Crime New Migrant Detention Facility "Alligator Alcatraz" opening next month in Florida Everglades

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Yeah. So easy.

Lets just do that.

We've had decades to do it. But whatever. And until we can do it we can just have an open border policy. Kamala needs a job, right?

"It's been bad and no has tried for a decade so why bother now! Now let me bring up Harris unprompted becausei have no personality outside of partisan beliefs"

Great point bud

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Operation costs, paying workers, upkeep, etc. $450 mil that could go towards shit that actually matters

Its a pointless publicity stunt. "Oooo prison with gators! That'll show them illegals"

How is it any different than all the facilities under Biden?

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

How is it any different than all the facilities under Biden?

Alcatraz was always a cash sink. Most of these places are to be fair. It's a waste to keep putting bandages on a problem instead of addressing the root

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Alcatraz was always a cash sink. Most of these places are to be fair. It's a waste to keep putting bandages on a problem instead of addressing the root

Was always a Cash sink? Was literally announced just recently, using funds already designated to house migrants

And Look at all these private prison companies making billions under biden

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-vowed-reform-immigration-detention-instead-private-prisons-benefited-2023-08-07/

More than 90% of the roughly 31,000 people being held by ICE on average in July were in private facilities, up from 80% at the end of the Trump administration, according to the ACLU analysis.
Under Biden, private prison company GEO Group (GEO.N), opens new tab saw its revenues from ICE contracts for detention centers and remote monitoring of immigrants jump to a record $1.05 billion in 2022, up nearly 40% from the previous year, corporate filings show.
CoreCivic, GEO's biggest competitor, also sustained high revenues from ICE during Biden's term, according to corporate filings.


These don’t look very fair

The bottom line is under Biden, these people were detained in similar, if not worse facilities, awaiting Biden admin to transfer them somewhere into the interior of the country.

Now they are being detained, awaiting the Trump admin to transfer them home. Simple as that

 

[LeonardoBjj]

First immigration detainees arrive at Florida center in the Everglades​

BY CURT ANDERSON AND KATE PAYNE
Updated 3:08 PM BRT, July 3, 2025
The first group of immigrants has arrived at a new detention center deep in the Florida Everglades that officials have dubbed “Alligator Alcatraz,” a spokesperson for Republican state Attorney General James Uthmeier told The Associated Press.

“People are there,” Press Secretary Jae Williams said, though he didn’t immediately provide further details on the number of detainees or when they arrived.

“Next stop: back to where they came from,” Uthmeier said on the X social media platform Wednesday. He’s been credited as the architect behind the Everglades proposal.

“Stood up in record time under @GovRonDeSantis ’ leadership & in coordination with @DHSgov & @ICEgov, Florida is proud to help facilitate @realDonaldTrump ’s mission to enforce immigration law,” the account for the Florida Division of Emergency Management posted to the social media site X on Thursday. Requests for additional information from the office of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis and FDEM, which is building the site, were not returned early Thursday afternoon.

The facility, at an airport used for training, will have an initial capacity of about 3,000 detainees, DeSantis said. The center was built in eight days and features more than 200 security cameras, 28,000-plus feet (8,500 meters) of barbed wire and 400 security personnel.

Immigrants who are arrested by Florida law enforcement officers under the federal government’s 287(g) program will be taken to the facility, according to an official in President Donald Trump’s administration. The program is led by Immigration and Customs Enforcement and allows police officers to interrogate immigrants in their custody and detain them for potential deportation.
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The facility is expected to be expanded in 500 bed increments until it has an estimated 5,000 beds by early July.

A group of Florida Democratic state lawmakers headed to the facility Thursday to conduct “an official legislative site visit,” citing concerns about conditions for detainees and the awarding of millions of dollars in state contracts for the construction.

“As lawmakers, we have both the legal right and moral responsibility to inspect this site, demand answers, and expose this abuse before it becomes the national blueprint,” the legislators said in a joint statement ahead of the visit.

