Elections NYC mayoral race

[Fedor>Cain]

Not a surprise

OMG, how will he ever be replaced

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

My perspective is that there is a tiny percentage of the already tiny percentage of cases that escalate to violence in which it is the failure of the officer to de-escalate the situation.

If in 99.77% of stops it doesn’t escalate, that’s a pretty good track record. It shows cops aren’t out there looking to bust heads.

There will always be a percentage of situations where violence is necessary. I can stomach .33%.

Obviously, there are bad apples, and they should be rooted out and punished. Obviously we need better training.

Sending in resource officers instead of actual officers, while it may have its place in situations like domestic violence, is not going to reduce the number to zero.

"i can stomach 1 in 300 people being killed by cops" is actually demonic

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Well, that speech was certainly something -- quoting an Indian socialist after winning a US election.

 

[Scerpi]

The Soros' are known to fund the woke plague. Socialists cry about capitalism and yet vote for a guy backed by a billionaire - what a convenient serfdom agreement.

And this happens before Mamdani got elected. Expect this insanity to get worse.

Soros DA's and Judge's have pushed the catch & release system that plagues blue cities.

And Mamdami has said he doesn't believing in jailing criminals.



His take that making public transportation free will reduce violent crime on buses and subways... lol what?

I hope he actually succeeds in pulling these policies off. It'll be entertaining to say the least

 

[nostradumbass]

Why does any of this is a concern to you as you guys don't live in New York City or otherwise? I at least live two state over and have relatives who live in New York. That being said he wants to raise taxes to match New Jersey and transfer the difference to
make busses free and subways affordable. Then tackle affordable housing and food deserts. Many of these things are already done in right wing states like Arizona such as free daycare and affordable busing.

Oh you love mandates talk he has an actual mandate 50.4.

I've already said plenty of times I'm glad he won and would like to be the example in a place I don't live for voters to see for when more DSA candidates try to run for national office.

NYC already has significantly higher taxes than NJ, so for him to "match NJ", he would have to get rid of the city tax entirely, not raise it more.

His plan wasn't "tackling food deserts" because there are none. NYC is only 300 sq miles and has 16,000 grocery stores. His silly plan was because he claimed that existing grocery stores that are running on like a 1.5-2% margin are too expensive. This wouldn't solve "food deserts", it creates them because you undercut and run off existing grocery stores to operate the city ones at a huge loss, then when you find out how much inventory grocery stores need to keep any kind of variety on anything with an expiration date, the shelves become empty and there are no other alternatives left. And a not insignificant point is that the city then loses the tax revenue from the existing stores and replaces them with ones that not only provide no tax revenue, but are a pretty huge expense to taxpayers.

And you don't solve "housing affordability" by choking off the housing supply even further, that's what got them into this mess in the first place. You'd do it by incentivizing more building and opening the existing tens of thousands of apartments that are vacant and kept off the market because it's to expensive to make repairs and rent them out.

There's a reason he was voted in overwhelmingly by 18-29 year old girls who also get duped by tarot card readings.

 

[PEB]

Funny thing software developers and hardware engineers complained about the costs of launching a startup in New York. Many want improved transportations such as busing and rail lower housing costs. These are the job creators.

 

[nostradumbass]

"i can stomach 1 in 300 people being killed by cops" is actually demonic

And also nothing even remotely close to what he said. Who the fuck said anything about "killed"? That is the percentage of police interactions that escalate to violence because of the perp, not the number of deaths, and the denominator isn't the population. The number of deaths during arrests in the entire state of NY last was 7 in a population of 20 million, and cops killed on duty was 17, and assaults on police officers was 86,000.

If you were to find out that the violent crime rate in NYC was more than double that at 1 in 150, would you consider yourself "demonic" for being able to "stomach" that, or do you think police should crack down until that number is 0?

To sum up, a resident of NYC has a 1 in 2,400 chance of a violent interaction with police, all of which they would have to cause themselves, and a 1 in 150 chance of a violent interaction with a criminal resident that requires no cause whatsoever.

