from abandoning the working class, wages for blue collar workers have gone up even faster than wages for white collar workers.

I wanted to see if I could find a tax return from 2020 but I don’t have that year handy—I do have 2021 though. I am a white collar worker, and my wage is up 14% since 2021, so if I estimate one more year I think I can confidently say mine is up 17-18% in the past 4 years.

This is a weird election in the sense that the economy is the big issue—but jobs are way up, inflation way down, wages significantly up, unemployment way down, stock market is high…
Prices haven’t returned to pre-pandemic so people feel the economy is bad. They may never come down that much, but if that’s the goal then electing the guy who wants tarrifs on everything under the sun probably isn’t the best bet.

 

[Rob Battisti]

I truly don’t believe it’s gaslighting though.
I think that because wage growth came after inflation, people still remember that sting and the hurt of it. It’s absolutely true that from 2020-2022 (remember, Biden took office in January 2021), inflation outpaced wages.

But from 2022-2024, wages outpaced inflation by a lot. Overall when we look back at the last 4 years, wages grew significantly higher than inflation ever did.

I can agree that probably not every single worker experienced exactly that, sure. But shit, fast food workers have see massive wage growth the past several years.
Far from abandoning the working class, wages for blue collar workers have gone up even faster than wages for white collar workers.

I wanted to see if I could find a tax return from 2020 but I don’t have that year handy—I do have 2021 though. I am a white collar worker, and my wage is up 14% since 2021, so if I estimate one more year I think I can confidently say mine is up 17-18% in the past 4 years.

This is a weird election in the sense that the economy is the big issue—but jobs are way up, inflation way down, wages significantly up, unemployment way down, stock market is high…
Prices haven’t returned to pre-pandemic so people feel the economy is bad. They may never come down that much, but if that’s the goal then electing the guy who wants tarrifs on everything under the sun probably isn’t the best bet.

The only metric for wage growth that matters is 2019-2024. It still lags inflation.

 

[RoastBeast]

Crystal from breaking points just spent 20 minutes yelling at Saggar because the issue so unimportant that she doesn't care about it at all. But she yelled for 20 minutes every time he said anything about it in criticism of the trans agenda.

It mirrored exactly what happens here on sherdog. The Democrats don't care at all about this issue but they get vehemently shitheaded about it and closed-minded if you bring it up even a little bit.

They wonder why you care so much while they argue in bad faith and obviously from a place of emotion. If you bring up any contrary opinions to the lock step left wing agenda.

And then they wonder why so many people are turned off by the insanity on the left.

Watch this segment for a microcosm of how the whole entire national discussion goes with the left people being emotional, irrational and unwilling to listen because they're so sure they're right

When you ask them to discuss intelligently Kathleen Stock or Helena and Joyce's positions on the matter they've never heard of these people and are sure they're bigots even though both of them are women,.one is a lesbian,.and one has gay children, and they're both on the left!!!

That CNN clip in the beginning is as cringe as it gets. The fact that Krystal can't see that and recognize that it's a problem for people is pretty crazy. Either that or she's lying to try and protect the ideology. You don't need to have your own daughter get dominated in a sport by a boy to have empathy for those that have to deal with that.

 

[terrapin]

That CNN clip in the beginning is as cringe as it gets. The fact that Krystal can't see that and recognize that it's a problem for people is pretty crazy. Either that or she's lying to try and protect the ideology. You don't need to have your own daughter get dominated in a sport by a boy to have empathy for those that have to deal with that.

And there's no Democrats here to admit it or see that this hurt us in the election.

 

[RoastBeast]

That got real crazy pretty quick.

Your first example is not what she was asked about, it's about some fever dream of abuse and medical negligence.

The second assumes 1) That abortions are necessarily performed on viable thriving fetus' 2) that you know where life starts better than a pregnant woman or an obstetrician who has dedicated their life to this work 3) that the government not only knows this better than either of those parties, but also is more capable of determining medical treatment protocols.

No need to respond though. Or go nuts. I'm not going to derail into this any further.

It didn't get crazy at all. I just showed you how the whole "it's between the person and their doctor" does not work for everything. It's a disingenuous statement that is used as a non answer when abortion questions are asked.

