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I believe that had Crawford expressed interest in signing with PBC back then he would've had a lucrative contract comparable to what he was making at Top Rank. Crawford knowingly chose to stay with the latter. It is what it is. I never downplayed Postol. However, Crawford should've had much better wins on his resume than guys like him and Gamboa given that he turned pro clear back in 2008. If you think otherwise then you're really overrating his resume at the time.
I don’t think they would have. So continuing on that train of thought, I want to further understand your view of everything. What do you think the reason was for Crawford choosing to continue with Top Rank? Do you think he was scared?

There are people who went on to prove they were better than Postol and Gamboa. But none of them were clear and away better than those two at the time that Crawford faced them.
 
For quite a while his best win was Viktor Postol. Seriously. It wasn't until he demolished Spence that the boxing community and regs around here started giving him more credit. He had the accomplishments on paper but no signature wins prior. He stayed with Top Rank for years at welterweight knowing that the best guys were over at PBC. Had he signed with PBC back then those fights you named probably would've happened (with the exception of Pac). At least some of them anyway.

BTW Postol was pretty good back then and Bud beat him the way he handled Ginger, moving left and right to prevent them from planting their feet, or unloading first when they stepped in range, all without missing any counter opportunities. It was the Postol fight that convinced me that Bud had a shot.
 
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I don’t think they would have. So continuing on that train of thought, I want to further understand your view of everything. What do you think the reason was for Crawford choosing to continue with Top Rank? Do you think he was scared?

There are people who went on to prove they were better than Postol and Gamboa. But none of them were clear and away better than those two at the time that Crawford faced them.
Who knows why he stayed with Top Rank? I'm not going to speculate. Whatever the reason it slowed his career to a halt and wasted many of his prime years. It really rubbed fans wrong, especially around here, which is why so many of them wanted to see him lose to Spence.

I never rated his win over Gamboa that highly at the time for a couple reasons. The guy was a natural featherweight that fought Crawford at lightweight. Did you see the size difference between them? He dwarfed Gamboa in the ring. Secondly, Gamboa has always looked quite vulnerable (chinny). He was getting dropped left and right even back then. In his career he's hit the canvas a total of 18 times which has to be a modern record. I haven't seen a top fighter knocked down that many times since Floyd Patterson.
 
Who knows why he stayed with Top Rank? I'm not going to speculate. Whatever the reason it slowed his career to a halt and wasted many of his prime years. It really rubbed fans wrong, especially around here, which is why so many of them wanted to see him lose to Spence.

I never rated his win over Gamboa that highly at the time for a couple reasons. The guy was a natural featherweight that fought Crawford at lightweight. Did you see the size difference between them? He dwarfed Gamboa in the ring. Secondly, Gamboa has always looked quite vulnerable (chinny). He was getting dropped left and right even back then. In his career he's hit the canvas a total of 18 times which has to be a modern record. I haven't seen a top fighter knocked down that many times since Floyd Patterson.
He was naturally smaller, but most considered him to be the superior fighter at the time. The odds were close to even if I remember correctly. Crawford might have been slightly favored due to how inactive Gamboa was and the fact that it was in Crawfords hometown so the judging would be biased. Having Crawford is one thing, but no one expected Crawford to knock him out or turn out to be as good as of a fighter as he has now.

My point is that Gamboa’s career didn’t pan out as expected. But at the time, he was a way more highly touted prospect than Crawford was. People look at the losses to Tank, Haney, Pitbull and act like people viewed Gamboa that way back then.
 
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Canelo really had no ideas when he couldn't pin or corner Bud. I thought it was an epic performance by Crawford, and really showed how 1 dimensional Canelo can be when his one, albeit excellent, dimension isn't working.
 
He was naturally smaller, but most considered him to be the superior fighter at the time. The odds were close to even if I remember correctly. Crawford might have been slightly favored due to how inactive Gamboa was and the fact that it was in Crawfords hometown so the judging would be biased. Having Crawford is one thing, but no one expected Crawford to knock him out or turn out to be as good as of a fighter as he has now.

My point is that Gamboa’a career didn’t pan out as expected. But at the time, he was a way more highly touted prospect than Crawford was. People look at the losses to Tank, Haney, Pitbull and act like people viewed Gamboa that way back then.
According to the odds history Crawford was indeed a slight favorite. Gamboa only had a single fight in the lightweight division at the time and Crawford was already the WBO champ. Sure, Gamboa was highly touted back then because he's Cuban and was an Olympic champion. As you said he didn't live up to the hype. Not that it really matters because he was always in Rigondeaux's shadow.
 
i don't think canelo looked particularly bad, but crawford did look good. i also think neither of them looked like they were at their finest.

that said, crawford fought him exactly as i thought he would, and it worked really well. moved enough to not let him get any big shots off, put him off balance with his feints, planted his feet here and there to punish him in exchanges. a beautiful display of classic boxing.

as for the size, crawford's always had a very big frame. moving up in weight is different when you're built like that, and he's honestly better suited to put on muscle than canelo.
 
