RBR ***Official*** Sherdog Sanctioned Jake Paul vs Anderson Silva SHOBOX-PPV 10/29

[Ares Black]

i like you ares. you know that. you don’t know what you’re talking about. if a thread about sara mcmann ever pops up here, we’ll ask for your input.

ope i guess that one extra fight makes him better. more fights = more skills. travis fulton is the mma goat.

The punctuation in this post is lacking.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Many people thought he beat Alex the first fight who literally was the middleweight- and light heavyweight kickboxing champ.

but he didn’t. so he lost. like he always did to good fighters. right?

 

[The Diplomat]

Woodly and Askren have very poor boxing skills. Anderson is old and was a world class MMA fighter, not a world class boxer. Jakes journey has been a good one for him personally, but i dont believe he will ever be a world class boxer. Im sure there are good fights for him that he can win. He brings a lot of attention to combat sports which is a good thing.

Do you think the Chavez Jr. fight was a) Chavez not taking Silva seriously, b) Chavez being washed up, or c) Silva legitimately being the better fighter that night? Could be mix or match.

 

[StewDogg11]

Silva showed dangerous hands at many points in his career. That was actually a stupid fucking statement by Ariel

When did he ever put someone on a highlight reel with his hands besides a Xaned out Forrest Griffin?

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Do you think the Chavez Jr. fight was a) Chavez not taking Silva seriously, b) Chavez being washed up, or c) Silva legitimately being the better fighter that night?

more b and c than a, as not taking people seriously is chavez’s default. he’s taken like two fights seriously ever.

 

[Ares Black]

And MMA is not boxing.

True. MMA is much, much more interesting.

 

[The Diplomat]

When did he ever put someone on a highlight reel with his hands besides a Xaned out Forrest Griffin?

 

[SakurabasEar]

keyword: KICK. his entire striking acumen is predicated on using his kicks to dictate range. watch any adesanya fight ever, dude. also LOL @ top tier kickboxer, he beat no one and lost to everyone decent he fought. so you don’t know shit about boxing OR kickboxing and are still trying to argue about it. sick.

"Beat no one!" (because I don’t follow Kickboxing enough to know who anybody is)

And yes fighters in mma or kickboxing do dictate range with a leg kick. Great observation. Overall striking still goes to Isreal hands alone in that match up. Paul was getting picked apart by the punches of a 47 year old anderson silva. Izzy could easily out strike this guy

 

[OldFashion]

but he didn’t. so he lost. like he always did to good fighters. right?

So are you arguing that you don't need to be elite at kickboxing in order to fight a very competitive fight against literally the best guy in the world? Good one

 

[TGArthur]

keyword: KICK. his entire striking acumen is predicated on using his kicks to dictate range. watch any adesanya fight ever, dude. also LOL @ top tier kickboxer, he beat no one and lost to everyone decent he fought. so you don’t know shit about boxing OR kickboxing and are still trying to argue about it. sick.

weren’t you supposed to be telling me how dangerous rabbit punches are?

He may be crippled on kicks, but he's no sleeper on his feet either

 

[GeneTunney7]

Woodly and Askren have very poor boxing skills. Anderson is old and was a world class MMA fighter, not a world class boxer. Jakes journey has been a good one for him personally, but i dont believe he will ever be a world class boxer. Im sure there are good fights for him that he can win. He brings a lot of attention to combat sports which is a good thing.

I don't disagree, just pointing out the goal post is moving. Dude above said no shot Jake beats Izzy in any combat sport and I am pointing out the exact same argument has been used vs Jakes previous three MMA opponents and he beat them all. Anderson is old, yes, but dude been juicing his balls off and is no regular 47 yr old. He is not in his prime but even still, can we say for sure that Izzy is a superior boxer to Anderson? Their MMA bout was even pretty closely contested and that is when Andy was under USADA. Izzy ain't a boxer either, he is a kick boxer who has been doing nothing but wrestle and BJJ for past half decade or so.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

So are you arguing that you don't need to be elite at kickboxing in order to fight a very competitive fight against literally the best guy in the world? Good one

no you actually don’t. in fact, you can be mediocre and beat great fighters in kickboxing and israel STILL couldn’t even do that!

please argue more about sports you don’t follow.

 

[OldFashion]

I don't disagree, just pointing out the goal post is moving. Dude above said no shot Jake beats Izzy in any combat sport and I am pointing out the exact same argument has been used vs Jakes previous three MMA opponents and he beat them all. Anderson is old, yes, but dude been juicing his balls off and is no regular 47 yr old. He is not in his prime but even still, can we say for sure that Izzy is a superior boxer to Anderson? Their MMA bout was even pretty closely contested and that is when Andy was under USADA. Izzy ain't a boxer either, he is a kick boxer who has been doing nothing but wrestle and BJJ for past half decade or so.

Just because some retards were saying that jake would lose against Askren and Woodley doesn't mean everyone would. Everyone with a brain knew that this would be a hard fight for a nearly 50 year old metal-legged Anderson Silva. Stop it with the strawmanning

 

[TGArthur]

this was the first guy from MMA he fought who can actually throw a punch, and he fought him at 47, so it doesn't say much if you use more than a couple of brain cells

I agree, but you know how these forums works if you've been here a while. Just read some of the comments

 

[LMP]

Do you think the Chavez Jr. fight was a) Chavez not taking Silva seriously, b) Chavez being washed up, or c) Silva legitimately being the better fighter that night? Could be mix or match.

I think it was a bit of Chaver Jr being washed, and Anderson having a decent set of boxing skills. Anderson isnt a bum and Jake had his hands full here. Anderson being younger and i think he could have handled Jake pretty easily. It was a winnable fight for Anderson. Paul is obviously taking this career path seriously.

 

[Halge]

Silva showed dangerous hands at many points in his career. That was actually a stupid fucking statement by Ariel

Yeah, when he said it I couldn't help but be reminded of this:

 

[OldFashion]

no you actually don’t. in fact, you can be mediocre and beat great fighters in kickboxing and israel STILL couldn’t even do that!

please argue more about sports you don’t follow.

He beat Bogdan Stoica, who was no.1 ranked light heavyweight in the world and top 10 middleweight for several years and Yousri Belgaroui who was a top 10 middleweight in order to challenge for the title. Yes, that's elite. Now stop trolling clown

 

[Squintz]

anderson is 10 times the boxer israel will ever be. for a lifelong mma fan, you don’t seem to understand the sport well. being good at mma =/= being good at boxing. anderson just so happens to be good at both.

guess jake loses a boxing match to demian maia too because he’s really good at mma.

To be fair I think he’s mostly a WMMA fan.

 

[The Diplomat]

I think it was a bit of Chaver Jr being washed, and Anderson having a decent set of boxing skills. Anderson isnt a bum and Jake hadvhis hands full here. Anderson being younger and i think he could have handled Jake pretty easily. It was a winnable fight for Anderson. Paul is obviously taking this career path seriously.

Yeah, 35 year old Anderson beats current Jake. But then again, 35 year old Anderson beats everyone.

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

Well it was actually a good contest, props to Paul, he won in fine fashion, his cardio and chin held up well. Nate Diaz would be a fun one