The whole point is that the government doesn't know because no one out there knows exactly when "life starts". The point of the government is to hand down a compromise because people not only can't agree on that, but they also can't scientifically prove when it happens anyway. To pretend like a woman or her doctor knows the moment when the fetuses life has value is ridiculous.

Get ideologies out of science and both the trans and abortion issues mostly go away.

 

[White Whale]

Inflation was the top issue.

 

[Hog-train]

Sure. But that’s in line with what I am saying that she didn’t really get involved in the culture war stuff that much.

And honestly, I’m fine with her answer. Frankly I don’t care all that much about those issues. I don’t know why most people do

It bothers the shit out of me TBH. I'm not a bigoted person, but something about a narcissistic, entitled person gaslighting everyone and telling people biological males don't have physical advantages against women irks the shit out of me.

Then they have the audacity to transition after getting prison sentences and get sent to female prisons. Where they end up having sex with the women.

I think I essentially do not see them as a women and just entitled guys.

I don't like entitled people trying to force people to talk in ways they want, bullying, getting people fired, etc.

All these supposed "women" are acting like the classic stereotype of a "toxic male." But you can't tell them to STFU or punch them in the face like any normal guy acting like an asshole would get.

 

[KnightTemplar]

so how are the libs adapting to this reality?

Doubling down.

 

[Scerpi]

I don't at all get why you think that makes a difference. Trump was president in 2020. He signed off on the spending. Biden signed off on some of the exact same kind of spending.

This idea that a president gets a pass because a crisis happened on his watch, like no other president had a crisis to manage is so strange.

If your point is that Congress controls the purse strings and the president isn't really all that responsible for better or worse, I'm with you. I agree. We blame and credit presidents with all kinds of stuff they aren't really responsible for. I'm just talking about messaging.

And out of a 4 trillion dollar bailout, across 2 administrations they handed out 884 billion to American families and workers. Which works out to 2600-ish on average and it does not account for the lion's share of the debt incurred. It's a helpful sum. That's rent and groceries. Massive may be an overstatement.

lol... It does matter dipshit. You make your retarded claim in a vacuum, like no one will remember what had been going on. The Government forced people into their homes months and over a year in some of the worst blue states.

What? Should have they just told those people to go fuck themselves? Actually they did fuck everyone... they just tried to ease the pain of dry insertion by giving people money,


It's as stupid as claiming that Trump lost jobs in the 2020 when State Governors locked their states down and forced massive layoffs. Then Biden took credit for the job gains when people started going back to work.

And NPC morons repeat the claim "Biden created more jobs than any president in history" ... derp

You're either stupid or a liar to believe the bullshit that Biden had anything to do with that. So what is it? I'll go with stupid since it really does seem you believe Biden should get credit.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

These are the charts for this poll.

Not too surprising. The top 3 issues were rising prices, immigration and trans bullshit.

And even less surprising is that Republican solutions to these are either bad or unrealistic

Economy- The tariffs that are proposed by Trump will probably increase inflation by most economists' estimates. Even some Republican officials are pointing this out.

Immigration- "Mass deportations" aren't gonna happen. They're far too expensive and simply not worth it. Various Republicans have been promising things like this since the 90s and it never pans out. Deportation numbers by each president are extremely easy to google.

Trans bullshit- Having Trump in the White House isn't gonna make it go away. What's he gonna do, make a "don't talk about trannies" law? Send cops out to ban tranny story time in every library? Unless you're gonna do some Saudi Arabia or Uganda-style cracking down of this (which is obviously not gonna happen), there's no way the president can make cultural things like this go away.

Right wingers showing their stupidity for the 394,822nd time.

 

[UberHere]

lol... It does matter dipshit. You make your retarded claim in a vacuum, like no one will remember what had been going on. The Government forced people into their homes months and over a year in some of the worst blue states.

What? Should have they just told those people to go fuck themselves? Actually they did fuck everyone... they just tried to ease the pain of dry insertion by giving people money,


It's as stupid as claiming that Trump lost jobs in the 2020 when State Governors locked their states down and forced massive layoffs. Then Biden took credit for the job gains when people started going back to work.

