Xbox Official Xbox thread

[Madmick]

Oh, I see now. I’ll edit my posts.

Sorry @Madmick !

You needn't. Yes, I corrected you on the charging time. It takes 2 hours to charge a PS4 controller.

However, I also pointed out that PS4 controller batteries can run down after several years of usage to where the max charge-life is only 2-3 hours. That's the reason why it takes so long to charge the controller, and why it's not wise to use quickcharge stations on them. This is another reason phone battery lives degrade more quickly. Slower charging helps to preserve the life of the battery, but that inevitably degrades, no matter what you do, even in non-quickcharge environments, as that chart on the previous page showed. That chart shows the theoretical, ideal life of a lithium ion battery, btw, irrespective of temperature storing or element exposure. Real world battery charge-lives will degrade faster than that no matter what. In fact, these batteries age regardless of whether they're in use.

With batteries ?

Yes. If you look at how the charge kits are designed, the only difference is the batteries are replaceable, so once they battery's charge-life has declined, you can replace it without buying a whole new controller. That isn't possible with the PS4 or PS5.

You insert the batteries into the "Battery Door". You insert that into the controller. You can then charge the batteries via USB without ever removing the door from the controller. Thus, practically speaking, it works exactly the same as the PS4 or PS5 controller. You stick a USB cord in, it recharges.

 

[4daLuLZ]

Yes. If you look at how the charge kits are designed, the only difference is the batteries are replaceable, so once they battery's charge-life has declined, you can replace it without buying a whole new controller. That isn't possible with the PS4.

You insert the batteries into the "Battery Door". You insert that into the controller. You can then charge the batteries via USB without ever removing the door from the controller. Thus, practically speaking, it works exactly the same as the PS4 or PS5 controller. You stick a USB cord in, it recharges.

K but I’d have to see / read about it in action.

 

[Madmick]

K but I’d have to see / read about it in action.

Check out PowerA's products. These aren't your typical third party fodder. These are officially licensed accessories by Microsoft. Furthermore, they work with both the Xbox Series X/S and the Xbox One controllers:
https://www.powera.com/product_platform/xbox-series-x-s/#charging1-p

 

[Hitman81]

Man this sucks. Im a Playstation guy but Game Pass is REALLY fucking appealing. Problem is I dont like either of the systems MS is putting out. I dont like how the X looks and I dont need a disc drive. I dont like that the S is powered down and has a small hard drive. I also hate that the controllers need batteries. Yes I am aware there are solutions to some of these problems but I dont like having to spend more money right out of the gate to do it.

I feel loyal to Sony but on the same token I'm honestly not all that interested in their exclusives, even if they had their own version of game pass. But i feel like the digital PS5 is the most appealing system.

Thankfully I dont have to make a decision now but its a lot to think about.

 

[Deadwing88]

 

[4daLuLZ]

Man this sucks. Im a Playstation guy but Game Pass is REALLY fucking appealing. Problem is I dont like either of the systems MS is putting out. I dont like how the X looks and I dont need a disc drive. I dont like that the S is powered down and has a small hard drive. I also hate that the controllers need batteries. Yes I am aware there are solutions to some of these problems but I dont like having to spend more money right out of the gate to do it.

I feel loyal to Sony but on the same token I'm honestly not all that interested in their exclusives, even if they had their own version of game pass. But i feel like the digital PS5 is the most appealing system.

Thankfully I dont have to make a decision now but its a lot to think about.

I will say that Sony is coming off a bit too anti consumer / full of itself.
Not a lot but a bit.

They need to sort out this pre ordering bullshit and need to get their upgrade policies in order.

GamePass doesn’t appeal to me. Their policies, yeah. The games on there itself ..........meh.

 

[Deadwing88]

It's playable ?



May be closer than we think..

 

[Hitman81]

I will say that Sony is coming off a bit too anti consumer / full of itself.
Not a lot but a bit.

They need to sort out this pre ordering bullshit and need to get their upgrade policies in order.

GamePass doesn’t appeal to me. Their policies, yeah. The games on there itself ..........meh.

Yeah i see what you mean about game pass. You have to figure though that now they should be able to put out two decent games a year to pay for the membership and the rest is just a bonus? I dont know. Im torn.

 

[method115]

Man this sucks. Im a Playstation guy but Game Pass is REALLY fucking appealing. Problem is I dont like either of the systems MS is putting out. I dont like how the X looks and I dont need a disc drive. I dont like that the S is powered down and has a small hard drive. I also hate that the controllers need batteries. Yes I am aware there are solutions to some of these problems but I dont like having to spend more money right out of the gate to do it.

I feel loyal to Sony but on the same token I'm honestly not all that interested in their exclusives, even if they had their own version of game pass. But i feel like the digital PS5 is the most appealing system.

Thankfully I dont have to make a decision now but its a lot to think about.

If Sony exclusives didn’t interest me so much I wouldn’t even think about getting a PS5. It would easily be the series x for me. Not even because of game pass that doesn’t interest me just cause they have the stronger console. The disc drive would be useless to me though.

 

[Hitman81]

If Sony exclusives didn’t interest me so much I wouldn’t even think about getting a PS5. It would easily be the series x for me. Not even because of game pass that doesn’t interest me just cause they have the stronger console. The disc drive would be useless to me though.

Its a close call. Im a PS guy though so im a little nervous about switching. Like I love Gran Turismo. How does it stack up against Forza? I've read conflicting reports

 

[Kevster]

Its a close call. Im a PS guy though so im a little nervous about switching. Like I love Gran Turismo. How does it stack up against Forza? I've read conflicting reports

Forza prob took over as the better from 3 onwards, it’s miles better imo, then there’s the choice of the track based games, Forza 1-7 and the quite brilliant open world Horizon spin offs which are possibly even better.

