(Poll) Do you follow Boxing?

[Myrddin Wild]

I've alwayz focused on irl application of any martial art, & boxing is only valid as a part of MMA irl. That said, very early on in my life, I became completely disinterested in "sport boxing" & have not followed it since I discovered MMA.

I appreciate the sweet science for what it is, but it's a limited sport. In that regard, so is MMA a limited sport, but it's about as close as we can get (in sport) to what will work in an irl life fight atm.

For example: Yearz ago, I had a friend who was a trained boxer for years, but after watching the UFC, he wanted to learn wrestling & BJJ... which I knew, & so we cross trained together for about a month. (he turned out to be an asshole so I stopped hanging out with him after that)

Anywayz, that guy waz a hot head, & got into a street fight with a co-worker not long after that. He reported that when the guy swung on him, he shot a double leg, the guy gave his back & he sunk in a choke. The conversation waz over in less than 30 seconds... No Boxing needed.

 

[HHJ]

& boxing is only valid as a part of MMA irl.

 

[Aurelian]

If there's a super big fight on, I'll tune in but that's only like 3-4x a year.

I like boxing video games though if that counts. Every year or two I'll bring out Fight Night and run through a career.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Great response~

I mean, I laughed because it was you.

On teh real. Teh fook is a boxer gonna do when I shoot a double leg?

 

[HHJ]

Even if you guys dont know who the top players are now, you dont even watch the classic fights from before?


People saying they skipped out on the early 2000s are missing some pants shittingly incredible fights.

 

[HHJ]

Great response~

I mean, I laughed because it was you.

On teh real. Teh fook is a boxer gonna do when I shoot a double leg?

I mean you might not get the chance, or they may be quick enough to move out of the way. What if you have to lead?

Shootin a double and getting someone to the ground are two different things.

 

[Söze Aldo]

One of the differences is boxing fans tend to know the history of boxing going back 40 - 50 years, and some MMA fans have no respect for something that happened 5 years ago.

Part of that is the promoters fault. You had Dana White referring to Usman as the GOAT WW after like his second defense. Every new champion is the new GOAT of the division according to Joe Rogan.

In the UFC the mouthpieces either ignore or disparage past greats because they don't make money off of them anymore. The UFC actively shits on its history to move things forward to make the next buck. A guy like Stipe was barely given a send off.

Boxing absolutely venerates its past much better

 

[humdizzle]

i'll watch the big fights

the problem is the judging corruption is WAY more rampant than the UFC. Its become a money grab where they are pushing for more trilogies/rematches

GGG vs canelo 1, Fury vs Wilder 1, Davis vs Roach....

all these seemed way more egregious than Jones vs Reyes

 

[HHJ]

Part of that is the promoters fault. You had Dana White referring to Usman as the GOAT WW after like his second defense. Every new champion is the new GOAT of the division according to Joe Rogan.

In the UFC the mouthpieces either ignore or disparage past greats because they don't make money off of them anymore. The UFC actively shits on his history to move things forward to make the next buck.

Boxing absolutely venerates its past much better

Extremely good point

 

[gentel]

I watch when good boxing matches are conveniently available to me, but don't follow it actively and often miss even high-tier matches if I'm not made aware of them

Nonetheless all the respect to Naoya Inoue, probably the best boxer alive rn

 

[Myrddin Wild]

I mean you might not get the chance, or they may be quick enough to move out of the way. What if you have to lead?

Shootin a double and getting someone to the ground are two different things.

We're talking about a street fight. We face off & I square up pretending that I'm going to box back. Teh boxer literally got about 2 secondz... one punchers chance... to land something before I duck under & have my way with him. If I miss, then he knows my strategy, but then he has to change his stance if he knows anything... either way I get him.

The only chance he has of any longevity in a street fight is if he cross-trains in MMA. Doesn't lean heavy on teh front leg, & has good TDD.

Boxing is 100% valid... but only as a part of an MMA regime. That boilz down to "sport boxing" being useless by itself in a street fight.

