Social Pelosi’s house broken into, husband assaulted

Nancy herself is in DC on the other side of the country.
They live in the same house, and it's in San Francisco ffs. Of course they have baller security. Seems odd that the guy with a drinking problem turns off the security when his wife goes out of town and somehow winds up with a male nudist in his house.
 
I remember the Quebec mosque shooting being a good example, lots of morons were pushing the narrative that the shooter couldn't be white because otherwise they would've released his name and photo immediately and therefore it had to have been a Muslim perpetrator only for the suspect to have been a white nationalist in the end

People were making the same kind of comments in this thread. There's just a burning need for some people to see themselves as perpetual victims. It's sick.
 
Pretty clear it was a crazed liberal drug addict deciding to vent on some 1%.
Well...

The suspect, 42-year-old David Depape, reposted videos made by My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell — a prominent supporter of former President Donald Trump — which peddled false narratives that the 2020 presidential election was rigged in President Joe Biden’s favor, according to CNN, which confirmed the Facebook account with two of Depape’s relatives.

Depape’s Facebook page also reportedly linked to a YouTube video slamming the House select committee investigating the Capitol riots as a “farce commission.”

Depape shared links claiming Covid-19 vaccines were killing people and that the pandemic was engineered by those in power to dismantle and control society, a conspiracy known as the “Great Reset.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarado...ion-conspiracies-reports-say/?sh=42a6063de525

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The Daily Mail is reporting that this guy posted racist, sexist and anti-Semitic slurs and conspiracy theories online. He also posted Qanon stuff. He is also said to have defended Derek Chauvin (Minnesota cop who killed George Floyd with his knee) . But the Mail is a tabloid known for sensationalism so who knows....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...usband-Paul-violently-ASSAULTED-attacker.html

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I have no idea if this guy leans right or left or neither. Just saying that there isn't any info to suggest he leans left.
 
The only thing I believe about this entire situation is that Pelosi's husband is in the hospital.

He's 80/81 years old. If he was attacked with a hammer by anyone he'd be dead. It doesn't take many shots with a hammer by someone with average strength for them to be fatal to someone that elderly.

Edit - Holy Fuck the story has developed since the 1st page.
 
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Her being one of the most important people on the planet makes her home a security issue to the nation.
Yep. She is right behind the VP in the presidential line of succession. Something with this just isn't adding up.
 
People were making the same kind of comments in this thread. There's just a burning need for some people to see themselves as perpetual victims. It's sick.
Its really common and no matter how often they're wrong they will still repeat the same thing the next time there's an incident.
Plant a listening device
Plant a bomb
Search the house for anything to use as leverage
Hide and wait to kidnap her
Damage the house out of spite

There's all sorts of things people would do if given the opportunity. There's no way her house is left unsecured even if she's gone. Unless people are dumber than I think.

Her being one of the most important people on the planet makes her home a security issue to the nation. I don't know how it can be left unsecured no matter who is or isn't there.
They live in the same house, and it's in San Francisco ffs. Of course they have baller security. Seems odd that the guy with a drinking problem turns off the security when his wife goes out of town and somehow winds up with a male nudist in his house.
I would imagine Nancy spends most of her time in DC and her residence there is more secure. What's the alternative that you guys are getting at here, some kind of plot to have Paul assaulted? For what purpose? Like a false flag operation or something before the midterms to rile up the base?
 
My point is though that a crazy person can justify their actions through a left or right wing lens. That doesn’t mean they represent the vast majority of either left or right. It means they have head problems. The thing that concerns me more than the obvious problem of there being crazy people who want to harm others (this is a problem that can be handled/ averted) is when it becomes politicized for whatever’s sides gain. It isn’t a left or right issue that there’s crazy violent people, the dividing line is who condemns it and who excuses or endorses it.

Chait made a similar point to the one I made:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/10/the-paul-pelosi-attack-is-a-harbinger-of-much-worse.html

The political right does not have a monopoly on stochastic terrorism. ...