These boxing analysts say Terence Crawford used Ilia Topuria's music.



I checked, it seemed to be the same song alright.
 
Wow! Yes! That was an amazing fight! Canelo did well. Terence Crawford put on an incredible performance! Great win for Terence Crawford and congratulations to him on becoming the undisputed super middleweight champion of the world! He's definitely an all-time great!
 
Congrats to Bud.
Happy for him & Omaha, hope Canelo retires on a another big win.
Both Class champions & while it wasn't a war, was better than Pac/Floyd or Oscar/Tito.
Canelo looked good enough, he wasn't prime. In their matchup, Bud is better. Way it works.
I think prime Floyd vs Bud... at 147. I lean Bud. Jus sayin.
Good fight for boxing fans.
Good times, hope more to come.
 
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According to the odds history Crawford was indeed a slight favorite. Gamboa only had a single fight in the lightweight division at the time and Crawford was already the WBO champ. Sure, Gamboa was highly touted back then because he's Cuban and was an Olympic champion. As you said he didn't live up to the hype. Not that it really matters because he was always in Rigondeaux's shadow.
Eh, I’m not too sure about the Rigondeaux’s shadow part. Rigondeaux was way more under appreciated back then. People responded way better to Gamboa’s style and that got him way more attention than Rigondeaux. The same year that Gamboa fought Crawford, Rigondeaux fought someone who was more popular than them both in Nonito Donaire. And I think the big win there for Rigo versus the big loss against Bud for Gamboa is what eventually made Rigondeaux more popular and viewed as a superior fighter. But before that, it was definitely Gamboa who had more of a spotlight on him.

Donaire vs Rigo and Bud vs Gamboa were probably the two best fights of 2014 now that I think about it.

Overall though, my point is that the people who say Crawford has a weak resume are viewing it from a 2025 lense and not necessarily a 2014 or 2012 lense. The landscape of boxing has changed tremendously since Crawford won those fights, but that shouldn’t change the significance of those wins for that specific time period.

Even though Mayweather and TMT mismanaged his career, Gamboa was still seen as an undefeated prodigy at the time that Crawford beat him.
 
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Eh, I’m not too sure about the Rigondeaux’s shadow part. Rigondeaux was way more under appreciated back then. People responded way better to Gamboa’s style and that got him way more attention than Rigondeaux. The same year that Gamboa fought Crawford, Rigondeaux fought someone who was more popular than them both in Nonito Donaire. And I think the big win there for Rigo versus the big loss against Bud for Gamboa is what eventually made Rigondeaux more popular and viewed as a superior fighter. But before that, it was definitely Gamboa who had more of a spotlight on him.


Overall though, my point is that the people who say Crawford has a weak resume are viewing it from a 2025 lense and not necessarily a 2014 or 2012 lense. The landscape of boxing has changed tremendously since Crawford won those fights, but that shouldn’t change the significance of those wins for that specific time.
Rigondeaux is one of the greatest boxers to ever defect from the Cuban amateur system. His style was never appreciated by the masses, even by many hardcores, but his actual skills (particularly his defense & counterpunching) were appreciated. Gamboa wasn't regarded as the kind of talent that he was. It's no different than Usyk being in Loma's shadow for so many years. The difference is that Usyk eventually came out of it.

As for Crawford, he's done some great stuff over the last few years. He's been challenging himself more and taking bigger risks than he did in the past.
 
Rigondeaux is one of the greatest boxers to ever defect from the Cuban amateur system. His style was never appreciated by the masses, even by many hardcores, but his actual skills (particularly his defense & counterpunching) were appreciated. Gamboa wasn't regarded as the kind of talent that he was. It's no different than Usyk being in Loma's shadow for so many years. The difference is that Usyk eventually came out of it.

As for Crawford, he's done some great stuff over the last few years. He's been challenging himself more and taking bigger risks than he did in the past.
Yeah I’m not saying what the reality is. We learned the reality as years went by. I’m saying what the perception was at the time. Rigondeaux eventually did come out of Gamboa’s shadow. But it took Gamboa losing a really big fight to Crawford and Rigo winning a really big fight against Donaire for that to happen. Before that, people weren’t checking for Rigo like they were Gamboa.
 
Yeah I’m not saying what the reality is. We learned the reality as years went by. I’m saying what the perception was at the time. Rigondeaux eventually did come out of Gamboa’s shadow. But it took Gamboa losing a really big fight to Crawford and Rigo winning a really big fight against Donaire for that to happen. Before that, people weren’t checking for Rigo like they were Gamboa.
I remember when both turned pro and Rigo's debut was more anticipated by the boxing community. That's to be expected whenever a 2x Olympic gold medalist joins the professional ranks. He used to spar Gamboa and would handle him. The guy was a scary talent back then. Freddie Roach didn't even want Pac sparring him. He said that he was worried about him walking into a big shot. Rigo threw some of the nastiest counters you'll ever see. Lightning left hands with wicked intentions written all over them.
 
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