 

[World eater]

No. And the weird part is I watch boxing every week. It happens that I watch it daily for a stretch and then stop. But boxing has become like elevator music to me. I turn on the TV, put boxing on and then do stuff. Not paying too much attention to it unless it’s the big fights. Similar to Cage warriors and such mma stuff, I often play some event in the background without ficusing too much, usually giving it more attention when I hear excitement from commentators.
The truly important fights, I sometimes watch 2-3 times.

 

[HHJ]

We're talking about a street fight. We face off & I square up pretending that I'm going to box back. Teh boxer literally got about 2 secondz... one punchers chance... to land something before I duck under & have my way with him. If I miss, then he knows my strategy, but then he has to change his stance if he knows anything... either way I get him.

The only chance he has of any longevity in a street fight is if he cross-trains in MMA.

Boxing is 100% valid... but only as a part of an MMA regime

This is very wrong, sir.

You knowing how to double leg someone doesnt mean anything.

You "pretending that im going to box back" certainly doesnt guarantee anything. I trained in grappling and striking, and I LOVE them both, so dont think im one of these "fuck crotchsniffer" types

But basically you are telling me your only "entry" is to "pretend" to strike. That might not be good enough. You may be facing someone who is waiting for you to throw first, is faster and has better footwork than you, who you cannot close the distance on without eating punches.

Boxing, as well as other martial arts are valid by themselves. You can totally beat the shit out of someone in the street with just boxing.

 

[BigOlJeet]

Can’t take this boxing thread serious without the GOAT.

 

[HHJ]

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Can’t take this boxing thread serious without the GOAT.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

This is very wrong, sir.

You knowing how to double leg someone doesnt mean anything.

You "pretending that im going to box back" certainly doesnt guarantee anything. I trained in grappling and striking, and I LOVE them both, so dont think im one of these "fuck crotchsniffer" types

But basically you are telling me your only "entry" is to "pretend" to strike. That might not be good enough. You may be facing someone who is waiting for you to throw first, is faster and has better footwork than you, who you cannot close the distance on without eating punches.

Boxing, as well as other martial arts are valid by themselves. You can totally beat the shit out of someone in the street with just boxing.

I'm not saying the boxer doesn't have a chance. Being generous, I gave him 2 seconds once he engages.

I don't need to engage. I don't like street fights anyway, because nobody wins it. If he never engages then that's great imo.

Obviously he can do his fancy footwork from a distance (while I pretend to be squared up ready to box), but if he wants to hurt me... he's going to have to close the distance, & once he closes the gap, that front leaning stance of a boxer will never last long against me. They're basically a sitting duck based on stance alone. You know this.

They HAVE to cross-train to have more of a 2 second punchers chance.
"cross-training" is also known as MMA. (which per my original post, is why I watch MMA instead of boxing. It has more practical use irl.)

 

[BigOlJeet]

I’m kidding bro @HHJ I used to follow boxing a long time ago, for the last 15-20 years I been out of the loop. I’m even turning casual with MMA lol

 

[moosaev]

The sport of boxing is great, and when you have epic clashes (See Bivol/Butterbiev 2, or historically Ward/Gatti) it can be as exciting as any MMA fight. The problem is boxing has so many problems that it's hard to stay a tried and true fan.
A lot of the fights there's problems with engagement (A LOT of fighters afraid to lose, because a loss will screw them, and re-structure their careers), too many tie-ups, too many promoters, truly HORRIFIC reffing and judges calls (LEGIT corruption, as opposed to inept reffing/ judging, which happens in MMA, but not nearly as much). Not to mention (for all of the above reasons) the best rarely fight the best. It's hard to get psyched knowing that some of the best fighters will either never meet, or meet once their outside of their competitive peaks.

Some of that has been changing with Turki's involvement to be fair. I've never seen a period like the last 18 months where top boxers face each other with regularity. 10 yrs ago we would've never have gotten Beterbiev vs Bivol, let alone twice!

 

[Sean Chowdhury]

I watch HW title fights since they are usually entertaining with wild results like dubois-AJ but other than that no

 

[HHJ]

I watch HW title fights since they are usually entertaining with wild results like dubois-AJ but other than that no

You need the Barrera/Morales trilogy in ya life