But there are three relevant ways in which the political right does differ from the left. First, it maintains a highly permeable boundary between conspiracy theorists and party officials. Indeed, it is difficult to distinguish one from the other. Donald Trump is an avid consumer and spreader of conspiracy theories, and the party’s ranks are filled at even the highest levels with officials who spread deranged claims. Marjorie Taylor Greene has claimed, among other things, that Pelosi has a “gazpacho police” — she meant Gestapo — persecuting Republicans. Michigan Republican gubernatorial nominee Tudor Dixon has an elaborate theory that Democrats devised COVID shutdowns to destroy the United States as a revenge plot for the South’s defeat in the Civil War. (If you listen to her reasons, they make even less sense.) The sort of bigoted gibberish Depepe apparently spouted on social media, and which likely inspired his attack, is only incrementally distinguishable from the beliefs of high-ranking Republicans.

Second, mass gun ownership has become a right-wing fetish. Republicans are not the only Americans who own guns. But they are almost solely responsible for the near absence of regulation that has enabled individuals to amass weapons of war, and they are largely unique in their professed belief that gun ownership has a political purpose. They see guns as a weapon against political oppression. And they — again, including their elected officials — frequently threaten to turn them against the government.

And third, the Republican Party has a near monopoly on partisan armed militias. Conservatives like to point to the dangers of extremist groups like antifa, but antifa is tiny, lightly armed, and generally hostile to the Democrats. (Following Joe Biden’s inauguration, antifa vandalized Democratic Party headquarters and chanted, “Fuck Joe Biden.”) Groups like the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, by contrast, have staunch partisan loyalty. And Republicans increasingly reciprocate their loyalty. Republicans routinely denounce domestic anti-terrorism surveillance as a plot to intimidate their supporters. Proud Boys are infiltrating a powerful Republican organization in Florida with the tacit assent of leaders like Marco Rubio.
 
I would imagine Nancy spends most of her time in DC and her residence there is more secure. What's the alternative that you guys are getting at here, some kind of plot to have Paul assaulted? For what purpose? Like a false flag operation or something before the midterms to rile up the base?

They're "just asking questions" designed to suggest that there's something more to the story that makes Pelosi the villain. Again, it's fucking sick. Partisanship just completely destroys people's sense of basic humanity. An old man gets attacked in his home, and the first thing people think is how they can spin it against their perceived political enemies.
 
Its really common and no matter how often they're wrong they will still repeat the same thing the next time there's an incident.


I would imagine Nancy spends most of her time in DC and her residence there is more secure. What's the alternative that you guys are getting at here, some kind of plot to have Paul assaulted? For what purpose? Like a false flag operation or something before the midterms to rile up the base?
I'm not getting at anything. I'm telling you it's pants on head crazy to be so cavalier about what amounts to a matter of national security.
 
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Its really common and no matter how often they're wrong they will still repeat the same thing the next time there's an incident.


I would imagine Nancy spends most of her time in DC and her residence there is more secure. What's the alternative that you guys are getting at here, some kind of plot to have Paul assaulted? For what purpose? Like a false flag operation or something before the midterms to rile up the base?
Yeah, the false-flag claims have already begun. On Reddit:

"The political establishment has been begging for a "right wing" violent attack, because they are about to lose the midterm elections. Timing right before the election- a hail Mary. At minimum to give them an attempt at establishing a narrative for a reason why they didn't lose as much as anticipated, should there be any "fortification." Pelosi's security would be on anyone approaching the house from a mile away. Even if she wasn't Speaker of the House, someone with that much wealth and skeletons in the closet would have security. I'd be glad to be wrong, but it all lines-up way too well."

"Seems to be a false flag to me until proven otherwise. Scott said police responded to a wellbeing check and found DePape and Paul Pelosi, 82, struggling over a hammer. He said officers then witnessed DePape pull the hammer away from Pelosi and "violently assaulted" him. So this guy DePape is is the house for who knows how long. All of a sudden the police make a well being check (by whom), then once the police make an entrance, DePape then grabs the hammer from Pelosi and starts hitting him with it and screaming where is Nancy. Home invasions don’t go like this, you either take a hostage if you don’t find the person you’re looking for or you don’t (if you catch my drift). This doesn’t seem right. I’m sure the story will change in the next few hours like High School gossip."