 

[nefti]

Mocrsoft knows that if you buy the xbox series s in about 6 months you will buy the $200 ssd expansion kit. So you paid the same ammount for a weaker machine in the end. Lol

 

[Madmick]

Mocrsoft knows that if you buy the xbox series s in about 6 months you will buy the $200 ssd expansion kit. So you paid the same ammount for a weaker machine in the end. Lol

You realize that Sony's 825GB SSD (in both units) is only 325GB larger than the XSS, and it also requires highly expensive SSDs if you want to play PS5 games directly from storage, right? In fact, Sony has said these games require SSDs as fast as their internal SSD, but right now, there aren't yet any SSDs on the market that fast, and they haven't confirmed an "approved" list at all, yet.

Assuming they mean only PCIe Gen4 m.2 SSDs, for 1TB, examples:

• ($150) Crucial P5
• ($190) Corsair MP600
• ($190) Gigabyte Aorus Gen4
• ($192) Team Cardea Zero Z440
• ($196) Patriot Viper Gaming VP4100
• ($200) Sabrent Rocket 4.0
• ($218) Seagate Firecuda 520
• ($230) Samsung 980 Pro

These drives are all half as fast (at best) as the PS4 drive, except for the 980 Pro, and aren't as fast as the Seagate SEC card. The Crucial P5 is only a 1/3rd as fast. So if PS5 games work from that drive it relates to us that all the hype Sony made of their drive was hot air, and it really just affords marginally better load times than the XSX SSD (while the Crucial will have marginally worse load times).

*Edit* Oh yeah, this PushSquare article from 2 days ago says the 980 Pro is probably the first SSD that will receive approval from Sony. Thus, right now, it would appear it's actually more expensive to expand the storage of the PS5.
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/09/this_could_be_the_first_ps5_compatible_ssd

So PS5 owners are in the exact same boat, dude.

 

[Mau]

Mocrsoft knows that if you buy the xbox series s in about 6 months you will buy the $200 ssd expansion kit. So you paid the same ammount for a weaker machine in the end. Lol

Everyone is fucked dude. You won't end with 825GB either. Miles Morales which is a glorified DLC at best takes 10% of that space already.

 

[Dizzy]

Everyone is fucked dude. You won't end with 825GB either. Miles Morales which is a glorified DLC at best takes 10% of that space already.

You played it? Are you Travis Scott? Was it lit?

 

[Dizzy]

You realize that Sony's 825GB SSD (in both units) is only 325GB larger than the XSS, and it also requires highly expensive SSDs if you want to play PS5 games directly from storage, right? In fact, Sony has said these games require SSDs as fast as their internal SSD, but right now, there aren't yet any SSDs on the market that fast, and they haven't confirmed an "approved" list at all, yet.

Assuming they mean only PCIe Gen4 m.2 SSDs, for 1TB, examples:

• ($150) Crucial P5
• ($190) Corsair MP600
• ($190) Gigabyte Aorus Gen4
• ($192) Team Cardea Zero Z440
• ($196) Patriot Viper Gaming VP4100
• ($200) Sabrent Rocket 4.0
• ($218) Seagate Firecuda 520
• ($230) Samsung 980 Pro

These drives are all half as fast (at best) as the PS4 drive, except for the 980 Pro, and aren't as fast as the Seagate SEC card. The Crucial P5 is only a 1/3rd as fast. So if PS5 games work from that drive it relates to us that all the hype Sony made of their drive was hot air, and it really just affords marginally better load times than the XSX SSD (while the Crucial will have marginally worse load times).

*Edit* Oh yeah, this PushSquare article from 2 days ago says the 980 Pro is probably the first SSD that will receive approval from Sony. Thus, right now, it would appear it's actually more expensive to expand the storage of the PS5.
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/09/this_could_be_the_first_ps5_compatible_ssd

So PS5 owners are in the exact same boat, dude.

“The exact same boat” starting off with 60% more storage.

 

[HereticBD]

Its a close call. Im a PS guy though so im a little nervous about switching. Like I love Gran Turismo. How does it stack up against Forza? I've read conflicting reports

I'm not really into racing games, but I believe the consensus is that Forza took GT over, as the premiere racing sim on the market.

 

[LuchaBear]

Ya I wish they had a digital Series X. I don't see the point in buying disks when the format seems to change every few years.

CD
DVD
HD DVD
Blu Ray
4K Blue Ray


What's next? They've become a hassle.

 

[Kevster]

“The exact same boat” starting off with 60% more storage.

Lol the word exact obviously has a brand new definition, could have easily said similar which would have been accurate.

But nope.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

For this upcoming generation I’ve just resigned myself to the fact that I will probably only be able to hold a small number of games at any one time on my console. I got my PS4 in June 2015 and it only came with a 500 gb HDD. In January 2017 I swapped it out with a 2TB but if it’s not affordable this coming generation I’ll just learn to live with deleting games and downloading others on a more frequent basis.

I’ll have to talk to Mrs. Worm about changing our home internet plan to one without any data limit. I think right now we’re at 500gb (or maybe it’s 650gb) a month, and we basically come right up to the line or even cross it every month since covid because my wife is working from home and is on zoom meetings like 30 hours per week, our kids watch lots of shows on Netflix, and occasionally the games on my PS4 will do automatic updates (fuck you COD Warzone ) that will push us over our limit and then we have to pay extra.