Media Physique comparison between Gane and Aspinall ahead of the fight

You hypocrite you're literally doing the exact same thing with Gane. Clinging onto the JJ and Francis losses and the Tuivasa knock down that happened years ago but when someone holds things like that against Tom it's "things change". How convenient only things can change for Tom not Gane. Only Gane's failures can be held against him, not Tom's.
1. Is 2022 and 2023 a lot more recent than 2015
2. Have we seen evidence Tom has improved his game in those areas of supposed weakness against higher calibre of opposition since then? Have we for Gane?

Thank you and goodnight.
 
I'm hallucinating maybe, but I swear there are people that think his wrestling is perfect, submissions as good as Mir/Werdum or whatever.
You arent hallucinating. You are flat out lying and making shit up.

You do you though.

Its immature and embarrassing.

But you do you.
 
Nah, you know what's ACTUALLY funny?

Every "big fight" (Just in 2025--Pereira vs Ank 1 and 2, Merab vs O'Malley 2, Charles vs Ilia, DDP vs Khamzat) you'll have people who are making proclamations as though they KNOW what's gonna happen. If you're honest, you acknowledge it and have seen it here card after card. And inevitably (of course) many of them are very wrong. But what we really DON'T see is people ahead of time plotting to take the names of anyone who made these ridiculous proclamations so they can turn the forum into the biggest shit show imaginable by dragging them all. Or if we do see that, it's pretty sparse.

But here, (and we all have a pretty good idea why), I keep seeing this same sentiment. For some weird reason (and when I say weird, I mean "obvious"), the Aspinall supporters are looked at as being more egregious than say those who trashed Khamzat and said he wouldn't show up at all and if he did that DDP would be too big and strong for him.

So why don't I save you the time and give you an actual solid breakdown of the fight ahead of time so you don't need to sit around wishing on your lucky star that Gane wins just so you can throw it in people's faces:

It's a fight. A HW fight no less. Gane is a good fighter. Extremely good athlete, polished striker. His skills are good enough to have gotten him into 3 title fights, so I'm quite sure he's no bum.
That said, he's a 3 or 4 to 1 underdog for a reason. He's facing a guy who's at least as fast, more powerful, a far better finisher, and who's grappling looks to be far superior. There are far more paths to victory for Aspinall. But upsets happen. We see it well after week.

Hope that helps.
First off, chill with the “Aspinall fans are the only loud ones” thing. Scroll any Pereira-Ank thread from March and you’ll see Ank truthers swearing Alex was gonna gas in 90 seconds. Merab-O’Malley 2? Half the sub had Sean “piecing him up standing.” Same energy, different jersey. Aspinall stans aren’t special, we’re just the flavor of the month ‘cause the interim belt finally got defended and Jones is still playing hide-and-seek. The second Gane sleeps Tom with a sneaky knee, y’all will pivot to “I knew Aspinall was paper” faster than a Kia theft tutorial.Now the fight, no bullet points, no slideshow.Gane’s not some washed trial horse. Dude’s been in three title fights. Longest reach in the division, moves like a cruiserweight, and his kickboxing is so slick heavyweights look like they’re stuck in mud. People act like Tom’s the only fast guy in the cage—Gane’s lateral speed and footwork made Ngannou chase shadows for 25 minutes until Francis said “screw it” and wrestled. Aspinall’s southpaw jab is nasty, sure, but Gane’s been eating jabs from 7-footers since Bon Gamin days. He circles out, resets, and punishes lunges. If Tom overcommits early (and he loves to wing that left high kick), Gane’s counter knee is sitting right there. Ask Volkov how that feels.Power? Yeah Tom hits like a truck, but Gane’s chin is legit granite. Never been dropped clean in the UFC. Blaydes folded ‘cause he ate a knee while shooting sloppy. Pavlovich ate a perfect counter ‘cause he plants his feet like a statue. Gane doesn’t—he’s sliding. You don’t land flush on a guy who’s already two steps left by the time your hip turns.Grappling’s the big “Aspinall wins easy” talking point, and I get it—Tom’s a BJJ black belt with scary scrambles. But Gane’s TD defense is 70% career, and the two times it cracked were against Jon freakin’ Jones (craftiest wrestler alive) and Spivac in front of his home crowd when he gassed chasing. Aspinall ain’t Jones-level chain wrestling yet, and Gane’s whizzer + frame game is underrated. He stuffed Ngannou’s first 5 takedowns cold. If Tom shoots reactive off a missed kick, Gane sprawls, pops up, and we’re back to the kicking chess match.Paths? Gane: Circle, potshot, calf kick the lead leg ‘til Tom’s chasing on one wheel. Late rounds he’s fresher ‘cause he’s not burning energy cutting the cage. Decision or a flash KO if Aspinall plants for a big swing.
Tom: Early blitz, clinch knee, or trip off a caught kick. Has to be perfect though—any hesitation and Gane’s gone.

