Media Physique comparison between Gane and Aspinall ahead of the fight

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He choked out rampage too late in the fight. Rampage claimed he missed training against that sub. thats his story and hes sticking to it.

 

[jeff7b9]

I think it's a case of tyson-spinks syndrome. That wasn't a "real fight" either.

How so?


Spinks and his team have admitted he was terrified and completely "psyched out"


I am not questioning the legitimacy of the finish.
Guy say no Mas. That's a wrap.

I'm legit interested in the technique of the submission
And also a little curious on the ethics of trachea attacking submissions. Curious how others feel. Does it ever come up in competition in BJJ?

Technically mma says you can't attack the trachea but it is imo one of those rules that is impossible to enforce similar to a standing strike to the back of the head. George Foreman punched Joe Frazier directly.in the back of the head, ruled a knockdown. WTF are you supposed to do if the guy turns?

Same thing here.... oh whoopsie... did I jam my thumb knuckle ish bone into your trachea? ... my bad

 

[jeff7b9]

Wasn't it the same choke he used on Machida ?

The Machida choke looked to me to be the Cody McKenzie grip guillotine.

The Jones v Gane choke.... to me looked a lot like the Rothwell v Barnet choke, which I believe was a trachea attack.

 

[Captain Herb]

only place where i saw cheese on fish...

 

[Kung Fu Kowboy]

The Machida choke looked to me to be the Cody McKenzie grip guillotine.

The Jones v Gane choke.... to me looked a lot like the Rothwell v Barnet choke, which I believe was a trachea attack.

Is Jon Jones going to have to choke a b*tch should be his catch phrase

 

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How so?


Spinks and his team have admitted he was terrified and completely "psyched out"

Thats what it looked like with Gane. He couldnt perform. I dont know if it was jones moving up a weight class that put extra pressure on him to win (or just made it a bigger fight in his head). He showed no nerves against Ngannou.

 

[jeff7b9]

Thats what it looked like with Gane. He couldnt perform. I dont know if it was jones moving up a weight class that put extra pressure on him to win (or just made it a bigger fight in his head). He showed no nerves against Ngannou.

How do you expect him to do with his fight tomorrow?

 

[Humongo]

Thats what it looked like with Gane. He couldnt perform. I dont know if it was jones moving up a weight class that put extra pressure on him to win. He showed no nerves against Ngannou.

He and ngannou trained together so there was no real surprises there. It was a very important fight but at the end of the day, he already sparred with ngannou, he knew Francis was human.
On the other hand, Jon Jones was this mythical unbeatable fighter that returned in the search of more glory, and gane was a little insect in the way. Just the sheer media attention that fight brought probably got in his head.

 

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How do you expect him to do with his fight tomorrow?

I expect him to look like he did against Volkov.

 

[MMAFanCal]

Physiques don't win fights.

True. If physique was a big factor, Dricus DuPlessis would have destroyed Khamzat brutally considering how much superior Dricus' physique looks compared to that of Khamzat's.

 

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True. If physique was a big factor, Dricus DuPlessis would have destroyed Khamzat brutally considering how much superior Dricus' physique looks compared to that of Khamzat's.

Except that fight was utter BS.

If that was a real fight on the street and police eventually broke them up would say Khamzat was the "winner"?

 

[RoadKing Custom]

Nah, you know what's ACTUALLY funny?

Every "big fight" (Just in 2025--Pereira vs Ank 1 and 2, Merab vs O'Malley 2, Charles vs Ilia, DDP vs Khamzat) you'll have people who are making proclamations as though they KNOW what's gonna happen. If you're honest, you acknowledge it and have seen it here card after card. And inevitably (of course) many of them are very wrong. But what we really DON'T see is people ahead of time plotting to take the names of anyone who made these ridiculous proclamations so they can turn the forum into the biggest shit show imaginable by dragging them all. Or if we do see that, it's pretty sparse.

But here, (and we all have a pretty good idea why), I keep seeing this same sentiment. For some weird reason (and when I say weird, I mean "obvious"), the Aspinall supporters are looked at as being more egregious than say those who trashed Khamzat and said he wouldn't show up at all and if he did that DDP would be too big and strong for him.