And NPC morons repeat the claim "Biden created more jobs than any president in history" ... derp

You're either stupid or a liar to believe the bullshit that Biden had anything to do with that. So what is it? I'll go with stupid since it really does seem you believe Biden should get credit.

The fact that this even had to be explained means that either you’re talking to a complete retard or a damn liar.

 

[Hog-train]

And even less surprising is that Republican solutions to these are either bad or unrealistic

Economy- The tariffs that are proposed by Trump will probably increase inflation by most economists' estimates. Even some Republican officials are pointing this out.

Immigration- "Mass deportations" aren't gonna happen. They're far too expensive and simply not worth it. Various Republicans have been promising things like this since the 90s and it never pans out. Deportation numbers by each president are extremely easy to google.

Trans bullshit- Having Trump in the White House isn't gonna make it go away. What's he gonna do, make a "don't talk about trannies" law? Send cops out to ban tranny story time in every library? Unless you're gonna do some Saudi Arabia or Uganda-style cracking down of this (which is obviously not gonna happen), there's no way the president can make cultural things like this go away.

Right wingers showing their stupidity for the 394,822nd time.

The Dems were worse. Because they were pretending the border crisis was fake news and didn't exist for months. The same exact thing with increased crime in the cities.

They were gaslighting the whole country not to believe their own eyes. I mean they literally had Dems go on national TV and say there is no border crisis.

As for the trans issue, at least the GOP disavowed it. The Dems kept supporting it even though most of the country weren't for it.

 

[UberHere]

The Dems were worse. Because they were pretending the border crisis was fake news and didn't exist for months. The same exact thing with increased crime in the cities.

They were gaslighting the whole country not to believe their own eyes. I mean they literally had Dems go on national TV and say there is no border crisis.

As for the trans issue, at least the GOP disavowed it. The Dems kept supporting it even though most of the country weren't for it.

You can be trans and not beat the shit out of women in sports or in prison. You can also ensure they’re treated fairly in day to day life. I don’t know why Dems lack common sense in this while telling everyone they’re the party of science.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

I mean, Trump won't get mexico to pay for the wall or China to pay for tarrifs...but he can get trannies itselves to solve the tranny issue

LGBT+ crisis hotlines reported a month’s worth of calls amid Trump election win

 

[spamking]

The same thing goes for abortion. It's not between a woman and a doctor because there is another life form inside of that mother's stomach. We need the government to rule on that and compromise because we have people who think an abortion from day 1 is bad and we have people who think that abortion seconds before the child is born is okay. A woman and a doctor do not get to decide between them if the life of the fetus has value or not.

I'm as conservative as I can be on a lot of things, but the government needs to stay out of the abortion discussion. I'm not a fan of "killing babies", but if an abortion or other similar procedure is required to save the life of my wife or one of my daughters they'd better be able to get it without needing Uncle Sam's approval. You can rest assured that I'd value their lives over the life of the unborn child.

 

[nonoob]

She allowed the Trump campaign to paint her as radical

No paint was needed.​

Kamala was shown being Kamala and doing KamalaSpeak.

 

[Libero cane v2]

The immigration point is the only one of the top three where the dems have done a sub-par job. Inflation is not really something which the president has much influence on, and regardless it’s come way down under Biden for quite some time now. As for trannies, having that as a central policy gripe is just lmao

 

[Death By Samson]

The Dems were worse. Because they were pretending the border crisis was fake news and didn't exist for months. The same exact thing with increased crime in the cities.

They were gaslighting the whole country not to believe their own eyes. I mean they literally had Dems go on national TV and say there is no border crisis.

As for the trans issue, at least the GOP disavowed it. The Dems kept supporting it even though most of the country weren't for it.

And don't forget Biden's cognitive decline. The Dems were all saying that he was sharp as a tack and running circles around everyone behind the scenes. He's the best Joe Biden ever. And if you see video to the contrary then it is a MAGA "deepfake". Don't believe your own eyes and ears, believe us.

And then the debate happened and they were exposed as complete frauds.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

That's not the issue though. That's just the fantasy you've created in your head to justify what's happening.

outside of literature, cinema, etc, fantasy is considered “psychosis”