Look, Aspinall’s the betting fave for a reason—he’s a freak. But +300 to +400 on Gane isn’t “donkey money,” it’s value. Dude’s got the exact style to make Tom look silly for 25 minutes if Aspinall can’t cut the cage or land early. We’ve seen “unbeatable” heavyweights eat upset pies weekly—remember Blaydes sleeping Derrick Lewis? Gane by decision ain’t crazy, it’s plausible.I’m not bookmarking usernames to drag later. If Tom folds him in 90 seconds, I’ll eat crow and applaud. Just don’t act shocked when Gane’s dancing circles round 4 and the sub’s screaming “HOW IS ASPINALL STILL CHASING??”
 
He's got about all the physical attributes you'd want in an athlete



Mentally, he seems a bit too lackadaisical at times. In the fight game, athleticism helps, but it’s not the be-all end-all like it is in some other sports

I guess dunking doesn't matter in the fight game.
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First off, chill with the “Aspinall fans are the only loud ones” thing. Scroll any Pereira-Ank thread from March and you’ll see Ank truthers swearing Alex was gonna gas in 90 seconds. Merab-O’Malley 2? Half the sub had Sean “piecing him up standing.” Same energy, different jersey. Aspinall stans aren’t special, we’re just the flavor of the month ‘cause the interim belt finally got defended and Jones is still playing hide-and-seek. The second Gane sleeps Tom with a sneaky knee, y’all will pivot to “I knew Aspinall was paper” faster than a Kia theft tutorial.Now the fight, no bullet points, no slideshow.Gane’s not some washed trial horse. Dude’s been in three title fights. Longest reach in the division, moves like a cruiserweight, and his kickboxing is so slick heavyweights look like they’re stuck in mud. People act like Tom’s the only fast guy in the cage—Gane’s lateral speed and footwork made Ngannou chase shadows for 25 minutes until Francis said “screw it” and wrestled. Aspinall’s southpaw jab is nasty, sure, but Gane’s been eating jabs from 7-footers since Bon Gamin days. He circles out, resets, and punishes lunges. If Tom overcommits early (and he loves to wing that left high kick), Gane’s counter knee is sitting right there. Ask Volkov how that feels.Power? Yeah Tom hits like a truck, but Gane’s chin is legit granite. Never been dropped clean in the UFC. Blaydes folded ‘cause he ate a knee while shooting sloppy. Pavlovich ate a perfect counter ‘cause he plants his feet like a statue. Gane doesn’t—he’s sliding. You don’t land flush on a guy who’s already two steps left by the time your hip turns.Grappling’s the big “Aspinall wins easy” talking point, and I get it—Tom’s a BJJ black belt with scary scrambles. But Gane’s TD defense is 70% career, and the two times it cracked were against Jon freakin’ Jones (craftiest wrestler alive) and Spivac in front of his home crowd when he gassed chasing. Aspinall ain’t Jones-level chain wrestling yet, and Gane’s whizzer + frame game is underrated. He stuffed Ngannou’s first 5 takedowns cold. If Tom shoots reactive off a missed kick, Gane sprawls, pops up, and we’re back to the kicking chess match.Paths? Gane: Circle, potshot, calf kick the lead leg ‘til Tom’s chasing on one wheel. Late rounds he’s fresher ‘cause he’s not burning energy cutting the cage. Decision or a flash KO if Aspinall plants for a big swing.
Tom: Early blitz, clinch knee, or trip off a caught kick. Has to be perfect though—any hesitation and Gane’s gone.

Look, Aspinall’s the betting fave for a reason—he’s a freak. But +300 to +400 on Gane isn’t “donkey money,” it’s value. Dude’s got the exact style to make Tom look silly for 25 minutes if Aspinall can’t cut the cage or land early. We’ve seen “unbeatable” heavyweights eat upset pies weekly—remember Blaydes sleeping Derrick Lewis? Gane by decision ain’t crazy, it’s plausible.I’m not bookmarking usernames to drag later. If Tom folds him in 90 seconds, I’ll eat crow and applaud. Just don’t act shocked when Gane’s dancing circles round 4 and the sub’s screaming “HOW IS ASPINALL STILL CHASING??”

I don't think you actually read what I typed. Your opening sentences are literally saying EXACTLY what I said. Every big fight has people claiming they know what will happen in grand proclamations. Those were MY words.

If you're gonna reply, you gotta at least read and understand what you're replying to.

Then, you make these wild claims when you apparently don't know what you're talking about? Gane has a granite chin and "has never been dropped clean in the UFC"?




Edit: and did you miss where I clearly said Gane is a good fighter and upsets happen??

Jeez dude, I can't even tell if you meant to actually reply to MY post!
 
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You arent hallucinating. You are flat out lying and making shit up.

You do you though.

Its immature and embarrassing.

But you do you.
I don't call you names, so how am I really immature? I like to hear from different perspectives.

