Nate Diaz and Jake Paul agreed to fight in MMA for rematch in PFL

[Istryker]

Jake Paul simps get the rope

I like the pressure he puts on Dana but some of y’all embarrassing

 

[camygod]

It's weird to me that non Ironically people can't see through Jake Paul and his bullshit ye is like a sociopathic yank jock Bully from some 80s film
Sad that anyone actually supports him
Oh well

 

[Jinx_AA]

one weight class
JP fights at 185
ND fights at 170

nates a fat 170 …. Only time
He’s ever tasted the top 10 was at lw

his 170 fights were Conor twice whos also a 155
Tony who’s also a 155

and Leon the only actual 170 fighter he fought

 

[CrimsonFan]

Nate was a great MMA fighter at 155lbs. But once he starts fighting guys who are legit 170.. he's just too small. Now make it 185 and his grappling skills become more or less useless because he is so out muscled.

So yeah I think Jake could beat him in an MMA fight. I mean he's got the money to pay someone to teach him how to stay out of danger. I actually don't think it would be as good of a fight as the boxing match. Jake would have to implement a game plan that involves lots of circling and avoiding clinching situations. Will likely suck

Of course Diaz likely could submit him or even hurt him on the feet with smaller gloves. One thing that I disagree with is that Diaz age has much of anything to do with it. He still looks like the same guy to me, hell I actually think he's been improving over the years. He's just been fighting bigger and better guys for whatever reason.

 

[wildchild88]

If he was,he wouldnt voluntarily do this. But dealing w adversity in boxing means he can cover up with those huge pillows. He wont have that safety net in MMA.

It's easier to quit in an mma fight imo.. but yeah it's much of a muchness..

 

[Guy LeDouche]

First of all Jake has a hard time boxing. Can’t even do three rounds without sucking air & Doesn’t like getting hit. When he’s in trouble he holds on to dear life and wait for a separation.
Too many uncontrollable variables in MMA for him.
I doubt he’d fight in a proper MMA fight with anyone without prior stipulations and agreements in place protecting him.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

No,

bad habits for mma. Slip ducking rolling sideways stance, no clinch, no bjj

That would matter if Nate kicked or presented a serious takedown threat.

Despite being old, undersized and fighting someone with years of experience on him, he cruised through without much fuss.

 

[Dana's Conscience]

Nate almost knocked out the WW champion not that long ago

 

[ragreynolds]

Nate was doing his best work in the clinch in their boxing match. If there wasn't a referee separating them every time they clinched, Nate would have dominated Jake. MMA fight likely sees Nate take some punches as he gets in close, then Nate pummels Jake in the clinch against the cage if he can't get him down. Jake will tire after clinch fighting for a round or two, then Nate will get the sub.

 

[CasualBot]

neither guy is in the ufc.



why is this in ufc discussion?

 

[JudoJabs]

Could you imagine the shit storm if Jake beat Nate in MMA?

It is insane how we got here, but anyone that doesn’t see it as possible at this point is lying to themselves or not looking at it holistically. He has the attributes and is beginning as young as many guys who ended up being successful in MMA.

It really will make people question the quality of MMA as a whole, which sadly has already started.

 

[Fluffernutter]

PFL has USADA now, I wonder if there will be an exception made for Jake

Their boxing match was under wada

 

[Fluffernutter]

I assumed part of the original deal was one boxing match and one MMA match.

This news isn't that shocking

 

[rjmbrd]

Nate is hilariously undersized, LITERALLY NEVER BOXED IN HIS LIFE, nearing 40 years old, and went 10 rounds with Jake.

That is Jake's specialty, he's been fighting in professional boxing matches for years.

Despite all that you can only show one moment in TEN ROUNDS where Nate was in any trouble, and he popped back up and continued the round like nothing happened.

In MMA, you can't fake knowing BJJ defense. You can either swim or you can't.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Nate is hilariously undersized, LITERALLY NEVER BOXED IN HIS LIFE, nearing 40 years old, and went 10 rounds with Jake.

That is Jake's specialty, he's been fighting in professional boxing matches for years.

Despite all that you can only show one moment in TEN ROUNDS where Nate was in any trouble, and he popped back up and continued the round like nothing happened.

In MMA, you can't fake knowing BJJ defense. You can either swim or you can't.

Havent the Diaz bros been constantly cited as some of the best boxers ever in MMA? its Nates go to in MMA so saying he isnt experienced compared to a guy who started boxing in like 2017/18 seems like a cop out.

