Wrestling NCAA Wrestling

ChickenBrother said:
We're in Georgia and only recently moved here. I never thought it was a particularly great state for wrestling, but some kids here take it SUPER seriously - although it's usually the dad that's forcing them to go overboard. A kid that beat my son at his first 8U wrestling tournament last year had defined quads and hamstrings and was practically built like a man.

Agree the girls that end up on the wrestling mat usually aren't the ballerinas, although I've seen some get forced by their dads too. But they rarely last more than a few weeks. Have also seen quite a few girls that split their time between wrestling and gymnastics (which they prefer), but their dads are making them emphasize wrestling. Depends on the kid and it's between them and their parents but I don't think you can force a kid to do something they absolutely hate and NOT make them burn out or otherwise grow up to hate the sport.
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If my memory serves I believe Georgia had a guy that did really really well at Fargo many years back. A multi time champ perhaps.
 
dsdoubled said:
If my memory serves I believe Georgia had a guy that did really really well at Fargo many years back. A multi time champ perhaps.
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All I know is I see some kids around here that are ridiculously dedicated. It's not the norm but some train hard 6 days/week from like age 4 with multiple private lessons during the week and their dads are making them compete every weekend in 2 or 3 brackets so they wrestle 8-12 matches in one day. 6 or 7 year olds cutting weight. These kids are either going to burn out and quit the sport or they're going to be pretty damn good. My son trains hard but I'm too much of a soy cuck dad to want or ask him to train like an f'ing pro athlete while he's still in elementary school.
 
ChickenBrother said:
All I know is I see some kids around here that are ridiculously dedicated. It's not the norm but some train hard 6 days/week from like age 4 with multiple private lessons during the week and their dads are making them compete every weekend in 2 or 3 brackets so they wrestle 8-12 matches in one day. 6 or 7 year olds cutting weight. These kids are either going to burn out and quit the sport or they're going to be pretty damn good. My son trains hard but I'm too much of a soy cuck dad to want or ask him to train like an f'ing pro athlete while he's still in elementary school.
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Naahhhh don't be silly (I know you're joking), youngsters shouldn't be training that hard. It's not necessary and probably counter-productive. Look at Cary Kolat. Sure he had an amazing career and probably should have 2-3 gold medals in his cache, but nobody trained harder than he did as a kid and he took quite a few big losses over the years.
 
dsdoubled said:
Naahhhh don't be silly (I know you're joking), youngsters shouldn't be training that hard. It's not necessary and probably counter-productive. Look at Cary Kolat. Sure he had an amazing career and probably should have 2-3 gold medals in his cache, but nobody trained harder than he did as a kid and he took quite a few big losses over the years.
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I'm kidding about the soy cuck dad part (although everything is relative), but sadly wish I was kidding on how hard some kids are training. One of the kids my son used to train with who beat him earlier this year (he used to split his time between two gyms but left to commit exclusively to the other gym) literally shows 97 tournament matches on FloWrestling in his first year competing when he would have been in 6U and that doesn't even include dual meets. That kid trains wrestling 6 days/week and when he and my son were both 7 at the start of last season, they were both wrestling at 53 lbs and both walked at that weight. But some fucking how at the state finals 5 months later (when my son was 56 lbs), that kid made weight and wrestled at 50 lbs. And talking to his dad, he said he had set up a steam curtain in the shower for his son to sweat out before weigh ins.
 
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ChickenBrother said:
I'm kidding about the soy cuck dad part (although everything is relative), but sadly wish I was kidding on how hard some kids are training. One of the kids my son used to train with who beat him earlier this year (he used to split his time between two gyms but left to commit exclusively to the other gym) literally shows 97 tournament matches on FloWrestling in his first year competing when he would have been in 6U and that doesn't even include dual meets. That kid trains wrestling 6 days/week and when he and my son were both 7 at the start of last season, they were both wrestling at 53 lbs and both walked at that weight. But some fucking how at the state finals 5 months later (when my son was 56 lbs), that kid made weight and wrestled at 50 lbs. And talking to his dad, he said he had set up a steam curtain in the shower for his son to sweat out before weigh ins.
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Wow. That, in my opinion, is absurd. Takes all the fun out of a great sport.