 

[Richmma80]

Mamdani will be the next US President

 

[PEB]

Mamdani will be the next US President

He cannot be he is not born in the US he could run for Senate.

 

[nhbbear]

This is how it is in Canada. No matter what, an officer in an unmarked vehicle goes to the call with a social worker. Often with a paramedic as well. From there they bring in whoever is needed once the situation has calmed down. But if the situation is tense , then yeah your getting multiple cops that aren't part of the social nav team.

Yeah, I teach my students about the great need to have mental health experts and social workers work closely with police,

 

[nhbbear]

Sounding like a Bernie bro

Well, it’s not like I agree on him on much of anything else-just share a hatred for disgustingly wealthy people

 

[Blayt7hh]

Well, it’s not like I agree on him on much of anything else-just share a hatred for disgustingly wealthy people

No big money in politics? No more lobbyists or superpacs?

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

And also nothing even remotely close to what he said. Who the fuck said anything about "killed"? That is the percentage of police interactions that escalate to violence because of the perp, not the number of deaths, and the denominator isn't the population. The number of deaths during arrests in the entire state of NY last was 7 in a population of 20 million, and cops killed on duty was 17, and assaults on police officers was 86,000.

If you were to find out that the violent crime rate in NYC was more than double that at 1 in 150, would you consider yourself "demonic" for being able to "stomach" that, or do you think police should crack down until that number is 0?

To sum up, a resident of NYC has a 1 in 2,400 chance of a violent interaction with police, all of which they would have to cause themselves, and a 1 in 150 chance of a violent interaction with a criminal resident that requires no cause whatsoever.

very funny to pretend there wasn't an entire conversation of context before the post i responded to.

also, yes i think it's reasonable to expect cops to be better than 50% less likely to commit violence on me than a literal violent criminal. like fucking lol @ you thinking that's an argument of any kind.

 

[fedoriswar37]

I am on the other side of Toronto.. We sometime don't even get anyone showing up

Yeah . Policing has been really tough to find recruits. The entire profession has been demonized for a while now. Our public school boards wont even let officers set foot on property as its said to make some students uncomfortable.

 

[fedoriswar37]

Yeah, I teach my students about the great need to have mental health experts and social workers work closely with police,

Correct. They also had housing workers, indigenous workers, mental health workers, paramedics, pyscologists and few more i cant remember on the team. But the key to all of it was police officers, because without safety the rest of these people can't do their jobs

 

[nostradumbass]

very funny to pretend there wasn't an entire conversation of context before the post i responded to.

also, yes i think it's reasonable to expect cops to be better than 50% less likely to commit violence on me than a literal violent criminal. like fucking lol @ you thinking that's an argument of any kind.

Are you retarded? You think 1 in 2,400 is "50% less than" 1 in 150?

Why would people who by your own admission are literal violent criminals have a huge violent interaction rate with everybody else, but 0 with cops? Are you among the denominator in the first claim and find yourself having frequent police interactions? Would explain your attitude on most things.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

I'll be in NY next summer, I wonder if anything will be visible regarding this new mayor. Last time I was there I was surprised how many very clearly mentally ill people were around at night.

 

[The_Renaissance]

Yeah . Policing has been really tough to find recruits. The entire profession has been demonized for a while now. Our public school boards wont even let officers set foot on property as its said to make some students uncomfortable.

Same in the UK. The absolute state of some cops you see nowadays here. My small handful of cop friends agree. Its terrible. There's a fat, soft nobody from school currently in the same department as a mate. A known liability to the actually capable cops. Nobody knows how it was possible he could've passed actual testing. An extremely embarrassing video involving him came out a couple years ago on social media. Was humiliating to watch.

 

[PEB]

I will leave this here to trigger MAGA lol.

 

[Xanzito]

Not a surprise

There's a nice replacement just waiting for the call