So why don't I save you the time and give you an actual solid breakdown of the fight ahead of time so you don't need to sit around wishing on your lucky star that Gane wins just so you can throw it in people's faces:

It's a fight. A HW fight no less. Gane is a good fighter. Extremely good athlete, polished striker. His skills are good enough to have gotten him into 3 title fights, so I'm quite sure he's no bum.
That said, he's a 3 or 4 to 1 underdog for a reason. He's facing a guy who's at least as fast, more powerful, a far better finisher, and who's grappling looks to be far superior. There are far more paths to victory for Aspinall. But upsets happen. We see it well after week.

Hope that helps.

You've been here long enough to understand that logic and reason have NO place on this forum!!

 

[SuperAlly]

What is making it up? The guy has defended 2 takedowns in the UFC in the 1st round against a 10 days notice Spivac. Took down Baudot, Arlovski, and Volkov. Hasn't gone past 1 minute into round 2. I should be able to say his cardio and wrestling is unknown, especially when people are posting fantasy matches with Brock/Cain/Stipe/Etc...

He has a BJJ base, so I really don't think he's easy to sub, but it's also to be seen if he's on a Werdum/Mir/Big Nog level.

He's very quick and has good power, is decently well rounded bare minimum. However Gane is well rounded too, he's won fights by taking guys down or standing. He got his wrestling checked at a high level which Aspinall has yet to.

I think it's denial to say no one here is shitting on Gane saying he's a guy with no wrestling and a white belt. Or denying there isn't a sizable crowd who expects Aspinall to KO everyone on the feet 1st round forever and he has no weakness.

I'm going to be excited for HW if he gets past Gane and Almeida. Aspinall is minimum top 3 HW right now. However, it remains to be seen what level his game is besides striking. The division is so weak and thin, maybe it doesn't matter.

Everything after the first line of your post is irrelevant bs

Nobody said his grappling is undefeatable or any of the other lies you made up

Try making a post without being childish and immature and making stuff up?

 

[SuperAlly]

You are really going off tilt here little buddy, I hope you are OK.

No I'm not Tiny Timmy. I'm just mocking all you Jones stans embarrassing yourselves with your ridiculous take.

 

[CatchtheseHands]

1. Is 2022 and 2023 a lot more recent than 2015
2. Have we seen evidence Tom has improved his game in those areas of supposed weakness against higher calibre of opposition since then? Have we for Gane?

Thank you and goodnight.

It literally does not matter if it's a year ago or 10 years ago, things still change over time. It doesn't matter how you try to twist it you're still a hypocrite.

No we haven't seen if Tom has or not as he hasn't been on the ground with anyone who is a legitimate high level grappler with submission threats. We also haven't seen him strike with anyone who isnt plodding on the feet or isn't a 1 dimensional striker since Arvloski so we don't know if he improved on anything from that fight. We won't know either of the above until he fights Gane and Almeida.

 

[SuperAlly]

It literally does not matter if it's a year ago or 10 years ago,

of course it matter. Don’t be ridiculous

Also, whether someone has shown any intent or ability to change in that short amount of time matters

Stop being absurd

 

[mmacool]

Fight could go exactly the same way like Jones Vs Gane...

 

[Söze Aldo]

Fight could go exactly the same way like Jones Vs Gane...

But if it doesn't...we may see a resurgence in jacked HWs trying to emulate Game. It will be the 2000s again with superhero looking slabs of meat swangin'.

 

[Motivated BJ Penn]

Aspinall with the toddler physique

 

[Tweak896]

Everything after the first line of your post is irrelevant bs

Nobody said his grappling is undefeatable or any of the other lies you made up

Try making a post without being childish and immature and making stuff up?

Again with the character attacks. Low IQ rebuttal. Your opinion of me matters 0% to my day, just my girlfriend's opinion. I can deal with heat from random internet "bullies" probably because I was in the military. I only care to discuss MMA.

I even pointed out specific examples where people were putting Aspinall in fantasy matches with top HWs. I'm not combing through sherdog to find the people who said what because it's hard as hell to search up specific example quotes that would prove anything to you and I've never seen anyone settle a dispute here that way.

People have good reason to be excited for Aspinall, but yeah I'll see his wrestling + cardio when it comes. Taking down Volkov doesn't matter or defending takedowns from a 10 day notice Spivac doesn't count. Gane took down Volkov just as many times with a broken toe and defended takedowns from Spivac with a full camp, yet I've heard his ground game sucks. I'll wait until this fight happens and see if Aspinall cuts through Gane like butter like everyone has expected.

Either way, I'm not responding to you again in this thread, it's just going to go back and forth with name calling and I'm not a child anymore.