Federal agencies signaled their opposition Thursday to a lawsuit brought by environmental groups seeking to halt operations at the detention center. Though Trump applauded the center during an official tour earlier this week, the filing on behalf of the Department of Homeland Security seemed to try to distance his administration from the facility, and said no federal money to date has been spent on it.*

“DHS has not implemented, authorized, directed, or funded Florida’s temporary detention center. Florida is constructing and operating the facility using state funds on state lands under state emergency authority and a preexisting general delegation of federal authority to implement immigration functions,” the U.S. filing says.

Human rights advocates and Native American tribes have also protested against the center, contending it is a threat to the fragile Everglades system, would be cruel to detainees because of heat and mosquitoes, and is on land the tribes consider sacred.

It’s also located at a place prone to frequent heavy rains, which caused some flooding in the tents Tuesday during a visit by President Donald Trump to mark its opening. State officials say the complex can withstand a Category 2 hurricane, which packs winds of between 96 and 110 mph (154 and 177 kph), and that contractors worked overnight to shore up areas where flooding occurred.

According to images shared with the AP, overnight Wednesday, workers put up new signs labeled “Alligator Alcatraz” along the sole highway leading to the site and outside the entrance of the airfield that has been known as the Dade-Collier Training and Transition Airport. State officials seized the county-owned land where the facility is located using emergency powers authorized by an executive order issued by the governor.*

 

[LeonardoBjj]

DeSantis and other state officials say locating the facility in the rugged and remote Florida Everglades is meant as a deterrent — and naming it after the notorious federal prison of Alcatraz, an island fortress known for its brutal conditions, is meant to send a message. It’s another sign of how the Trump administration and its allies are relying on scare tactics to try to persuade people in the country illegally to leave voluntarily.

State and federal officials have touted the plans on social media and conservative airwaves, sharing a meme of a compound ringed with barbed wire and “guarded” by alligators wearing hats labeled “ICE” for Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The Republican Party of Florida has taken to fundraising off the detention center, selling branded T-shirts and beer koozies emblazoned with the facility’s name.

https://apnews.com/article/alligato...nees-florida-56670910db4c88800d9df42ac3ce7f91

 

[Mr Holmes]

Or just fix the horribly ineffective immigration court system so that they get processed out/in much fast. That would drastically decrease the need to build wasteful facilities based in locations that were a cash sink when they were originally operating

I'm not sure fixing the courts (whatever that is supposed to mean) will some how lead to not needing anymore detention facilities, but okay.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

I'm not sure fixing the courts (whatever that is supposed to mean) will some how lead to not needing anymore detention facilities, but okay.

Actually part of this alligator Alcatraz initiative, is also deputizing national guard members are immigration judges, to speed up deportations.

Biden and the “bipartisan mass immigration bill” wanted more judges to speed up letting people into the country, now the opposite.

Didn’t even need that shit border bill to do it!

https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article309792865.html

President Donald Trump said Tuesday he would approve Florida’s plan to expedite deportations by having qualified National Guard members work as immigration judges.

Trump made the announcement during his visit to a new state-run immigration detention center in South Floridadubbed Alligator Alcatraz.

For months now, Gov. Ron DeSantis has sought the approval of the federal government to deputize Florida National Guard Judge Advocate General Corps officers to act as immigration judges.

 

[Mr Holmes]

Actually part of this alligator Alcatraz initiative, is also deputizing national guard members are immigration judges, to speed up deportations.

Biden and the “bipartisan mass immigration bill” wanted more judges to speed up letting people into the country, now the opposite.

Didn’t even need that shit border bill to do it!

https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article309792865.html

President Donald Trump said Tuesday he would approve Florida’s plan to expedite deportations by having qualified National Guard members work as immigration judges.

Trump made the announcement during his visit to a new state-run immigration detention center in South Floridadubbed Alligator Alcatraz.

For months now, Gov. Ron DeSantis has sought the approval of the federal government to deputize Florida National Guard Judge Advocate General Corps officers to act as immigration judges.

Expedited removals. Good.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

I'm not sure fixing the courts (whatever that is supposed to mean) will some how lead to not needing anymore detention facilities, but okay.