"This seems a bit off to me. It seems like the queen tried to sacrifice a pawn to swing the election. Here's what they have said so far...

  • The police get dispatched to the Pelosi home

  • The police show up and then see a 42 year old grappling a hammer with an 80 year old... seriously that was a fight?

  • After the police show up rhe suspect started hitting Paul with the hammer

  • At some point the suspect starts yelling, "where's Nancy?"
All while she's known to be out of town??? I see them repeating the same exact narrative until November 9th... A deranged Trump supporting Ultra MAGA Republican extremist tried to kill Nancy and Paul. We need to denounce the Republicans and remove them from power. Someone running for office in California has already started the blame game on all Republicans because they caused the attack."

 
This guy went from nudity activist to "Stop the Steal" conspiracy theorist to actually trying to assault the Speaker of the House.

I pray for all of you...get off the internet, play a sport, bang a chick, avoid politics for a weekend. Please.

{<jordan}
 
Yep. She is right behind the VP in the presidential line of succession. Something with this just isn't adding up.
It could just be a rich drunk old dude refusing to be inconvenienced. But even then I'd think there'd be at least one switched on guy assigned to make sure things were safe and sound. For example, let's took at a comparatively insignificant dude like Joe Rogan. If anyone thinks he just switches on the security system when they go on vacation then they're just naive.

This is either some surprising dumbassery, which is possible, or odd as hell. I'm just a random dude but old fella is hella important and I wouldn't just leave him be a free range liability.
 
They're "just asking questions" designed to suggest that there's something more to the story that makes Pelosi the villain. Again, it's fucking sick. Partisanship just completely destroys people's sense of basic humanity. An old man gets attacked in his home, and the first thing people think is how they can spin it against their perceived political enemies.
Well, I'm not going to assume that they're doing so for that reason but I do think that some out there will cast such doubts on certain stories for that reason.
I'm not getting at anything. I'm telling you it's pants on head crazy to be so cavalier about what amounts to a matter of national security.
That's not what you said initially, you said this
No way that one of the most powerful and richest political figures in the US doesn't have Fort Knox level security. Something's off. No way this was just a random crime.
Which in fairness is true in that its not a random crime and seems to be politically motivated as the guy seems to be a right wing CT nut. Is that what you meant?
 
They're "just asking questions" designed to suggest that there's something more to the story that makes Pelosi the villain. Again, it's fucking sick. Partisanship just completely destroys people's sense of basic humanity. An old man gets attacked in his home, and the first thing people think is how they can spin it against their perceived political enemies.
Get off it Jack. Either a stupid mistake has been made or something is up. Either scenario suggests there's room for improvement. The dumbass just asking questions dismissal of it all is counterproductive.
 
Well, I'm not going to assume that they're doing so for that reason but I do think that some out there will cast such doubts on certain stories for that reason.

That's not what you said initially, you said this

Which in fairness is true in that its not a random crime and seems to be politically motivated as the guy seems to be a right wing CT nut. Is that what you meant?
Yeah, obviously it's not just a random crime as some people suggested it on the first page. Duh.
 
It could just be a rich drunk old dude refusing to be inconvenienced. But even then I'd think there'd be at least one switched on guy assigned to make sure things were safe and sound. For example, let's took at a comparatively insignificant dude like Joe Rogan. If anyone thinks he just switches on the security system when they go on vacation then they're just naive.

This is either some surprising dumbassery, which is possible, or odd as hell. I'm just a random dude but old fella is hella important and I wouldn't just leave him be a free range liability.
What do you think Rogan has, a moat filled with sharks that have laser beams attached?

Look at what just happened to Shinzo Abe and Salman Rushdie, two very famous people who have security follow them everywhere. Nobody is completely safe. I don't know what kind of security Pelosi has but this is hardly the first time someone has managed to get into a famous person's home and attack them. George Harrison had someone sneak into his house and stab him, etc.
 
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