Anyways I said I'm not a hater of Tom. I watched him and thought he was a cut above the division. However I'm not confident in him like I was with Khamzat because his background isn't something crazy.

Think of all the top HWs before him usually had some skill that was elite. I always thought he was very well rounded. Evolved to where he's fast and has some power.

The HW division needs him to be whatever people hype him up to be and Gane isn't the future. All I'm saying is to pump the brakes until we know more. He has 2 fights that mean anything at HW though so not more to go.
 
I don't call you names, so how am I really immature? I like to hear from different perspectives.

Anyways I said I'm not a hater of Tom. I watched him and thought he was a cut above the division. However I'm not confident in him like I was with Khamzat because his background isn't something crazy.

Think of all the top HWs before him usually had some skill that was elite. I always thought he was very well rounded. Evolved to where he's fast and has some power.

The HW division needs him to be whatever people hype him up to be and Gane isn't the future. All I'm saying is to pump the brakes until we know more. He has 2 fights that mean anything at HW though so not more to go.
You are immature because you keep making up things no one said to fight back against them

Like the massive steaming pile of shite you made up about saying his grappling was unbeatable or whatever in the post I directly responded to

Its childish nonsense
 
You are immature because you keep making up things no one said to fight back against them

Like the massive steaming pile of shite you made up about saying his grappling was unbeatable or whatever in the post I directly responded to

Its childish nonsense
What is making it up? The guy has defended 2 takedowns in the UFC in the 1st round against a 10 days notice Spivac. Took down Baudot, Arlovski, and Volkov. Hasn't gone past 1 minute into round 2. I should be able to say his cardio and wrestling is unknown, especially when people are posting fantasy matches with Brock/Cain/Stipe/Etc...

He has a BJJ base, so I really don't think he's easy to sub, but it's also to be seen if he's on a Werdum/Mir/Big Nog level.

He's very quick and has good power, is decently well rounded bare minimum. However Gane is well rounded too, he's won fights by taking guys down or standing. He got his wrestling checked at a high level which Aspinall has yet to.

I think it's denial to say no one here is shitting on Gane saying he's a guy with no wrestling and a white belt. Or denying there isn't a sizable crowd who expects Aspinall to KO everyone on the feet 1st round forever and he has no weakness.

I'm going to be excited for HW if he gets past Gane and Almeida. Aspinall is minimum top 3 HW right now. However, it remains to be seen what level his game is besides striking. The division is so weak and thin, maybe it doesn't matter.
 
Fighter got more popular and his fanbase got more vocal as he moved up towards the title

My good this is outstanding - has this every happened before? I can't think of one example of an athletes popularity growing and their fanbase becoming more noisy and brash as they continued to beat increasingly hire ranked competition in devastating fashion.

Now we all understand why you are so bent out of shape by this never before seen occurrence

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You are really going off tilt here little buddy, I hope you are OK.
 



Does anyone else see this and wonder of it was a trachea crush submission?

Similar to "10 finger guillotine" or whatever that choke was that Big Ben Rothwell got on Josh Barnett?

Mainly the SPEED with which Gane panicked?

I have seen plenty of dudes in regular dude BJJ class muscle out a DEEP blood choke for at least a few seconds.
Also the position of the head and the blade of the wrist


Just looks to me like Jon (who is one of the nastiest most violent and harmful malicious fighters, targeting knees and shit) jammed his wrist bone into Ganes trachea and bent his head down.
 
Does anyone else see this and wonder of it was a trachea crush submission?

Similar to "10 finger guillotine" or whatever that choke was that Big Ben Rothwell got on Josh Barnett?

Mainly the SPEED with which Gane panicked?

I have seen plenty of dudes in regular dude BJJ class muscle out a DEEP blood choke for at least a few seconds.
Also the position of the head and the blade of the wrist


Just looks to me like Jon (who is one of the nastiest most violent and harmful malicious fighters, targeting knees and shit) jammed his wrist bone into Ganes trachea and bent his head down.
Wasn't it the same choke he used on Machida ?
 
Does anyone else see this and wonder of it was a trachea crush submission?

Similar to "10 finger guillotine" or whatever that choke was that Big Ben Rothwell got on Josh Barnett?

Mainly the SPEED with which Gane panicked?

I have seen plenty of dudes in regular dude BJJ class muscle out a DEEP blood choke for at least a few seconds.
Also the position of the head and the blade of the wrist


Just looks to me like Jon (who is one of the nastiest most violent and harmful malicious fighters, targeting knees and shit) jammed his wrist bone into Ganes trachea and bent his head down.
I think it's a case of tyson-spinks syndrome. That wasn't a "real fight" either.
 


Not that it'll impact the fight, but it was wild Tom was just claiming he was down to 11% body fat. That would make Gane like 5%.

I don't know when Tom was at 11% but it's definitely not in that photo.
 
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