But on the other hand, wrestling definitely lends itself easily to the fanatical approach. I think bc there are literally no tools, just you, and bc there is always a higher level to strive for, you do get caught up in the whole grind of it all.
 
dsdoubled said:
Wow. That, in my opinion, is absurd. Takes all the fun out of a great sport.

But on the other hand, wrestling definitely lends itself easily to the fanatical approach. I think bc there are literally no tools, just you, and bc there is always a higher level to strive for, you do get caught up in the whole grind of it all.
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Kids in our state that are doing well all go to year round private wrestling gym(s). Parents will drive 45 minutes one way to ensure their kid gets mat time throughout the year. And of course, pay the gym fees.
 
Fluffernutter said:
Kids in our state that are doing well all go to year round private wrestling gym(s). Parents will drive 45 minutes one way to ensure their kid gets mat time throughout the year. And of course, pay the gym fees.
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+1

My son and I train at a private wrestling gym now and when we started there last year, I was kind of shocked how hard they push the kids compared to BJJ. It feels like what I remember my HS wrestling practices to be. This summer it's been 95 degrees in there and they're yelling at kids as young as 5, dropping everyone for pushups or making the whole class run sprints if one kid isn't paying attention. The coaches are great with positive reinforcement when the kids get it right, but they're pushing them HARD to get it right. And unlike BJJ which costs twice as much and is in a nice clean air-conditioned strip mall, the wrestling coaches are unapologetic about wrestling NOT being right for every kid. But if you can handle the training (and they're willing to work with every kid), you need to rise to the standard, not the other way around.

Right now my son is doing wrestling there 2 days/week and those are his hard training days. His 2 days of BJJ and the 1 day of Judo when we can make it are his easy days. Kids grinding hard 5-6 days/week year round in wrestling from such a young age are either going to burn out or grow up tough AF.

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We got quite a team for non-olympic weight worlds this year.
Arujau
Green
Burroughs
Taylor (if he goes to worlds)

Every one a world champ aside from Green who has a bronze and a silver.
 
What a bummer. We didn't put a single guy into the finals. A major bummer. Vitali and Taylor could still get bronze. Both got smoked. Vitali by another Japanese guy who's been on fire, and Taylor by a very much in-shape Sadulaev.
 
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What a bummer. We didn't put a single guy into the finals. A major bummer. Vitali and Taylor could still get bronze. Both got smoked. Vitali by another Japanese guy who's been on fire, and Taylor by a very much in-shape Sadulaev.
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I've always been impressed how athletic Sadulaev is with his garden gnome physique. But against Taylor he should have gotten called for passivity. He didn't shoot in even once - just wrestled the whole match defensively and stuffed Taylor's shots for go behinds.




OTOH looked like Burroughs wrestled too conservatively in the first period. He's a a tad slower than he used to be but turning it up in the last minute vs. Nokhodilarimi was too little, too late even though he almost pulled it off.

 
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Strictly a casual fan, but Anthony Robles's NCAA Championship was amazing and the movie is hitting Amazon Prime in January.

Sorry, if this has already been posted.



I rather pay for Amazon Prime to see this then Flo, but as I said, I am a casual fan.
 
Ono throwing Vito for 4 (with a head pinch) while up by 8. Not bad for a 20 year old

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How do you all feel about Gable Steveson's return to Minnesota's wrestling roster?

He won his first match back via tech in the first period



Match starts at 1:09:00
 
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Fluffernutter said:
How do you all feel about Gable Steveson's return to Minnesota's wrestling roster?

He won his first match back via tech in the first period



Match starts at 1:09:00
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Wrestlers that do well on the international circuit (nevermind, win the Olympics) and return to wrestle collegiate usually dominate. Gable is incredibly good and should be an undefeated national champ this year. Every season seems to bring a big upset or 2, and I have my eye on Kerkvliet and Hendrickson, but Gable is the favorite by a mile.
 
Austin DeSanto decided to give Greco a try and just took bronze at one of those tough Scandinavian Greco tournaments. He did great, scored a ton of points. It's always fun seeing guys switch styles. I guess we'll see if he continues on the circuit and if more guys follow suit.
 
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