Obviously folks like
@Seano and
@HereticBD would think JD won no matter what he did. But that's because they are partisan, I'm not.
JD has always been a professional speaker. He didn't do anything great, but Tim Walz was clearly on the backfoot and it showed on his face. His biggest weapon is his folksy charisma and he used none of it because he's not actually a cerebral guy. JD Vance isn't either but he pretends to be one much more successfully.
So yes JD Vance won this debate.
@Blayt7hh will have to deal with that by spinning this into some kind of one-liner that won't land like he expects it to.
@Helden I want to make it clear that I'm not gloating. VP debates don't do shit. They are a glorified formality. JD Vance won but it won't do much for the Trump campaign apart from heal some of his own bad press which wasn't going to effect the votes much anyway.
I'm still expecting to win the sig bet, but I don't consider this VP win to a factor, if that makes sense.