Ngannou is rumored to become an MMA free agent at some point this year, he should return to the UFC

CatchtheseHands said:
Tom also has a fucked knee. Jon has a fucked pec and fucked elbow. What's your point?
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Good point, maybe HWs need PEDs for healing. But my point is since Stipe/Ngannou, we haven't seen him move that well. He was a grappler basically his 2 MMA fights after. Against Fury he was worried about his knees and didn't really look great when he was advancing, he did his best work sitting back to counter. Ngannou has been very immobile for awhile now and no one really noticed.
 
Dana White already stated that ngannou will never be in the ufc again ever due to ngannou is a liar and the way he conducted himself when doing business. Once Dana says you banned = you’re banned
 
Tweak896 said:
Good point, maybe HWs need PEDs for healing. But my point is since Stipe/Ngannou, we haven't seen him move that well. He was a grappler basically his 2 MMA fights after. Against Fury he was worried about his knees and didn't really look great when he was advancing, he did his best work sitting back to counter. Ngannou has been very immobile for awhile now and no one really noticed.
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Well I mean his fight vs Gane was before his surgery and the fight vs Renan didn't stay standing long enough to tell us anything. Did Francis actually say he was worried about his knee's in the Fury fight? Cause if he didn't you're just making assumptions. Also he showed much greater mobility in his fight with AJ so I don't really but that he is very immobile like you're trying to claim here..
 
WOLVERINEKILLS said:
Dana used to trash Fedor and his managers yet negotiate with them to sign Fedor several times. It’s not impossible. If Jones were to fight Aspinall and win, a Jones vs Ngannou fight would still do big business for a final Jones fight under that scenario. A lot of “if” scenarios.
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Difference was Dana’s issues were with Fedora managers and not Fedor… in this case, Dana’s issues were with ngannou. Ngannou pretends to be this harmless saint who’s soft spoken etc but in reality he’s a snake. It’s been said by other people not just Dana
 
Dana White MO is if he can make a profit off someone regardless of their checkered past or difficult history together. He will do so, money all that Dana White cares about. He'll make a deal if it's worth the profit.

I won't be surprised if Ngannou comes back.
 
Ara tech said:
No-one can afford Ngannou with a boxing salary.

5 to 25 millions dollars per bout. No thanks. You could recruit an army of fifty prospects with very less money.
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The UFC has the money; where are the prospects?
 
CatchtheseHands said:
Well I mean his fight vs Gane was before his surgery and the fight vs Renan didn't stay standing long enough to tell us anything. Did Francis actually say he was worried about his knee's in the Fury fight? Cause if he didn't you're just making assumptions. Also he showed much greater mobility in his fight with AJ so I don't really but that he is very immobile like you're trying to claim here..
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Yeah it was in an interview where he mentioned the Fury match. I know he worked his ground game for Stipe rematch, but it's very bizarre how different he's been before and after the Gane fight. We can only speculate off 2 MMA fights and 2 boxing matches.

I liked Ngannou's style, just wish we had the guy pre 2021. I didn't see anything in the AJ match either, but he did try and initiate more than against Fury. He was never really limber in his movement, but fast for a guy his size.
 
IvanDrago2.0 said:
Dana White already stated that ngannou will never be in the ufc again ever due to ngannou is a liar and the way he conducted himself when doing business. Once Dana says you banned = you’re banned
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TKO would override Dana immediately if Ngannou really wanted to come back
 
flektarn said:
Only if fighters get health insurance and are allowed to box. Surely a man of principle wouldn't come back to the UFC and change nothing about the sport.
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Everyone’s got principles until they run out of money.
 
LOL at Ngannou talking about he was doing the right thing for the fighters.. got millions fighting a bum in PFL and going radio silent when the whole PFL roster is getting fucked in the ass by the organization.

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Söze Aldo said:
Yes, they are saying his contract included a termination date clause, meaning it will end at a specified date which may be coming up soon.

Love it or hate it, Ngannou really got the sweetest deal possible out of PFL.
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Francis is the luckiest fighter in mma history. Was a free agent at the exact time the Saudis were throwing stupid money at fights that tanked at the box office. Good for him
 
Tweak896 said:
Yeah it was in an interview where he mentioned the Fury match. I know he worked his ground game for Stipe rematch, but it's very bizarre how different he's been before and after the Gane fight. We can only speculate off 2 MMA fights and 2 boxing matches.

I liked Ngannou's style, just wish we had the guy pre 2021. I didn't see anything in the AJ match either, but he did try and initiate more than against Fury. He was never really limber in his movement, but fast for a guy his size.
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Yeah.. unfortunately all we can do is speculate..
 
Söze Aldo said:
If Dana didn't make so many of his decisions based on his emotional state. The smart thing to do would be to leverage Francis into the stalled Jones pay negotiations.

"Ok, you won't fight Aspinal for anything under 15 million, we'll just re-sign Francis, strip you and return his belt to unify with Tom"
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That's why Dana is Dana and you are in sherdog.

What do they get out of this ?

Jon is 38 and rich. Now it's a game of getting anything out of him. Any aditional Jones fight is a profit. Jones doesn't care. He can retire.
 
IvanDrago2.0 said:
Difference was Dana’s issues were with Fedora managers and not Fedor… in this case, Dana’s issues were with ngannou. Ngannou pretends to be this harmless saint who’s soft spoken etc but in reality he’s a snake. It’s been said by other people not just Dana
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Dana is definitely a bigger snake. I doubt Ngannou is business savvy enough to lead his own contractual business as a fighter, probably his managers orchestrating his career moves.
 
Hymen Crusher said:
It is but they can pay for them and there families. I said 10 million a year earlier what if its 20. Honestly who cares. Why should these guys families be on medi cal or whatever the fuck government insurance where they live. The idea that this employer just pockets 80 percent of the profits and can't even insure them. So we the taxpayer have to foot the bill too. If you think these lower paid guys aren't getting obamacare or whatever they are.
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You've also got a US centric view
What percentage of the roster is US based? What are the conditions for ex US. Does those people have govt coverage?
 
Trabaho said:
That's why Dana is Dana and you are in sherdog.

What do they get out of this ?

Jon is 38 and rich. Now it's a game of getting anything out of him. Any aditional Jones fight is a profit. Jones doesn't care. He can retire.
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That's basically my point. What does the UFC have at HW if Jones retires? Tom needs a dancing partner to sell a big fight after 2 years of blue balls now, if not Jones, Ngannou would be the only other name that would make a big fight for Tom.

Tom vs Blaydes 3 won't sell for shit.
 
davidlemonparty said:
You've also got a US centric view
What percentage of the roster is US based? What are the conditions for ex US. Does those people have govt coverage?
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Yeah maybe but there is only so much that can be done if they can't insure you stipend them. The nba is 30 percent foreign players they figure it out
 
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