Ngannou s striking is trash

UFCIsNOTRigged said:
Agreed, but Gane took Ngannou down when the fight was on the line in the fifth round and had him beat dead to rights. Had Gane not dropped back for the submission attempt he would have been able to L&P his way to victory as Ngannou did.

That doesn't mitigate Ngannou's win in any way, he was down two rounds to nothing, and won the final three rounds; but some Ngannou fans do not want to admit their guy was pieced up on the feet and lost the wrestling exchange when the fight was on the line.
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Ngannou has zero guard/bjj and yeah, Gane could have won if he didn’t sit back for the heel hook, but maybe he went for the sub because he knew he didn’t have the experience or gas tank to keep grappling, especially while down on points.

With Francis, he took Gane down because it’s what you do against an inexperienced fighter. Gane wasn’t piecing up Francis, he technically landed some decent kicks but nothing, nothing that wobbled or truly hurt the champ, Gane’s striking wasn’t lethal at all, and he was supposed to be the polished striker with better striking skills. It just didn’t show.
 
Coconutwater said:
Ngannou has zero guard/bjj and yeah, Gane could have won if he didn’t sit back for the heel hook, but maybe he went for the sub because he knew he didn’t have the experience or gas tank to keep grappling, especially while down on points.

With Francis, he took Gane down because it’s what you do against an inexperienced fighter. Gane wasn’t piecing up Francis, he technically landed some decent kicks but nothing, nothing that wobbled or truly hurt the champ, Gane’s striking wasn’t lethal at all, and he was supposed to be the polished striker with better striking skills. It just didn’t show.
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So Francis did not ultimately control his fate, it was a mistake by Gane in the waning minutes of the fight in the fifth round that costed him the fight.

Agreed.
 
UFCIsNOTRigged said:
So Francis did not ultimately control his fate, it was a mistake by Gane in the waning minutes of the fight in the fifth round that costed him the fight.

Agreed.
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Yeah, like Gane didn’t control his fate by not knocking out Francis in the first two rounds, the one who is the “inferior” striker who gasses more easily.
 
SlomiGa said:
He won 3 rounds. What's the problem here? If Gane was superior he would've taken the fight.
Also, he dominated the takedown/grappling.
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Nobody dominated anything that grappling was absolutely embarrassing from both guys. Dude on top no idea what he’s doing dude on bottom no idea what he’s doing. It was a miserable display of grappling top to bottom
 
The stipe fight and Gane fight didn’t prove that TS. But it prove: Francis has a chin and these so called better strikers can’t finish him even if he’s gassed or already in a coma
 
DjolexMTL said:
Francis with healthy knees sends Gane to Bolivian
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All I know is Ciryl Gane was so intimidating to Francis Ngannou, the self proclaimed hardest hitter in the world, on the feet that he turned him into a wrestler.

Those are facts.

Gane is HW champion within a year and a half.
 
UFCIsNOTRigged said:
All I know is Ciryl Gane was so intimidating to Francis Ngannou, the self proclaimed hardest hitter in the world, on the feet that he turned him into a wrestler.

Those are facts.

Gane is HW champion within a year and a half.
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I agree, he made Francis resort to wrestling. However, he said his fucked up knees prevented him from striking well. If we're honest, his movement did seem really compromised, he was completely flat footed.

I can't attest if the injury is real, but if it is, it leads me to think he takes Gane's head off in a rematch.

And yeah, if Francis leaves the division, I see Cyril reigning for a long time
 
UFCIsNOTRigged said:
All I know is Ciryl Gane was so intimidating to Francis Ngannou, the self proclaimed hardest hitter in the world, on the feet that he turned him into a wrestler.

Those are facts.

Gane is HW champion within a year and a half.
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An injured Francis was getting out pointed by a pillow fisted striker who offered nothing so Francis, being obviously much more well rounded than most give him credit for, showed good fight IQ and adapted. That’s why he’s still the champion. He’s evolved to be more than just a terrifying power puncher. It’s funny how far some of you will go to refuse him any credit. He won 3 rounds in a championship fight against a guy all of you were lining up to stroke off.

Gane won’t sniff that belt if Francis is still around and I’d figure anyone who can wrestle in the division would give him trouble.

Blaydes could be a bad matchup for Gane. It’s Francis’ division if he sticks around.
 
SouthpawSouthernFist said:
Um all Gane did was slap him on the leg with his foot, and maybe one good jab.
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So why did Ngannou turn into a wrestler? Because of some foot slaps and a jab?

Nothing wrong with Ngannou using his TDs to win the fight, but he clearly knew he had no shot standing
 
613 said:
So why did Ngannou turn into a wrestler? Because of some foot slaps and a jab?

Nothing wrong with Ngannou using his TDs to win the fight, but he clearly knew he had no shot standing
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Because he had no explosion with his knee
 
alex21cms said:
only works on flat footed sloppy old heavys

prime Stipe and Now Gane both made him look stupid on the feet
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u kno he had torn acl mcl pcl almost had pull out fight dr said no fight he could barely move still domnate game punk ass
 
Damn TS got banned.

I guess his hatred for Francis came back and bit him.
 
I like reading these posts about how much better Gane was and the list of excuses for him losing.
 
ThaiSexPills said:
An injured Francis was getting out pointed by a pillow fisted striker who offered nothing so Francis, being obviously much more well rounded than most give him credit for, showed good fight IQ and adapted. That’s why he’s still the champion. He’s evolved to be more than just a terrifying power puncher. It’s funny how far some of you will go to refuse him any credit. He won 3 rounds in a championship fight against a guy all of you were lining up to stroke off.

Gane won’t sniff that belt if Francis is still around and I’d figure anyone who can wrestle in the division would give him trouble.

Blaydes could be a bad matchup for Gane. It’s Francis’ division if he sticks around.
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If Gane is so pillow fisted why did Francis not want to strike with him on the feet with him after dropping the first two rounds?

Also, Gane won more wrestling exchanges than Ngannou did, go rewatch the fight.

The commentary booth infantilizes Ngannou, despite him being a 6"5 265 pound worth class athlete, so when he takes Gane down and does absolutely no damage Rogan & DC freak out.
 
Jfreemandrums said:
Seriously

Gane stalled out the striking, and Ngannou stalled out the grappling. Neither guy wanted to engage, or couldn't due to the other guy neutralizing his opponent

At the highest level like this it's bound to happen
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Yea I like this take, they both tried to lame eachother with some neutralizing style. Francis' laming was more effective.
 
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