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You're right. I don't know why we automatically assume they're lying scumbags. There must be something wrong with us.
Ongoing Team Lloyd Irvin Scandal - Part 6
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You're right. I don't know why we automatically assume they're lying scumbags. There must be something wrong with us.
Tell him to notify the police. Those are serious threats on the recording. Criminal in my opinion.
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This. You can get the phone records, and figure out who called. If it were him, it just shows how much of a scumbag he is.
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I think that my friend is not interested in contacting the police, just wanted to make sure that his employer knew that his employee is a scumbag rapist that makes multiple threatening phone calls. He was actually called multiple times, but the guy only left one message. The other times he exploded on the phone with my friend while he just sat and laughed and clowned him.
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So he thought enough about Maldonado to leave bad reviews,save a Voicemail,take the time to upload the voicemail, and tell everyone about it. BUT won't go to the Police? Sounds reasonable.... :icon_conf
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I haven't listened to this - I don't really feel the need to. Just what he's not contested in court is enough to convince me he's scum.
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BTW...That Voicemail doesn't even sound like Maldonado in the interview.
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Honestly I didn't think it sounded like him. There is software available to analyze sonograms that compare voice qualities to identify whether a speaker is the same or not. In this instance, there would be issues due to vastly different sound qualities. And, objectively, it did not sound like the same guy to me-- of course in the video he's on his best behavior and not speaking in the vernacular like the guy on the phone. It could be the same guy, but it's not compelling.
A verified phone number would be a lot harder evidence.
http://www.audioforensicexpert.com/tag/voice-identification-2/
Sounds pretty similar to me. Obviously it's different sound quality as you said, but still sounds pretty close. If I was recorded on a voicemail, I would sound nothing like that. If it's not him, it's a guy that sounds pretty close.
So the competing theory here is that this guy paid someone who sounds close enough to him to call his cell phone, leave that message, and then framed Maldonado with it? And by framed I mean posted on Yelp for like an hour before it came down.
Also what hasn't been mentioned yet is that at least one other critic of Maldonado claims to have received a call from him too. She says he was cordial with her when he called, but she commented on a Facebook thread about this voice mail message and seemed to believe the voice was his.
Now I understand how he could get acquitted even after getting caught raping on video. The video was too blurry to tell for sure, just like the voicemail is too poor quality to tell for sure. Just weird coincidence after weird coincidence with this guy.
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If the guy went thru all of that trouble finding out where Maldonado teaches,calling the school,keeping the Voicemail, and posting it online, why wouldn't he go to the police with all the damning "evidence" he supposedly has? That just doesn't make sense.
Oh and in the same Facebook thread it was mentioned that the number was traced back to a Magic Jack. It's pretty well known that you can use a Magic Jack to make relatively untraceable calls.
Use a Magic Jack; if you get caught, say it was somebody framing you. Rinse and repeat.
Use a Magic Jack; if you get caught, say it was somebody framing you. Rinse and repeat.
Cops would not do shit with this even if Maldonado was on a cell phone video making the call, holding up two forms of government ID, and his grandma got in the video, pointed to him, and said "That's my Mateo!"
I'm not sure what planet people live on where cops have time to deal with this stuff. It'd be different if he made 48 threatening calls to a Senator or something, but just calling one regular guy once they won't care. The most you could possibly hope for is to ask a judge for a restraining order or something.
Cops do not just wait around for crimes to happen. It's more like crimes happen all the time, and they have to determine which ones to just ignore because they want to go after the bigger stuff. A guy from across the country leaving a threatening voicemail because you told his employer he was a rapist is likely not even on the radar of things to pursue.
I mean just think about the Silva thing for a second. His wife told the police he stuck a gun in her mouth while she screamed for her life. The response seems to have been that they told her to file for a restraining order if she really wanted to. There were no charges for that. They don't have time.
I understand this but I still think they should notify the police. Not saying they would pursue it right away but it would be good to keep on file at the very least.
Yeah I mean he should close the loop on it since he got this far, but still it's mostly worthless. The conversation goes like this:
"Hi. I'd like to report a threatening voicemail I received."
"Do you know who it was from?"
"Yes."
"Do you know why he called?"
"Yes. I left a voicemail for his boss earlier that day saying that he should not let a rapist like him work there."
"........Well maybe the best thing to do here would be to stop calling him and then maybe he will stop calling you."
Plus it seems this guy lives on the West Coast. Maldonado is in NYC. What are the cops going to do again? Call the NYPD? Call the FBI? This kind of stuff is not worth a federal case.
So yeah he should make a report just to do the right thing, but it's a very discouraging process. You cannot just call the cops and make a report. You need to go down to the station during normal business hours and do it in person. It takes several hours, and for something like this you'll just be waiting around until someone has enough free time to get to you. The guy reporting a burglary is going to take priority. And once you make the report, you know it's going nowhere.
This is why I just shake my head when people act like speaking out against these guys is the easy thing to do. No way. They retaliate for this stuff, and there is not much that can be done. You think someone like Georgette Oden has not been harassed and threatened a bunch of times by now? It comes with the territory.
Imagine being an abortion doctor or something. They get calls worse than that all the time. People show up at their kids' schools and threaten them. That is what happens when you take a real stand on a hot button issue. It is also why most people just shut up and let scumbags operate without saying anything because they are afraid of the retaliation.
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Balto is right on this one. Unless he was calling a Senator and leaving threatening messages or some kind of figure the cops will actually care about (sad I know), they really won't do anything.. even making a file..
Legally there is nothing that can be done.
For all we know, Maldonado already called NYPD and reported the initial voicemail as harassment. That was what they were talking about doing on the Justice for Matt page. Cops don't give a fuck either way.
The Magic Jack is super tough to trace. There was an article about some dude who made 48 threatening phone calls to Nancy Pelosi's house. He said stuff like he was going to burn down her house.
It took the FBI and Capitol Police about 1.5 months of work to catch him. Nobody is going through that for something like this.
http://www.switched.com/2010/04/15/man-busted-for-harassing-nancy-pelosi-with-untraceable-magicja/
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With his trial result, you would think people will not rely upon our justice system for anything has to do with the kid.
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Its like Judge Dredd where they can only care about the real stuff like this one
http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/armed-agents-kill-harmless-baby-deer-in-raid/
