Official Judo Thread VIII

The Karate Man said:
Sorry for my absence guys, I've had my hands full lately.

I got a Ne Waza question for y'all.

Kami Shiho Gatame, the top four corner hold... It's kinda like a pseudo North-South / 69 position. Are there any good submissions from this pin? I know of one lapel choke called the papercut, but that's about it.
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Personally, I much prefer Kuzure Kami Shiho Gatame. You can really drive all of your weight into Uke much more effectively
 
Hellcat93 said:
Signed up for Judo last night, it was pretty fun. Started with a pretty standard warm up, then started drilling some throws and such. Got to work one on one with the instructor, which was awesome because I got a lot of technical advice.

He kind of apologized as the stuff was a bit advanced for a first timer. First we worked a sacrafice throw (sumi gashi or something) if the opponent is in a lefty stance. Then we did another drill that's too complicated for me to explain.

Next we got out crash mats and everyone was working throws. I "learned" O soto gari i believe. It was where you bring your leg behind theirs, reap and throw them down. Was also shown a few variations and different circumstances for the throw.

Last drill was just drilling tai oshi.

Next was randori. The coach had me watch the first round. Next he paired me up with a young student, who wasn't very good, but hey neither am I. Next he paired me with another young student(older than the previous) who was a purple belt. Told me to go hard with him when it got to the ground(he knew I was a bjj blue). Kid went after me pretty hard, which was fine by me. Stayed calm, it went to the ground, got him in a bow and arrow. I'm not bragging, just explaining lol. Think this pissed the kid off, because he started going harder, and hit me with a real nice throw, fell flat on my back. Ippon. Next it went to the ground again, arm barred him. Went to the ground again, basic collar choke from the back, don't even know what its called lol. Each time kid got more pissed and went harder and at one point was just straight up kicking my leg, not even really working for the footsweep. I didn't care, I could understand his frustration, and like I said he was young.

I want to make it clear, i wasn't trying to crush this kid on the ground, just worked my game.

Next went with a blue close to my age I believe and right away he told me to loosen up, a lot. So I did. He wasn't doing much, just letting me work. I tried some stuff, but couldn't do anything. Was cool to see how clueless I really was.

Sorry for the long post, just excited to start learning Judo!
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I don't understand this dojo's approach. Randori on the first day? Against other newbies? What the hell is accomplished by that other than frustration and high injury potential?
 
Joe Dwarf said:
I don't understand this dojo's approach. Randori on the first day? Against other newbies? What the hell is accomplished by that other than frustration and high injury potential?
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It must be funny as fuck to watch! :D
 
The Karate Man said:
Sorry for my absence guys, I've had my hands full lately.

I got a Ne Waza question for y'all.

Kami Shiho Gatame, the top four corner hold... It's kinda like a pseudo North-South / 69 position. Are there any good submissions from this pin? I know of one lapel choke called the papercut, but that's about it.
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Paper cutter choke from kami shiho gatame is money. One of my go-to chokes, really. There are a couple arm triangle options from there. Can catch a kimura.
 
does anybody have a move BUT the papercutter or kimuras from kuzure? i spend more time here than any other position at BJJ.

once i've got the over/under, i use the overhook to feed the gi from the side i'm not trapping under that shoulder and to the hand of the underhook. i basically get double-unders with this one grip, which leaves my overhook hand free to hunt for the papercutter.

i've also changed how i did papercutter - instead of just thumb-in and driving my elbow down, i get my thumb as close to my other hand as possible (cross-collar choke style) and also pull up with the underhook and turn onto that hip, almost like a clock choke finish.
 
RJ Green said:
does anybody have a move BUT the papercutter or kimuras from kuzure? i spend more time here than any other position at BJJ.

once i've got the over/under, i use the overhook to feed the gi from the side i'm not trapping under that shoulder and to the hand of the underhook. i basically get double-unders with this one grip, which leaves my overhook hand free to hunt for the papercutter.

i've also changed how i did papercutter - instead of just thumb-in and driving my elbow down, i get my thumb as close to my other hand as possible (cross-collar choke style) and also pull up with the underhook and turn onto that hip, almost like a clock choke finish.
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Yeah, I use two others:





The second I only use if the papercutter is being well defended. You can also feed the near arm between your legs to step over and triangle in place, which makes it very easy to attack the arm locks.
 
Racist trolling comments. He was constantly on thin ice, sadly.

I myself pretty much wept at the ban, but then again my ban hammer is light, and my yoke is easy.

For Einarr ... you will always be an Icelandic Deity to me.

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RJ Green said:
does anybody have a move BUT the papercutter or kimuras from kuzure? i spend more time here than any other position at BJJ.

once i've got the over/under, i use the overhook to feed the gi from the side i'm not trapping under that shoulder and to the hand of the underhook. i basically get double-unders with this one grip, which leaves my overhook hand free to hunt for the papercutter.

i've also changed how i did papercutter - instead of just thumb-in and driving my elbow down, i get my thumb as close to my other hand as possible (cross-collar choke style) and also pull up with the underhook and turn onto that hip, almost like a clock choke finish.
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Not me. I end up transitioning out if I'm trying to catch a sub.
 
Zankou said:
Racist trolling comments. He was constantly on thin ice, sadly.

I myself pretty much wept at the ban, but then again my ban hammer is light, and my yoke is easy.

For Einarr ... you will always be an Icelandic Deity to me.

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Yeah, I figured as much. That and the misogyny. But I found him frequently amusing. He will be missed. Tonight, I osoto everyone in his memory.
 
Einarr was who he was and was a good poster; he just didn't have a filter.

Rip in peace.











Or maybe we'll get a baby white belt who starts osotoing the shit out of people in f12.
 
Going to miss Einarr. I thought he contributed a hell of a lot when he was on point. When he was being an ass, he was usually an entertaining one, and he had the knowledge to back up his mouth.

I'd honestly rather a board full of trollish Einarrs than a board full of polite non-entities.

Next O Soto Gari's for you, dude.
 
but...ZANKY....where else will are we supposed find a misogynistic lutefisk-eatin socialist polemic with an osotogari fetish?

i love me some osotogari, but i also respect bitches and love steak. I CAN'T DO IT ALL ALONE!
 
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