Expediting court procedure, simplifying process to obtain visas, expedite removals without obstructing their right to due process, etc.

If this process goes faster than there are less people sitting in detention for long periods of time, less illegal overstay in general, and more insensitive for people to do shitbthe proper way.

But if you'd rather keep the system the way it is and just make more space to lock people up, that's on you. I honestly don't have the energy to care any more

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Was always a Cash sink? Was literally announced just recently, using funds already designated to house migrants

You misread. When it was originally operating it inefficient and wasteful

Was always a Cash sink? Was literally announced just recently, using funds already designated to house migrants

And Look at all these private prison companies making billions under biden

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-vowed-reform-immigration-detention-instead-private-prisons-benefited-2023-08-07/

More than 90% of the roughly 31,000 people being held by ICE on average in July were in private facilities, up from 80% at the end of the Trump administration, according to the ACLU analysis.
Under Biden, private prison company GEO Group (GEO.N), opens new tab saw its revenues from ICE contracts for detention centers and remote monitoring of immigrants jump to a record $1.05 billion in 2022, up nearly 40% from the previous year, corporate filings show.
CoreCivic, GEO's biggest competitor, also sustained high revenues from ICE during Biden's term, according to corporate filings.


These don’t look very fair

The bottom line is under Biden, these people were detained in similar, if not worse facilities, awaiting Biden admin to transfer them somewhere into the interior of the country.

Now they are being detained, awaiting the Trump admin to transfer them home. Simple as that

Don't know why you're bringing up Biden as if I brought him up or supported anything he did but go off I guess

 

[Mr Holmes]

Expediting court procedure, simplifying process to obtain visas, expedite removals without obstructing their right to due process, etc.

If this process goes faster than there are less people sitting in detention for long periods of time, less illegal overstay in general, and more insensitive for people to do shitbthe proper way.

But if you'd rather keep the system the way it is and just make more space to lock people up, that's on you. I honestly don't have the energy to care any more

If they expedite removals then they will need facilities to the hold them for deportation.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

You misread. When it was originally operating it inefficient and wasteful


Don't know why you're bringing up Biden as if I brought him up or supported anything he did but go off I guess

To point out the obvious hypocrisy

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

If they expedite removals then they will need facilities to the hold them for deportation.

Yes, and? You will always need facilities. We have facilities. If less bodies are just taking up space for large periods of time then there will be more frequently available space in the facilities we have.

Additionally, speeding up immigration court proceedings will inherently help reduce visa over stays (far too many let their shit expire while waiting for court dates) and mean less need to detention.

You're never gonna remove the need for detention centers but just building more doesn't fix the immigration issue at it's core.

Forgive the lack of my usual multi paragraph point by point post. I'm not doing great at the moment as life has decided to be a bitch.

 

[Crazy Source]

So it's a tent city in the Everglades? Port-a-potties I'm guessing? What a fucking mess.

 

[Mr Holmes]

Yes, and? You will always need facilities. We have facilities.

Well, when 8 million new illegals come into the country you'll need to build new facilities.

 

[Belaya Smert]

Seems like a giant publicity stunt to distract and play to his base.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Seems like a giant publicity stunt to distract and play to his base.

It is more Desantis trying to get back into the fold by working with Trump. Trump welcomes it tho as he needs Allies.

But Trump just got tens of billions more for ICE and deportations. Everglades will be a prime hub for deportations via airplane

 

[Belaya Smert]

It is more Desantis trying to get back into the fold by working with Trump. Trump welcomes it tho as he needs Allies.

But Trump just got tens of billions more for ICE and deportations. Everglades will be a prime hub for deportations via airplane

Hide the Freedom loving Cubans. We need those guys.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Hide the Freedom loving Cubans. We need those guys.

I live in south FL and know a lot of Venezuelans and Cubans. The people I know are mostly on board with it. They seem to understand that it sucks to a degree, but is a boil that needs to be lanced.

Especially ones that have been here for decades, they are actually very for it. Like how the fuck do these people get all these benefits, housing, etc,