Nate got outlanded in 8 of those 10 rounds, and faceplanted hard. And that, along with his boxing heavy approach in MMA, plus like you said yourself him being old and undersized, is exactly why Jake probably feels like he has a good shot at winning an MMA fight too. I dislike Jake but he probably cracks harder than anyone Nate has ever fought, he most likely has above average MW MMA power. If he lands like that in 4oz gloves and with no counts Nate could be in a lot of trouble.

 

[SchranzForever]

Even before Jake Paul dominated Diaz for nearly 10 rounds in boxing... Jake Paul was offering to face Diaz in MMA. Diaz was hesitant of accepting the MMA offer, however, after he lost in dominating fashion to Jake Paul... Jake Paul offered it again and Nate accepted.



The bout is to take place in the PFL as Jake is responsible for the PFL super fight league.

EDIT: Adding a poll; who wins in MMA between Paul and Diaz?

Paul's side: Younger, faster, stronger, has a good wrestling background, and showed far superior boxing to Nate Diaz. He probably has been training MMA for a while now too (at least a few years).

Diaz's side: Far more experienced, fought way higher level stars in MMA, and even a washed Diaz can tap out Jake Paul.

WHO WINS?!

Diaz by Gogoplata hopefully. But in seriousness I can't see a way he doesn't win considering his ground game is absolutely light years ahead of what JP can bring or could realistically train for before the fight

 

[PeacePipe]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but slip ducking and rolling is only bad against kicks / knees.. same with sideway stance.

Paul having no bjj is a big one, but Diaz's takedowns are opposite of elite.

Won't be easy for Paul and he could lose, but it's definitely very winnable for him.

Everything is different trust me I do Muay Thai classes sometimes also haha

distance timing combinations, rolling out after a combo will get timed easy

even mayweather would struggle against the inside work of Muay Thai

Correct me if I'm wrong, but slip ducking and rolling is only bad against kicks / knees.. same with sideway stance.

Paul having no bjj is a big one, but Diaz's takedowns are opposite of elite.

Won't be easy for Paul and he could lose, but it's definitely very winnable for him.

diaz has a great clinch and tieing up even in boxing is different, plus trips, sweeps etc

if boxing was close, Diaz will easily cruise in an mma fight

 

[rjmbrd]

Havent the Diaz bros been constantly cited as some of the best boxers ever in MMA? its Nates go to in MMA so saying he isnt experienced compared to a guy who started boxing in like 2017/18 seems like a cop out.

Nate is nearly 40 years old, use your head.

He's literally never had a pro boxing match in his entire life, is a career lightweight and looked like shit in his last MMA fight. If he was 28-30 years old and took a year to transition to boxing guys his size, sure he would probably look pretty good despite lack of pro fights.

I dislike Jake but he probably cracks harder than anyone Nate has ever fought, he most likely has above average MW MMA power. If he lands like that in 4oz gloves and with no counts Nate could be in a lot of trouble.

It is moronic to think Jake has above average anything in MMA, let alone power for a middleweight.

Nate mops the floor with guys who mop the floor with Jake in an MMA fight. You can't just not know BJJ.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Nate is nearly 40 years old, use your head.

He's literally never had a pro boxing match in his entire life, is a career lightweight and looked like shit in his last MMA fight. If he was 28-30 years old and took a year to transition to boxing guys his size, sure he would probably look pretty good despite lack of pro fights..

So Nate being old and a career LW is a factor for you in a boxing match but not an MMA fight? why not?

Doesnt it generally require strength, speed and athleticism to be able to take people down and keep them there? and you know...an actual motivation and commitment to doing it? we arent talking Khamzat here.

Nate mops the floor with guys who mop the floor with Jake in an MMA fight.

Styles make fights.

It is moronic to think Jake has above average anything in MMA, let alone power for a middleweight.

Why is it moronic to think a roided up athletic 26 year old who has trained specifically for boxing for 5-6 years cant punch harder than most MWs?

Didnt he put Woodley straight to sleep, drop Nate, flatline Askren, drop Anderson, all in boxing gloves? how many people do that to those guys in 4oz gloves?

 

[rjmbrd]

So Nate being old and a career LW is a factor for you in a boxing match but not an MMA fight? why not?

Lets apply some common sense here.

Nate vs other world class MMA fighters, who fight at the highest level - Yes
Nate vs someone who's never fought MMA in their life - No

Its like asking if someone who is an aging world class swimmer should do poorly against someone thats never been in a pool because they can no longer compete with elite competition.

FFS